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Post by Shifty Sat 13 Aug 2011, 7:12 pm

First topic message reminder :

Download the match here.
http://rugby.opticon.hu/meccsek/110813VBElokesz-Franciao-Irorsz.avi

France withstood an Irish fightback to secure a deserved World Cup warm-up victory in Bordeaux on Saturday night.

The French dominated the first half and Vincent Clerc's try and two Dimitri Yachvili penalties helped the hosts to a 13-3 lead at the break.

Ireland hit back early in the second half and three penalties from Ronan O'Gara took them to within a point.

O'Gara missed with another penalty attempt before Yachvili fired over two penalties to ensure a French victory.

France were superior from the start in every aspect of the game as the Irish wilted in the heat and high humidity.

Yachvili fired over a fourth minute penalty as the hosts made their early pressure count although Damien Traille sliced a drop-goal attempt wide from close range.

The French went over for the only try on 17 minutes, Clerc collecting an excellent lay-off from Alexis Pailsson before darting over.

Yachvilli added the extras and the scrum-half went to convert an impressive second penalty from wide.

Ronan O'Gara kicks over a second-half penalty against France
A lethargic Ireland failed to muster any attacking threat and continually gifting possession to the French.

At least the Irish finished the first half on a high thanks to an O'Gara penalty after what was a rare venture into the opposition half.

Ireland were a transformed team at the restart, with a new-found urgency in their play and stronger in the tackle.

For the first time Ireland were pushing the French back and the introduction of Munster lock Paul O'Connell provided added impetus.

The pressure resulted in a succession of Irish penalties, with O'Gara impressively coverting three before missing out with a fourth.

Ireland were now just a point adrift but the French regained control thanks to two Yachvili penalties.

The Irish pressed in the final minutes but squandered a five-metre scrum and a line-out close to the French line.

The sides meet again at the Aviva Stadium in Dublin next weekend in another World Cup warm-up game.

France: Traille, Clerc, Marty, Mermoz, Palisson, Trinh-Duc, Yachvili, Marconnet, Szarzewski, Ducalcon, Pierre, Millo-Chluski, Dusautoir, Harinordoquy, Lakafia.

Replacements: Medard for Traille (64), Skrela for Mermoz (26), Parra for Yachvili (77), Poux for Marconnet (54), Guirado for Szarzewski (54), Nallet for Millo-Chluski (58), Bonnaire for Harinordoquy (64).

Ireland: Kearney, Trimble, Earls, P. Wallace, Fitzgerald, O'Gara, Reddan, Healy, Best, Ross, O'Callaghan, Cullen, Ryan, O'Brien, Leamy.

Replacements: Jones for Kearney (46), McFadden for Trimble (67), Murray for Reddan (60), Flannery for Best (60). Not used: Buckley, Heaslip.

Referee: Dave Pearson (RFU)


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Post by C'mon You Irish Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:29 pm

Good kick Rog u and POC the only Munster boys i trust on this team

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Post by Standulstermen Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:30 pm

I hope to god we dont have walsh at the RWC. He is almost abdicating all authority at the breakdown. France dont need him though they have looked very sharp.

Trimble has looked lively as has Paddy but the lineout has been disastrous. Need to see POC and Flannery i think. Fitz hasnt furthered his cause but the most frustrating thing is out attack looking poor save for a SOB break and a couple of nice touches from Paddy. I fear we have retained Gaffney 1 year too long. The tackling is fierce but Walsh is letting prone players crawl forward and protect the tackled player. Poor poor reffing

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Post by Shifty Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:31 pm

Fell free to Pm me for a stream to this game if you cant watch it.
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Post by Notch Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:32 pm

Half-time thoughts for Ireland

The Good; Sean O'Brien, Paddy Wallace, Eoin Reddan, Andrew Trimble all good individual performances- not really gelling as a team at all at this stage.

The Bad; Luke Fitzgerald, Rory Best, Leo Cullen, the lineout, the intensity, protection of the ball at the breakdown. Inability to amtch the pace and accuracy France are outting on the game and making lots of errors.

