Sky Sports West Indies T20 discussion at Somerset Vs Notts

by hodge Mon 15 Aug 2011, 5:25 pm

Presenters talking about who they would play in the T20's as England are likely to go with more youngsters than normal:

Names chucked up:

Alex Hales
Jos Buttler
Ben Stokes
James Taylor
Danny Briggs
Johnny Bairstow

Think their side looked something like:

1) Craig Kieswetter (W)
2) Alex Hales
3) James Taylor
4) Ben Stokes
5) Johnny Bairstow
6) Samit Patel
7) Chris Woakes
8) Tim Bresnan
9) Stuart Broad (C)
10) Danny Briggs
11) Jade Dernbach

So If England are to go with a younger side what would yours be?

by JDizzle Mon 15 Aug 2011, 5:29 pm

I agree with Knight and Butcher that we don't want to completely ditch the current side and play a younger squad, we should keep the backbone of our team the same. My side would look something like:

Hales
Kieswetter
Pietersen
Taylor
Stokes
Morgan
Patel
Bresnan
Broad
Dernbach
Briggs

by Makrish Mon 15 Aug 2011, 5:33 pm

I don't think I'd have Woakes in there - he's more a line and length bowler, and seems to struggle in one-day matches. I'd prefer to see someone like Meaker in instead of him.

by Carrotdude Mon 15 Aug 2011, 7:14 pm

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Meaker isn't ready yet. Also Bopara? Anyone else please! I think Hales is a shoe in and I would like to keep as much of the backbone of the Test side as possible to help intigrate the newbies. Apart from Bopara I quite like the look of JDizzle's team above but I'd keep Swann in unless they feel he needs a break.

by hodge Mon 15 Aug 2011, 7:20 pm

I would go with:

1) Kieswetter (W)
2) Hales
3) Bell
4) Taylor
5) Hildreth
6) Morgan
7) Woakes
8) Bresnan
9) Broad (C)
10) Briggs (give Swann a break before Pakistan in UAE)
11) Dernbach

think Jack Brooks would make my squad as well

by JDizzle Mon 15 Aug 2011, 7:57 pm

Carrotdude, you just reminded me with your point about Bopara that I was missing someone from my side! I meant to include Morgan for Bopara but forgot. Doh

So just flick Mogs in for Ravi and that is my side.

by Guest Mon 15 Aug 2011, 8:05 pm

morgan has to be in the side

by Guest Mon 15 Aug 2011, 8:07 pm

or kp into open

by Liam_Main Mon 15 Aug 2011, 8:36 pm

England will still need 2 or 3 experienced players in there squad we can't have a team of Under 25s

My team-

1) Craig Kieswetter (WK)
2) Alex Hales
3) Kevin Pietersen
4) James Taylor
5) Eoin Morgan
6) Ben Stokes
7) Samit Patel
8) Tim Bresnan
9) Stuart Broad (C)
10) Jade Dernbach
11) Danny Briggs

by Liam_Main Mon 15 Aug 2011, 8:51 pm

Adil Rashid and Jonny Bairstow in the squad aswell.

by Carrotdude Mon 15 Aug 2011, 9:45 pm

I'd prefer Rashid to Briggs if Swann doesn't play.

by Liam_Main Mon 15 Aug 2011, 9:49 pm

Rashid being a leg-spinner could tempt the selectors but based on current form they should go with Briggs.

by m@tt Mon 15 Aug 2011, 10:21 pm

Maybe...

01 Kieswetter (wk)
02 Hales
03 Taylor
04 Morgan (vc)
05 Stokes
06 Buttler
07 Patel
08 Shahzad or Woakes
09 Broad (c)
10 Dernbach
11 Briggs

Captain and vice-captain stay for experience, Kieswetter has been around a while too. 5 debutants. Another option is to keep Lumb (with a view to the sub-continent where the next T20 WC will be played) and play Hales at 3, as T20 is Taylor's weakest format.

Not sure about #8. Shahzad's form has been poor this year whilst Woakes is more suited to the longer format. But I'd go with one of them as they are good prospects.

by Liam_Main Mon 15 Aug 2011, 10:24 pm

m@tt wrote:Maybe...

01 Kieswetter (wk)
02 Hales
03 Taylor
04 Morgan (vc)
05 Stokes
06 Buttler
07 Patel
08 Shahzad or Woakes
09 Broad (c)
10 Dernbach
11 Briggs

Captain and vice-captain stay for experience, Kieswetter has been around a while too. 5 debutants. Another option is to keep Lumb (with a view to the sub-continent where the next T20 WC will be played) and play Hales at 3, as T20 is Taylor's weakest format.

Not sure about #8. Shahzad's form has been poor this year whilst Woakes is more suited to the longer format. But I'd go with one of them as they are good prospects.

