Welsh Squad Thread - Warburton (Capt) - Nugget OUT

by PenfroPete Mon 22 Aug - 12:11

http://www.wru.co.uk/27087.php

For those unable to open the link

WALES SQUAD - 2011 RUGBY WORLD CUP

CAPTAIN

Sam WARBURTON (CARDIFF BLUES, CAPTAIN - Cap No 1,070)

DoB: 05.10.88. 1.88m / 6'2". 16st 4lbs / 103kgs

International record: 17 caps (W 8, L 9; 5 pts - 1T)

FORWARDS

Huw BENNETT (OSPREYS - Cap No 1,017)

DoB: 11.06.83. 6'0" / 1.83m. 16st 8lbs / 105kgs

International record: 42 caps (W 20, L 21, D 1)

Ryan BEVINGTON (OSPREYS - Cap No 1,081)

DoB: 9.12.88. 6'0"/1.82m. 17st 2lb/109kgs

International record: 4 caps (W 2, L 2)

Lloyd BURNS (NEWPORT GWENT DRAGONS - Cap No 1,085)

DoB: 09.12.84. 6'0" / 1.83m. 17st 0lbs / 108kgs

International record: 3 caps (W 1, L 2)

Luke CHARTERIS (NEWPORT GWENT DRAGONS - Cap No 1,030)

DoB: 09.03.83. 6'9" / 2.06m. 19st 10lbs / 125kgs

International record: 25 caps (W 12, L 13)

Bradley DAVIES (CARDIFF BLUES - Cap No 1,065)

DoB: 09.01.87. 6'6" / 1.98m. 19st 1lbs / 121kgs

International record: 24 caps (W 10, L 13, D 1)

Toby FALETAU (NEWPORT GWENT DRAGONS - Cap No 1,082)

DoB: 12.11.90. 1.88m / 6'2". 17st 5lbs / 110kgs

International record: 3 caps (W 1, L 2)

Paul JAMES (OSPREYS - Cap No 1,021)

DoB: 13.05.82. 6'1" / 1.86m. 18st 2lbs / 115kgs

International record: 26 caps (W 10, L 15, D 1)

Gethin JENKINS (CARDIFF BLUES - Cap No 1,006)

DoB: 17.11.80. 6'2" / 1.88m. 18st 9lbs / 118kgs

International record: 76 caps (W 33, L 41, D 2; 15 pts - 3T)

Adam JONES (OSPREYS - Cap No 1,018)

DoB: 08.03.81. 6'0" / 1.83m. 18st 12lb / 120kgs

International record: 70 caps (W 32, L 35, D 3; 10 pts - 2T)

Alun Wyn JONES (OSPREYS - Cap No 1,046)

DoB: 19.09.85. 6'5" / 1.96m. 18st 10lbs / 119kgs

International record: 52 caps (W 21, L 31; 30 pts - 6T)

Ryan JONES (OSPREYS - Cap No 1,029)

DoB: 13.03.81. 6'5" / 1.96m. 17st 5lbs / 110kgs

International record: 53 caps (W 26, L 25, D 2; 5 pts - 1T)

Dan LYDIATE (NEWPORT GWENT DRAGONS - Cap No 1,071)

DoB: 18.12.87. 1.93m / 6'4". 17st 10lbs / 112kgs

International record: 14 caps (W 6, L 7, D 1)

Craig MITCHELL (EXETER CHIEFS - Cap No 1,068)

DoB: 03.05.86. 6'1" / 1.85m. 17st 2lbs / 109kgs

International record: 10 caps (W 7, L 3)

Ken OWENS (SCARLETS - Uncapped)

DoB: 03.01.87. 6'1" / 1.86m. 17st 8lbs / 112kgs

International record: Uncapped

Andy POWELL (SALE SHARKS - Cap No 1,061)

DoB: 23.08.81. 6'4" / 1.94m. 18st 0lbs / 114kgs

International record: 18 caps (W 9, L 9; 5 pts - 1T)

BACKS

Aled BREW (NEWPORT GWENT DRAGONS - Cap No 1,051)