The Ugly; getting any kind of ball from the lineout.


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Post by Draigoch Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:32 pm

'Nobody cares about the result' - Who is this clown?

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Post by Standulstermen Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:34 pm

Also if this doesnt show why Ferris should be a shoo in at 6 im not sure what does. Our retention is so poor and compare it with France who 9/10 times have 3 or 4 guys ready to clearout

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Post by Notch Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:34 pm

Draigoch wrote:'Nobody cares about the result' - Who is this clown?

He's goes by many names; Ireland's Shame, the cantankerous clown, the empty vessel, the moron of the media set...

But you can call him George Hook. And then thank god for the BBC. Because every Six Nations I watch RTE and switch to BBC at halftime.
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Post by C'mon You Irish Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:37 pm

I have to say we did well to only be 10 points down at the half

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Post by Draigoch Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:37 pm

aha, Ireland's Steven Jones.

Also, I don't want to take the urine out of your national TV but I think it's hilarious how it's presented with the seriousness of a panorama episode.

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Post by Shifty Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:38 pm

Punditery on the Italy V Japan game is much better, 2 Italians sitting down. With gorgeous Italian hostess standing up in a gold mini skirt. Dominguez is just about managing to get words out, but his eyes keep glancing down at her boobs, which he's eye level with!
Long angle lens going floor level to so your looking up (her skirt).
no wonder Italian rugby is growing so fast, I always wondered what they saw in the sport!


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Post by Cari Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:39 pm

I actually watch a fair bit of Irish telly and I like it. BUT I'd rather John Inverdale than this aul git. Sounds like a right 2at.

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Post by Notch Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:39 pm

Draigoch wrote:aha, Ireland's Steven Jones.

Also, I don't want to take the urine out of your national TV but I think it's hilarious how it's presented with the seriousness of a panorama episode.

Especially when their main pundit is dead from the neck up.
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Post by Cari Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:41 pm

AlynDavies wrote:Punditery on the Italy V Japan game is much better, 2 Italians sitting down. With gorgeous Italian host standing up in a gold mini skirt. Dominguez is just about managing to get words out, but his eyes keep glancing down at her boobs, which he's eye level with!
Long angle lens going floor level to so your looking up (her skirt).
no wonder Italian rugby is growing so fast, I always wondered what they saw in the sport!

You wait until David Wallace retires, he'll replace these old gits, and wear next to nothing just to get the viewers in, no one will give a sheet what he's on about. They'll just stare.... heart

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Post by eirebilly Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:43 pm

Its going to be tough to get back in the game but hopefully Ireland do. Need to score first though
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Post by Draigoch Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:43 pm

Um, Alyn - fancy PMing me a link for the Italy match mate?

For the rugby...obviously..

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Post by Notch Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:44 pm

Cari, I don't know if you've noticed but most rugby fans are male Smile
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Post by Shifty Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:44 pm

Cari wrote:You wait until David Wallace retires, he'll replace these old gits, and wear next to nothing just to get the viewers in, no one will give a sheet what he's on about. They'll just stare.... heart

Nice fantasy but most forwards end up as coaches Wink
He will be a fat, balding old man with a beer belly, dressed up in lots of clothes to keep him warm Wink

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Post by Shifty Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:45 pm

Draigoch wrote:Um, Alyn - fancy PMing me a link for the Italy match mate?

For the rugby...obviously..

Check your inbox mate, though the game has restarted though, but I'm sure you can see more of her after.
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Post by C'mon You Irish Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:46 pm

Trimble is a beast i want him in the centre come world cup

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Post by Cari Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:46 pm

Notch wrote:Cari, I don't know if you've noticed but most rugby fans are male Smile

Wally can turn anyone Notch! Very Happy

Oh cack...this isn't a good start...

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Post by eirebilly Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:47 pm

A bit brighter from Ireland but still not matching France's aggression
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Post by Cari Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:48 pm

OH OH OH OH! Irish try coming...

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Post by Draigoch Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:49 pm

thumbsup Alyn

Better from Ireland!

