India be Docked of test status

Its so sad and depressing to see an Indian side collapse like seven pins on their own soil, if I am right R Ashwin holds better average than most India current batsman and certainly a better average than almost every current batsman in last 2 years. To the joke they say India has more talented youngsters [relating to batting] in the world than any other team, so if the talented youngsters don't wanna take the game seriously there is certainly something wrong with the management.

I certainly see something wrong with the management, as there is no crowd in most test venues [which use to be rarity] , I remember many times I traveled to India and could never get a ticked for even for a single day of a test, but now not even die-hard fans are turning up.

There is saying never kill the golden goose, I guess thats what they did with all the IPL and its controversies, cricket just recovered from match fixing controversy era, and now T20 era is killing Cricket, seriously T20 is no cricket and fans coming to venue just for fun like a movie rather than enjoying the actual taste of cricket. IPL making sure these cricketers doesn't have to work hard more than a month to make money for the life time and hence all these failures in Test Cricket.

Its time India be docked of test status and should be made to do hard work to get it back, India never had great results in Test format but we fans always had the pleasure of watching our hero's giving their best for the nation, I don't get that satisfaction anymore, I see the current test side are so bored of playing for 5 consecutive days let alone playing the game with passion. Thanks BCCI for killing the golden goose of India by their improper management.

I am an Indian Cricket fan, I don't mind India losing matches but certainly don't like this spineless performance.

While the sentiment is understandable and one I share in parts, this has to be an overreaction.
But there have to be changes in terms of players and management.
Don't expect the BCCI start to accept that something has gone wrong and it has to be reviewed. So no major analysis like England did after the 5-0 loss in 06-7 or what Australia did after the last ashes.

Docked of Test status? There's knee jerking and there's this.

Invisible, understandable feelings, think of it this way, the only way is up.

We've all been there! Windies pale shadow of former greatness...Bangladesh should be deprived of test status...Zimbambe shouldnt be a test nation ...Australia lost the plot after period of greatness....SA chokers...Pakistan (enough said)..England a complete joke for many years with vast numbers of players picked for test or two then dumped.

And so on. But does need BCCI to recognise something is wrong.

ShankyCricket wrote:Docked of Test status? There's knee jerking and there's this.

Well looks like Knee Jerk reaction, but its time India be demoted in Test status and be allowed to play alongside associate nations and should earn their spot back, that way Cricket could live longer, other wise with no body from management, to players to fans showing interest in Test cricket whats the real point in being a test playing nation?

Test Cricket is dying in W.Indies, Sri Lanka, India, Pakistan, NZ, for the moment it susrvives only in SA,Aus and to some extent England.

No mate, you are over-reacting slightly and feeling a little frustrated with this last Test match.... which is understandable given the huge expectations.

India is a mighty Test nation with the most difficult task of having to pick 11 or so players from massive a talent pool.

You've gotta keep the faith even though there are obvious issues to do with selections, crowds being down (like all countries have) and apparent 'lack of interest' in the game at the highest level.

We fans are all the same really.
As soon as our teams do well.... tens/hundreds of thousands of 'fans' (10 of millions in India's / Pakistan's case) will be back as if nothing had happened. When things aren't going so well it's only natural we all tend to go back into our shell a bit and start venting our frustrations.

Hang in there!

Can you give Test status to us please?

dont feel so down. England is probally thebest test team out there.. SA offcourse are deserved of no.1. But there isnt really anything in it. You cant allways be the best in sport!

You showed what you can do in the first test. However you have the same problem the UK rugby and football teams have. This sport is so important to you and you have such a talent pool as line breaker says- but at the same time due to its massive success domestically and with t20.. this probally is affecting you. Its a sympton of the sports success in a way..

But you need to somehow prioritise the bowling. That weakness is being shown up now that your best batsmen are getting older and cant get you out of the hole..

mystiroakey wrote:dont feel so down. England is probally thebest test team out there.. SA offcourse are deserved of no.1. But there isnt really anything in it...... Except for the two consecutive series defeats in England

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Fixed that for ya.

SA havent beaten england at home for the last two either

Well you could go back pre isolation if you'd like, England were much better than us then.

However with the current squad of the last 3 test series (5 years) SA won 5 tests, England won 2 tests and there were 4 draws.

Two series wins and a draw for SA, which in my book doesn't suggest England is currently the best team out there.

Just my take on it.

you won the last 2 where there were underlying problems in the camp.. thats all..

thats my take on it..

but i will admit your rightly no.1 in the world- the rankings are the rankings and you beat the no.1 away. So fair play..

But at this present time I would put my money where my mouth is and back england v yours tommorow

Not sure why you need any other proof than the series just completed.

errr..

I suppose Eng are better than NZ in rugby then

mystiroakey wrote:errr..

I suppose Eng are better than NZ in rugby then

They're certainly better than India.

What the England rugby team would beat India in cricket..!!

Well they are goiong through a rough patch without a doubt, but I don't think the BCCI will sit on their laurels, perhaps it is time to wring the changes that may have been overdue.

When a team that has performed so admirably at home get beaten so comprehensively things usually change, and I reckon it will happen with India after this summer.

Having said that, England has been clinical.

Until the BCCI realise that they themselves are part of the problem, it will be an uphill struggle for India.

They had that brief spell of success and it went to their heads, but it was not down to them.

I think its more basic than that.

Celarly india prides batting. But never bowling or fielding

You can't get a way with being exeptional at one half of the game anymore..

You can offcourse in ODI's but not in test match

Aye, but until the Indian mentality towards fielding changes, which has to come from the top, not much will change in that department.

At the moment, none of the departments, batting, bowling or fielding are really working for India against top sides. Jadeja's inclusion if it happens for the next match, should improve the ground fielding a little bit. He would also provide the captain with a propper 5th bowler and a better 3rd spinner than the dropped former champion or the reserve picked in his place.

fielding can clearly be fixed- alot of fitness and alot of practise and any team can get decent.

Panesar as got better over the years, but will never be a good fielder, likewise Patel.

Unless you can replace the talent with talent and better fielders in the Indian team with a fielding mentality, it will not change.

But i agree, they should emphasize the fitness more, which former Indian greats have said, was never a big part of practice.

Never mind, the Indian team and the BCCI, the slug-athon is nearly upon us and these overrated and overpaid so-called stars can earn big $$$$$ for not much effort.

I could say something about KP, but i won't I don't want to stir the hornets nest up again, especially with the likes of the fan missing in action. Strange that

Yeah, where has he gone?

Indeed been missing for a while.

In response to the OP - definitely a bit of knee-jerking going on there.

Most sports are cyclical in nature and teams / countries spend time at the top, before players retire, the squad has to be shaken up and a period of rebuilding follows, while the new-look team develops into a cohesive unit.

Its also quite normal for a bit of trial and error to be involved, while you're looking for new players to fill the boots of the outgoing ones.

Speaking of retirements, does anyone think its time Tendulkar retired from Test cricket and gave some of the emerging talent a chance to shine?

Is their test form much worse than England getting pastied in the UAE, struggling against Sri Lanka and the Windies they getting utterly humped by South Africa and India in the first test of this tour?
India are being beaten by good teams, if it happens against a mid ranking one, then panic.

There are things that need to change though, and a big one is the attitude of senior players toward training and professionalism.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Is their test form much worse than England getting pastied in the UAE, struggling against Sri Lanka and the Windies they getting utterly humped by South Africa and India in the first test of this tour?
India are being beaten by good teams, if it happens against a mid ranking one, then panic.

There are things that need to change though, and a big one is the attitude of senior players toward training and professionalism.

Very much agreed.