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Post by propdavid_london Thu 11 Aug 2011, 11:58 am

Just a quick question - Who is showing the WC in the UK?

Is it SKY or BBC or ESPN?

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Post by MBTGOG Thu 11 Aug 2011, 11:59 am

ITV.


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Post by propdavid_london Thu 11 Aug 2011, 12:02 pm

MBTGOG - That is fanstastic news, thanks. My local pub doesnt have SKY, now all i need to do is convince him to open early!

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Post by MBTGOG Thu 11 Aug 2011, 12:05 pm

That might be the tougher aspect to it.


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Post by screamingaddabs Thu 11 Aug 2011, 12:08 pm

The bad side is that their coverage last time I felt was awful.

Good that it's terrestrial though Very Happy Very Happy
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Post by propdavid_london Thu 11 Aug 2011, 12:15 pm

Yes - their coverage of the Aviva highlights leaves a lot to be desired.

Does that mean that we are to have WC commentary from Bayfield and Craig Doyle - Nice guys but think I would rather have someone else.

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Post by Guest Thu 11 Aug 2011, 12:18 pm

Craig Doyle is awful. I really hope he isn't involved. He should stick to adverts and travel progs.

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Post by Thomond Thu 11 Aug 2011, 12:33 pm

They got the Sky boys last time so we might get to listen to Stuart Barnes' nuggets of wisdom.


They are mostly about Courtney Lawes though.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 11 Aug 2011, 12:38 pm

I like Stuart Barnes. I do not like Miles Harrison.

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Post by MBTGOG Thu 11 Aug 2011, 12:41 pm

I like Craig Doyle and Martin Bayfield actually. Bayfield is good as an in the field reporter so would be wasted in the studio.

I hope Miles Harrison isn't brought in. I like John Taylor and hope they go with him. What I wouldn't be surprised about is if some of the ESPN people are brought in, like Nick Mullins and Ben Kay.


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Post by Adam D Thu 11 Aug 2011, 12:43 pm

I went to the ITV launch at the last WC.

I got talking to quite a few big names that night - Jonah, Campese, Woodward.

Cracking night thanks to Barclays!

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 11 Aug 2011, 12:44 pm

John Taylor's good. Nigel Starmer-Smith's always been a good commentator, but his tendency to develop an Irish accent when pronouncing Irish players' names is a bit cringe-making.

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Post by propdavid_london Thu 11 Aug 2011, 12:46 pm

MBTGOG - Not Austin Healy then? He could be garunteed to say something controversial.

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Post by MBTGOG Thu 11 Aug 2011, 12:47 pm

propdavid_london wrote:MBTGOG - Not Austin Healy then? He could be garunteed to say something controversial.

Would they want people to say something controversial? I found watching English sports TV, there is an awful lot of agreement.


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Post by propdavid_london Thu 11 Aug 2011, 12:56 pm

BBC - Moore and Butler tend to disagree!

On the whole there tends to be alot of agreement (re:SKY pannel of Barnes-Morris-Greenwood).

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Post by Thomond Thu 11 Aug 2011, 12:58 pm

It's a lot different to Irish sports coverage where we have guys who don't really offer anything inciteful but are there to cause debate i.e. George Hook and Eamon Dunphy.

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Post by MBTGOG Thu 11 Aug 2011, 1:02 pm

Thomond wrote:It's a lot different to Irish sports coverage where we have guys who don't really offer anything inciteful but are there to cause debate i.e. George Hook and Eamon Dunphy.

Much more entertaining though.


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Post by Thomond Thu 11 Aug 2011, 1:03 pm

Yeah,it's entertaining for a while it's great when they actually say something smart.

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Post by MBTGOG Thu 11 Aug 2011, 1:05 pm

Thomond wrote:Yeah,it's entertaining for a while it's great when they actually say something smart.

To be fair, they do make sure there are always good points in there with people like Conor O'Shea, John Giles and Graeme Souness contributing.