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Post by Shifty Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:49 pm

Cari wrote:OH OH OH OH! Irish try coming...


40 Minutes of Irish players should be your limit!
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Post by sean.c Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:50 pm

AlynDavies wrote:
Cari wrote:You wait until David Wallace retires, he'll replace these old gits, and wear next to nothing just to get the viewers in, no one will give a sheet what he's on about. They'll just stare.... heart

Nice fantasy but most forwards end up as coaches Wink
He will be a fat, balding old man with a beer belly, dressed up in lots of clothes to keep him warm Wink

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Well you never know Alyn. Have you not heard of Paul 'my brother is David' Wallace?

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Post by Cari Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:50 pm

Some sloppy passes, but much better from Ireland.

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Post by Notch Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:51 pm

A bit premature there, Cari. But we've already had a thread like that Smile

One score game now though. Better play but we're still not getting those offloads to hand.
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Post by eirebilly Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:51 pm

Yes gwaaan Ronan
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Post by Standulstermen Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:52 pm

Trimble setting down a marker. SOB looking dangerous again. Good start to the 2nd half

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Post by Cari Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:52 pm

Alyn - ha I got a bit excited, I thought Chilli was going to go all the way...

ROG looks like a tomato. He's boiling!

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Post by C'mon You Irish Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:52 pm

Wow we are avoiding that ball like it is an STD

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Post by Standulstermen Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:53 pm

Trimble setting down a marker. SOB looking dangerous again. Good start to the 2nd half

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Post by Shifty Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:53 pm

Yup I think France have burned themselves out.
Ireland on the come back now.
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Post by C'mon You Irish Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:54 pm

Being serious now Trimble has to replace Darcy in the centre

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Post by Cari Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:55 pm

POC on - look out!

Blondie's having a good game, but he's not allowed to replace Tommy for much longer... raspberry

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Post by eirebilly Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:56 pm

The small things are starting to go Irelands way Very Happy
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Post by C'mon You Irish Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:56 pm

Kearney having a solid game

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Post by eirebilly Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:56 pm

Good man Ronan.
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Post by Cari Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:57 pm

YO!!! Not far behind now....

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Post by Notch Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:57 pm

Cari wrote:POC on - look out!

Blondie's having a good game, but he's not allowed to replace Tommy for much longer... raspberry

What about Blondie on the left and Tommy on the right? Not too bad..?
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Post by Shifty Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:58 pm

Ireland are chipping away, the crowd is quiet and French heads are starting to drop. France are there for the taking now.

You can see O'Gara nicking this with a drop goal.


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Post by Cari Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:59 pm

Notch wrote:
What about Blondie on the left and Tommy on the right? Not too bad..?

I'm happy with that Notch...I meant, he can't stay in the no.14 shirt Wink

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Post by eirebilly Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:59 pm

What happened to Irelands lineout? It was once a thing of beauty
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Post by C'mon You Irish Sat 13 Aug 2011, 8:59 pm

Flip me well played ROG nerves of steel

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Post by C'mon You Irish Sat 13 Aug 2011, 9:00 pm

Without POC our lineout is so Poopie

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Post by Cari Sat 13 Aug 2011, 9:00 pm

eirebilly wrote:What happened to Irelands lineout? It was once a thing of beauty

Do you think they'll bring Flannery on?

oh dear...poor scrum there.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 13 Aug 2011, 9:01 pm

Another chance here Very Happy
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Post by eirebilly Sat 13 Aug 2011, 9:01 pm

Cari wrote:
eirebilly wrote:What happened to Irelands lineout? It was once a thing of beauty

Do you think they'll bring Flannery on?

oh dear...poor scrum there.

I hope so Very Happy
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Post by Standulstermen Sat 13 Aug 2011, 9:01 pm

In terms of reffing it is most definately a game of 2 halves

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Post by Shifty Sat 13 Aug 2011, 9:02 pm

eirebilly wrote:What happened to Irelands lineout? It was once a thing of beauty

Chopping and changing players doesn't help and O'Connor does the calls and takes charge most of the time.
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