DoB: 09.08.86. 6.0" / 1.83m. 15st 2lbs / 96kgs

International record: 7 caps (W 2, L 4, D 1; 5 pts - 1T)

Lee BYRNE (ASM CLERMONT AUVERGNE - Cap No 1,041)

DoB: 01.06.80. 6'3" / 1.91m. 14st 12lb / 94kgs

International record: 44 caps (W 18, L 24, D 2; 45 pts - 9T)

Jonathan DAVIES (SCARLETS - Cap No 1,066)

DoB: 05.04.88. 6'1" / 1.86m. 16st 3lb / 103kgs

International record: 14 caps (W 7, L 7; 10 pts - 2T)

Leigh HALFPENNY (CARDIFF BLUES - Cap No 1,060)

DoB: 22.12.88. 5'10" / 1.77m. 13st 2lbs / 83kgs

International record: 20 caps (W 8, L 12; 62 pts - 7T, 9PG)

James HOOK (PERPIGNAN - Cap No 1,047)

DoB: 27.06.85. 6'0" / 1.83m. 14st 12lbs / 94kgs

International record: 54 caps (W 23, L 29, D 2; 303 pts - 12T, 39C, 51PG, 4DG)

Stephen JONES (SCARLETS - Cap No 966)

DoB: 08.12.77. 6'1" / 1.86m. 14st 7lbs / 92kgs

International record: 100 caps (W 40, L 56, D 3; 889 pts - 7T, 142C, 184PG, 6DG)

Tavis KNOYLE (SCARLETS - Cap No 1,076)

DoB: 02.06.90. 6'1" / 1.85m. 14st 5lbs / 91kgs

International record: 5 caps (W 2, L 3)

George NORTH (SCARLETS - Cap No 1,078)

DoB: 13.04.92. 6'4" / 1.92m. 16st 5lbs / 104kgs

International record: 8 caps (W 2, L 5, D 1; 30 pts - 6T)

Mike PHILLIPS (BAYONNE - Cap No 1,022)

DoB: 29.08.82. 6'3" / 1.91m. 15st 10lb / 101kgs

International record: 54 caps (W 25, L 27, D 2; 30 pts - 6T)

Rhys PRIESTLAND (SCARLETS - Cap No 1,080)

DoB: 07.01.87 1.82m / 6'0". 13st 9lbs / 87kgs

International record: 4 caps (W 2, L 2; 10 pts - 2C, 2PG)

Jamie ROBERTS (CARDIFF BLUES - Cap No 1,057)

DoB: 08.11.86. 6'4" / 1.93m. 17st 5lbs / 110kgs

International record: 32 caps (W 15, L 17; 10 pts - 2T)

Lloyd WILLIAMS (CARDIFF BLUES - Cap No 1,087)

DoB: 30.11.89. 6'0" / 1.83m. 13st 9lbs / 87kgs

International record: 1 cap (W 1)

Scott WILLIAMS (SCARLETS - Cap No 1,084)

DoB: 10.10.90. 6'0" / 1.83m. 15st 3lbs / 97kgs

International record: International record: 4 caps (W 2, L 2)

Shane WILLIAMS (OSPREYS - Cap No 976)

DoB: 26.02.77. 5'7" / 1.71m. 12st 1lb / 77kgs

International record: 81 caps (W 39, L 40, D 2; 270 pts - 54T)

by PenfroPete Mon 22 Aug - 12:13

Removed

by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 22 Aug - 12:14

Here it is, folks:

Forwards: Gethin Jenkins (Blues), Lloyd Burns (Dragons), Huw Bennett, Ryan Bevington, Adam Jones, Paul James (Ospreys), Ken Owens (Scarlets, Craig Mitchell (Exeter), Bradley Davies, Sam Warburton (Blues), Luke Charteris, Danny Lydiate, Toby Faletau (Dragons), Ryan Jones, Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys), Andy Powell (Sale Sharks).