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Post by Biltong Thu 11 Aug 2011, 1:29 pm

I hope we get to listen to the SA commentators, they don't sound so biased as some do.
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Post by MBTGOG Thu 11 Aug 2011, 1:30 pm

biltongbek wrote:I hope we get to listen to the SA commentators, they don't sound so biased as some do.

Joke?


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Post by screamingaddabs Thu 11 Aug 2011, 1:36 pm

Apart from Bill MacClaren (what a loss!) I've never heard of any commentator getting good reviews from everyone.
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Post by MBTGOG Thu 11 Aug 2011, 1:39 pm

screamingaddabs wrote:Apart from Bill MacClaren (what a loss!) I've never heard of any commentator getting good reviews from everyone.

Certainly true.


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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu 11 Aug 2011, 1:40 pm

MBTGOG wrote:
screamingaddabs wrote:Apart from Bill MacClaren (what a loss!) I've never heard of any commentator getting good reviews from everyone.

Certainly true.


Yep. Commentators may be even less popular than referees Wink
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Post by TheGreyGhost Thu 11 Aug 2011, 1:43 pm

I love JD's specialist punditry when he's asked to "talk us through" a try.

His critical eye normally leads to a clinical analysis that sounds something like this:

"He gets the ball there, goes around the man there, pass and out there, through there, in out, back around and on and there he's gone and try. Simple."

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Post by Biltong Thu 11 Aug 2011, 1:44 pm

MBTGOG wrote:
biltongbek wrote:I hope we get to listen to the SA commentators, they don't sound so biased as some do.

Joke?


I am quite serious, listen to Chick Henderson you will hear what i mean.
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Post by MBTGOG Thu 11 Aug 2011, 1:46 pm

Is Chick Henderson an in-studio analyst or game commentator? The match commentators are the only ones I hear and well.......


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Post by Biltong Thu 11 Aug 2011, 1:48 pm

He is a commentator, as old as the mountains, but very good.
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Post by MBTGOG Thu 11 Aug 2011, 1:50 pm

All I know is that the commentators are very quiet when the opposition score, whether it be an international team or a Super Rugby side from abroad yet get very excited when South Africans score.


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Post by Biltong Thu 11 Aug 2011, 1:52 pm

MBTGOG wrote:All I know is that the commentators are very quiet when the opposition score, whether it be an international team or a Super Rugby side from abroad yet get very excited when South Africans score.


Not Chick Henderson, he gets excited about anything, the difference for me especially when comparing the Ozzie trio ( they are seriously biased), Henderson doesn't talk up the Boks when they play, he is respectfull to the opposition.
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Post by Guest Thu 11 Aug 2011, 1:55 pm

I like the Aussie commentators. There are a couple that are very, very biased but quite funny with it.

They remind me of the blokes off the Fosters 'Good Call' adverts.

Somehow I find it difficult to be offended by Aussie bias and over-enthusiasm.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 11 Aug 2011, 2:15 pm

TheGreyGhost wrote:I love JD's specialist punditry when he's asked to "talk us through" a try.

His critical eye normally leads to a clinical analysis that sounds something like this:

"He gets the ball there, goes around the man there, pass and out there, through there, in out, back around and on and there he's gone and try. Simple."

Laugh You forgot to mention the dog leg defence!

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 11 Aug 2011, 2:18 pm

SafeAsMilk, I can't stand the Australian commentary set-up. There's too many of them and they talk over each other.

In general, I preferred it when the commentator commentated and the co-commentator added his bit during breaks in play.

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Post by Totallybiasedscarlet Thu 11 Aug 2011, 2:30 pm

Thomond wrote:They got the Sky boys last time so we might get to listen to Stuart Barnes' nuggets of wisdom.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤦
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Post by andy powells minder Thu 11 Aug 2011, 2:36 pm

Rick O'Shea is the dogs on BBC2 Wales, more comedy than commentating!