Bresnan over Shahzad/Woakes surely?

by GG Mon 15 Aug 2011, 10:40 pm

My team:

Kieswetter (w)
Hales
Pietersen
Morgan
Stokes
Patel
Buttler
Broad (c)
Meaker
Dernbach
Briggs

Basically, play the strongest side available apart from the bowlers who will have played the test/odi series as they could use some rest. Obviously excluding Broad as he needs all the captaincy experience he can get.

by m@tt Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:00 pm

Liam_Main wrote:
m@tt wrote:Maybe...

01 Kieswetter (wk) / 02 Hales / 03 Taylor / 04 Morgan (vc) / 05 Stokes / 06 Buttler / 07 Patel / 08 Shahzad or Woakes / 09 Broad (c) / 10 Dernbach / 11 Briggs

Captain and vice-captain stay for experience, Kieswetter has been around a while too. 5 debutants. Another option is to keep Lumb (with a view to the sub-continent where the next T20 WC will be played) and play Hales at 3, as T20 is Taylor's weakest format.

Not sure about #8. Shahzad's form has been poor this year whilst Woakes is more suited to the longer format. But I'd go with one of them as they are good prospects.

Bresnan over Shahzad/Woakes surely?

With the exception of the captain and vice-captain, I'd like to see players who play Tests + ODIs + T20Is rested, so that includes Bresnan as well as Pietersen, Swann and Bell.

by ShankyCricket Tue 16 Aug 2011, 5:47 am

At the moment,

This would be my Team for the T20 WC

Alex Hales
Craig Kieswetter
Kevin Pietersen
Eoin Morgan(vc)
Ben Stokes
Samit Patel
Jos Buttler
Tim Bresnan
Graeme Swann
Stuart Broad(c)
Danny Briggs

Reserves

Jade Dernbach
Steven Finn(Woakes is a poor T20 bowler IMO)
James Taylor
Jonny Bairstow

For the series against WI I would rest KP,Bresnan and Swanny thus bringing in Taylor,Dernbach and Finny into the starting XI.

What do you guys think?
Plz comment

by ShankyCricket Tue 16 Aug 2011, 5:50 am

Matt

Would you really pick Bell for ODIs and T20Is

by ShankyCricket Tue 16 Aug 2011, 6:15 am

So for the WI series I would go with

Alex Hales
Craig Kieswetter(wk)
James Taylor
Eoin Morgan
Ben Stokes
Samit Patel
Jos Buttler
Stuart Broad(c)
Danny Briggs
Steven Finn
Jade Dernbach

Reserves

Jonny Bairstow
Stuart Meaker

I think the selectors will go with

Alex Hales
Craig Kieswetter(wk)
Ravi Bopara
James Taylor
Ben Stokes
Samit Patel
Luke Wright
Stuart Broad(c)
Danny Briggs
Steven Finn
Jade Dernbach

Reserves

Chris Woakes
Jonny Bairstow

by m@tt Tue 16 Aug 2011, 7:34 am

shankythebiggestengfan wrote:Matt

Would you really pick Bell for ODIs and T20Is

No, but as a player who has played every ODI this year and 2/3 T20s, he definitely shouldn't play the WI T20.

by ShankyCricket Tue 16 Aug 2011, 8:41 am

m@tt wrote:
shankythebiggestengfan wrote:Matt

Would you really pick Bell for ODIs and T20Is

No, but as a player who has played every ODI this year and 2/3 T20s, he definitely shouldn't play the WI T20.

I wouldnt pick him at all for any ODI or T20.He should be dropped from the shorter formats.

by Gregers Tue 16 Aug 2011, 9:15 pm

I'd go with something (based on youth) like:

1) Steve Davies (wk)
2) Alex Hales
3) Jason Roy
4) James Vince
5) James Taylor
6) Samit Patel
7) Chris Woakes/Jos Buttler
8) Tim Bresnan
9) Stuart Broad (C)
10) Danny Briggs
11) Jade Dernbach

by Liam_Main Tue 16 Aug 2011, 9:16 pm

Gregers wrote:I'd go with something (based on youth) like:

1) Steve Davies (c)
2) Alex Hales
3) Jason Roy
4) James Vince
5) James Taylor
6) Samit Patel
7) Chris Woakes/Jos Buttler
8) Tim Bresnan
9) Stuart Broad (C)
10) Danny Briggs
11) Jade Dernbach

Good side, Kieswetter over Davies for me though.

by Gregers Tue 16 Aug 2011, 9:18 pm

Or maybe as above but:

6) Buttler
7) Bresnan
8) Broad (c)
9) Rashid
10) Briggs
11) Dernbach

by ianp1970 Tue 16 Aug 2011, 10:28 pm

I think we'll a side along the lines of:

Hales
Kieswetter
Taylor
Morgan
Bopara
Stokes
Patel
Bresnen
Broad
Rashid
Dernbach

Buttler
Woakes
Finn
Briggs

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