Backs: Michael Phillips (Bayonne), Lloyd Williams (Blues), Tavis Knoyle (Scarlets), Jamie Roberts (Blues), James Hook (Perpignan), Jonathan Davies, Stephen Jones, Rhys Priestland, Scott Williams (Scarlets), Leigh Halfpenny (Blues), Lee Byrne (Clermont Auvergne), Aled Brew (Dragons), Shane Williams (Ospreys), George North (Scarlets).

by RubyGuby Mon 22 Aug - 12:15

Backs: Lee Byrne (Clermont Auvergne), Rhys Priestland (Scarlets), George North (Scarlets), Shane Williams (Ospreys), Leigh Halfpenny (Cardiff Blues), Jonathan Davies (Scarlets), Jamie Roberts (Cardiff Blues), Scott Williams (Scarlets), James Hook (Perpignan), Stephen Jones (Scarlets), Mike Phillips (Bayonne), Tavis Knoyle (Scarlets), Lloyd Williams (Cardiff Blues).

Forwards: Paul James (Ospreys), Gethin Jenkins (Cardiff Blues), Adam Jones (Ospreys), Craig Mitchell (Exeter), Ryan Bevington (Ospreys), Huw Bennett (Ospreys), Lloyd Burns (Newport Gwent Dragons), Ken Owens (Scarlets), Bradley Davies (Cardiff Blues), Alun-Wyn Jones (Ospreys), Luke Charteris (Newport Gwent Dragons), Ryan Jones (Ospreys), Dan Lydiate (Newport Gwent Dragons), Josh Turnbull (Scarlets), Sam Warburton (Cardiff Blues, capt), Martyn Williams (Cardiff Blues), Toby Faletau (Newport Gwent Dragons).

by PenfroPete Mon 22 Aug - 12:16

or is he in ?? Jesus get it sorted people LINK

by RubyGuby Mon 22 Aug - 12:17

Powell Out Yahoo

by PenfroPete Mon 22 Aug - 12:17

BBC say Martyn out Powell in

PLANET RUGBY say the opposite Welsh Squad Thread - Warburton (Capt) - Nugget OUT 3187153522

by Cymroglan Mon 22 Aug - 12:18

Is Powell going or not ?

by welshy824 Mon 22 Aug - 12:18

powell is in, martyn williams left out

by munkian Mon 22 Aug - 12:19

RubyGuby wrote:Powell Out

I thought he had a good game Erm

by PenfroPete Mon 22 Aug - 12:21

Cymroglan wrote:Is Powell going or not ?

BBC - say yes

PLANET RUGBY - say no

WRU - says nothing . Nothing on the site yet !!

by mpc28 Mon 22 Aug - 12:21

ok who do we trust planet rugby or bbc?

by welshy824 Mon 22 Aug - 12:21

he is in wru and bbc sport have said he is in. and martyn williams isint in

by Seagultaf Mon 22 Aug - 12:22

Both reserve 7s (Turnbull and Williams) left out. So Warburton has to play 80mins every game!

Four wings plus JD, and Roberts have experience of playing there.

Wierd!!!!!!!!!

by PenfroPete Mon 22 Aug - 12:22

Can we tryst the WRU Welsh Squad Thread - Warburton (Capt) - Nugget OUT 57983

Anyway the WRU site has been updated

http://www.wru.co.uk/27087.php

as has the thread title

by welshy824 Mon 22 Aug - 12:23

4 wings (who can play fullback?)
yeah thought that about warbs playing every match- we are screwed if he gets injured.

by BATH_BTGOG Mon 22 Aug - 12:25

What a man C ock up!

by Cymroglan Mon 22 Aug - 12:26

I think it's one competition too early for Faletau but I hope he proves me wrong.

by RubyGuby Mon 22 Aug - 12:27

He's in

by munkian Mon 22 Aug - 12:28

RubyGuby wrote:He's in

Good. He can soak up the PI hight tackles, wont do him any harm !

by Smirnoffpriest Mon 22 Aug - 12:30

Why Powell who is worse than Toby and R Jones at 8 and Worse than R Jones Turnbull and Lydiate at 6 and no Turnbull or Tipuric who can cover 7? Also Turnbull can cover 4,5,6 and 7 (has even played 8 if we're in dire straights).