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Post by Totallybiasedscarlet Thu 11 Aug 2011, 2:56 pm

I'd have nothing against Brian Moore - he's very fair and passionate. Much as I used to hate his chopsy little mouth when he played, nowdays I've got a lot of time for him. Honest and down to earth. Makes a good double act with Eddie Butler Smile
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 11 Aug 2011, 2:58 pm

andy powells minder wrote:Rick O'Shea is the dogs on BBC2 Wales, more comedy than commentating!

I have to disagree. Rick O'Shea is a waste of license fee payers' money.

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Post by Totallybiasedscarlet Thu 11 Aug 2011, 3:01 pm

luckless_pedestrian wrote:
andy powells minder wrote:Rick O'Shea is the dogs on BBC2 Wales, more comedy than commentating!

I have to disagree. Rick O'Shea is a waste of license fee payers' money.

BOOOO! thumbsdown
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PS: Sorry, I like Rick - he's a good laugh Smile
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Post by cabbagesandbrussels Thu 11 Aug 2011, 3:04 pm

This is confirmed:

Commentators: Nick Mullins, Simon Ward, Martin Gillingham, Bob Symonds

Co-Commentators: Alan Quinlan, Scott Hastings, Phil Vickery, Andy Gomarsall

Pundits: Sean Fitzpatrick, Michael Lynagh, Francois Pienaar, Lawrence Dallaglio, Gareth Thomas, Thom Evans.

Presenters: Steve Rider, Martin Bayfield, Craig Doyle


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Post by Thomond Thu 11 Aug 2011, 3:05 pm

Surprised they goy Quinny he has a thick enough accent. Good list of pundits. Where did you get the list?

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Post by MBTGOG Thu 11 Aug 2011, 3:06 pm

Outside of Nick Mullins, I am not a fan of any of those commentators.


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Post by screamingaddabs Thu 11 Aug 2011, 3:06 pm

I think the thing that made Bill MCClaren great was that he simply told you what was going on with some wonderful similies and metaphors thrown in. He rarely gave speculation any air time. He was also the least biased person to have walked the Earth!

Most commentators now tend to spend a lot of their time giving their own ill informed opinions about stuff whilst getting the facts about what is going on wrong. Some are better than others but they're all flawed.
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Post by cabbagesandbrussels Thu 11 Aug 2011, 3:07 pm

Thomond, I got it from:

http://www.therugbyblog.co.uk/itv-announce-team-for-rugby-world-cup-2011

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Post by Totallybiasedscarlet Thu 11 Aug 2011, 3:16 pm

That's not too bad Smile At least Daaaaaooowie Morris won't make me vomit with his "I'm english honest guv, apples and pears, ENGLAND, POWER, DOMINATION" routine.

By the way Dewi, it's an 'e' in your name - do you know how 'e' is pronounced. It's not a cross between an 'o' and an 'a' - it's an 'e' - Putting a silly accent on the 'e' doesn't make you any more english alright Dai!
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 11 Aug 2011, 3:21 pm

Bob Symonds? Oh dear!

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Post by MBTGOG Thu 11 Aug 2011, 3:25 pm

I wonder who will be the co-commentator with Nick Mullins? I'm guessing it will be Gomorsall but can't say for certain.


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Post by Thomond Thu 11 Aug 2011, 3:27 pm

Presume the games will be spread over the 4 ITVs rather than the one?

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Post by TheGreyGhost Thu 11 Aug 2011, 3:28 pm

cabbagesandbrussels wrote:This is confirmed:
Pundits: Sean Fitzpatrick, Michael Lynagh, Francois Pienaar, Lawrence Dallaglio, Gareth Thomas, Thom Evans.

One of these things, does not belong here...

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Post by MBTGOG Thu 11 Aug 2011, 3:30 pm

Thomond wrote:Presume the games will be spread over the 4 ITVs rather than the one?

ITV and ITV4. Just those two I believe.


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Post by Thomond Thu 11 Aug 2011, 3:34 pm

I have them anyway so it's grand,don't know how many I will see with the time difference although I believe the earliest the majority of games kick off is half 6 which isn't too bad. Of course there are some at half 3 and half 4.

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