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Post by iade360 Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:12 am

If a boxer hasn't come the route of a glittering, high-profile amateur career, how much harder is it for a young pro to establish themselves on the scene and make it in the early days? I think we can all come up with a prime example of a high-profile British Olympic heavyweight boxer that struggled to make any impact as a pro, but what's your best example of a successful pro boxer who came through without any (or limited) amateur pedigree?

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Post by oxring Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:17 am

Gavin Rees. OK, not the best boxer ever to walk the earth - but still a LWW world champion and a European LW champ. Can't really find anything about his amateur career - leading me to believe he didn't have much of one. Certainly haven't heard it discussed in glowing terms of reference.
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Post by khantdrive Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:31 am

if we aren't limiting it to British fighters, Hopkins and Martinez would be good examples of fighters with little or no amateur experience.

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Post by Mr Bounce Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:32 am

Matt Skelton. Not top drawer by any means but could throw a punch or two, had a WBA world heavy shot and many people have heard of him.

Especially the police...

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:36 am

Peter Quillin is on the cusp of a World Title shot and had only 8 or 9 amateur fights.

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Post by HumanWindmill Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:45 am

Randall ' Tex ' Cobb, who fought Holmes for the heavyweight crown :

“I only had two fights as an amateur and lost both of them. Heck, I figure I didn’t have much of a future there. So I turned pro.”

Rocky Marciano didn't do much as an amateur, either.

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Post by iade360 Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:46 am

HumanWindmill wrote:Randall ' Tex ' Cobb, who fought Holmes for the heavyweight crown :

“I only had two fights as an amateur and lost both of them. Heck, I figure I didn’t have much of a future there. So I turned pro.”

Rocky Marciano didn't do much as an amateur, either.

That's a great quote!

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Post by HumanWindmill Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:49 am

He is a really funny guy, iade.

I have a collection of his on my hard drive which I've read a hundred times or more, and they still make me laugh to this day.

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Post by Valero's Conscience Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:50 am

Pretty sure Sergio Martinez went pro within 2 years of waking in to a boxing gym.

Also the recently beaten and former champ Wilfredo Vasquez Jr had no amateur experience.

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 19 Aug 2011, 12:25 pm

https://www.606v2.com/t9819-qa-with-sergio-maravilla-martinez

Martinez mentions his amateur record here. Also, at the top in the biography part I think it explains about him turning to boxing late.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sat 20 Aug 2011, 1:51 am

HumanWindmill wrote:He is a really funny guy, iade.

I have a collection of his on my hard drive which I've read a hundred times or more, and they still make me laugh to this day.

Those crazy Saturday nights, eh Windy! Wink

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Post by eddyfightfan Sat 20 Aug 2011, 7:48 am

Mr Bounce wrote:Matt Skelton. Not top drawer by any means but could throw a punch or two, had a WBA world heavy shot and many people have heard of him.

Especially the police...

he was a world champion kickboxer before boxing i think

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Post by School Project Sat 20 Aug 2011, 12:58 pm

eddyfightfan wrote:
Mr Bounce wrote:Matt Skelton. Not top drawer by any means but could throw a punch or two, had a WBA world heavy shot and many people have heard of him.

Especially the police...

he was a world champion kickboxer before boxing i think

Yeah he was.

I think Manny Pacquiao is a good shout. Barely any amateur fights (if any?). There's a fair few Mexicans who seldom fight amateur aswell.

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Post by The Galveston Giant Sat 20 Aug 2011, 1:12 pm

I seen Matt Skelton being chocked out in Pride from someone placing their forearm across his throat and pushing down. He's not an MMA fighter though so i don't think any less of him. He definately had a lot of experience in the fight game before he started boxing.
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