Big call on Hibbert, lets hope Bennetts form holds out.

Happy with the backs, but maybe could have dropped a winger (Brew I suppose, but like him) to include Turnbull.

by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 22 Aug - 12:30

welshy824 wrote:4 wings (who can play fullback?)
yeah thought that about warbs playing every match- we are screwed if he gets injured.

If he gets injured we can call up someone from outside the squad, am I right?

by mpc28 Mon 22 Aug - 12:31

Im not suprised Williams is out but i'am suprised that they havent taken Turnball who can cover around the back row and in the 2nd row, i'm guessing lydiate will be back up openside if Warburton is injured?

by RubyGuby Mon 22 Aug - 12:33

Calm down - Powell aside its a decent looking squad and encouraging to see Nuggett not in there - Brave and right decision, I like Owens, Burns looks a liability. There's enough quality however for us to give it more than a good crack. I'd go as far as to say its close to the best squad we've ever sent to a RWC thumbsup

by PenfroPete Mon 22 Aug - 12:38

luckless_pedestrian wrote: If he gets injured we can call up someone from outside the squad, am I right?

Correct

Welsh Squad Thread - Warburton (Capt) - Nugget OUT 3610695981

Still seems odd though Welsh Squad Thread - Warburton (Capt) - Nugget OUT 3187153522

by nottins_jones Mon 22 Aug - 12:39

POwell is in, Martyn is rightfully left out; according to the team announcement on the WRU site. Powell did well against ARg but it's unlikely he'll follow that up. We'll have to wait and see. He isn't good at the breakdown but can be a good strike runner and put in some good hits; it wouldn't be a bad idea pairing him with Lydiate and Warburton in the back row.

by Cymroglan Mon 22 Aug - 12:40

Question,,, Is there any reason that players that are not named in the 30 man squad cant travel as support staff.
The reason I'm asking is that they will already be acclimatised if called upon to cover injuries.

by Guest Mon 22 Aug - 12:42

Really surprised Turnbull hasn't been included, given how many positions he can cover. Odd.

by Trevor Brennan Rugby Tour Mon 22 Aug - 12:43

Big fan of Warburton. Delighted for him to win the captaincy. Feel very sorry for Martyn Williams though.

by munkian Mon 22 Aug - 12:45

Can't see why not if they have tickets Smile

by welshy824 Mon 22 Aug - 12:45

yeah its not a bad squad shame about hibbard, also feel sorry for henson but i guess thats life- he may be called upon if a back gets injured

by HammerofThunor Mon 22 Aug - 12:47

Cymroglan wrote:Question,,, Is there any reason that players that are not named in the 30 man squad cant travel as support staff.
The reason I'm asking is that they will already be acclimatised if called upon to cover injuries.

If their employer's is willing for them to go. The regions will expect them to get into training now and start playing soon. Doubt any would got if they're outside the 30.

by Guest Mon 22 Aug - 12:50

Pretty shocked that Brew is in, but then injuries have somewhat helped him. I thought Martyn Williams would go mind.

by kultschar Mon 22 Aug - 12:55

Byrne - didn't think would or should make it

Williams - didn't think Gatland would have the balls to drop

Turnbull - Surprised

Powell - I knew he would be in, however half a decent game against Italy (whoops I mean Argentina)

Brew - never seen anything in a Wales shirt however I guess no other wingers?

Overall I think great squad, its what Gatland does with it that worries me

by munkian Mon 22 Aug - 12:56

Risca Rev wrote:Pretty shocked that Brew is in, but then injuries have somewhat helped him. I thought Martyn Williams would go mind.

Shocked that Gats put some faith in him or shocked that hes punching above his weight ? Just wondered

by RubyGuby Mon 22 Aug - 12:58

Brew deserves his place IMO

by nottins_jones Mon 22 Aug - 12:59

kultschar wrote:Powell - I knew he would be in, however half a decent game against Italy (whoops I mean Argentina)

Am I missing something or am I the only to not get what you're talking about?

by Cymroglan Mon 22 Aug - 13:03

Byrne will need a bit of time to get his old form back but when he is on form he is up there with the best.
He made a couple of mistakes Saturday but I think he will improve.
A specialist fullback has to be a better option than playing somebody out of position and a off form Byrne is not a poor player it's just our expectations are higher because we know he is a quality player.

by kultschar Mon 22 Aug - 13:04

Well I knew he would be in the squad regardless of his performance over the weekend, he is certainly a favourite of Gatland and can do no wrong.

Argies are a shadow of their 2007 team and I put them on par with Italy. Powell had a half decent game against very poor opposition in my opinion and I guess that has swung it for him

by Smirnoffpriest Mon 22 Aug - 13:07

I think it's a brave move to leave Hibbert out - as although he looked out of shape and didn't play great, give him a month to get fit and I reckon he'd do well at least on the bench coming on for 60mins. Also if Bennett starts playing awful you've got an inexperienced Burns whose played poorly so far - I admit he may show the form that got him called up when given his next chance, and an inexperienced Owens who desperately needs gametime (I don't think he's played since January?).

by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 22 Aug - 13:08

Cymroglan wrote:Byrne will need a bit of time to get his old form back but when he is on form he is up there with the best.
He made a couple of mistakes Saturday but I think he will improve.
A specialist fullback has to be a better option than playing somebody out of position and a off form Byrne is not a poor player it's just our expectations are higher because we know he is a quality player.

I have to disagree with that. An off-form Byrne is a poor player.

by Smirnoffpriest Mon 22 Aug - 13:09

I also rate Brew and think he's very active, fast and aggresive when he has come on. My only question is do we need 5 wingers?

by munkian Mon 22 Aug - 13:10

RubyGuby wrote:Brew deserves his place IMO

I agree, all hes been given is the occassional 2nd half start - we didnt need to play North again against the Pumas - we knew how good he was , should've let Brew have a full run

by nottins_jones Mon 22 Aug - 13:11

Argentina are a poor team but a bit better than Italy without having their luxuries of playing top level rugby each year. I'd put the Argies on par with Scotland. If they find a new 10 and put Felipe to 12 (since he was running like one all afternoon) then their backs might be a bit dangerous.

by kultschar Mon 22 Aug - 13:13

luckless_pedestrian wrote:
Cymroglan wrote:Byrne will need a bit of time to get his old form back but when he is on form he is up there with the best.
He made a couple of mistakes Saturday but I think he will improve.
A specialist fullback has to be a better option than playing somebody out of position and a off form Byrne is not a poor player it's just our expectations are higher because we know he is a quality player.

I have to disagree with that. An off-form Byrne is a poor player.

Still remember that penalty and Byrne failing to kick the ball into touch in last years 6 Nations, didn't he do it twice?

by HammerofThunor Mon 22 Aug - 13:13

Hibbard's injured isnt he? Or at least an injury worry.

by munkian Mon 22 Aug - 13:16

Smirnoffpriest wrote:I also rate Brew and think he's very active, fast and aggresive when he has come on. My only question is do we need 5 wingers?

He could cover a mid field spot if needed, hes strong and agressive enough and doesn't slow down when running into tackles. I'm not sure if his handling skills are good enough though

by PenfroPete Mon 22 Aug - 13:18

I beleive the decision to leave HIBBARD out has nothing to do with 'fitness' per se. He sufferred ankle ligament damage on Saturday and it is widely reported that - "He will see a specialist today (Monday) but looks likely to become the second Welsh hooker to miss the tournament after skipper Matthew Rees’ neck problem"

by kultschar Mon 22 Aug - 13:19

PenfroPete wrote:I beleive the decision to leave HIBBARD out has nothing to do with 'fitness' per se. He sufferred ankle ligament damage on Saturday and it is widely reported that - "He will see a specialist today (Monday) but looks likely to become the second Welsh hooker to miss the tournament after skipper Matthew Rees’ neck problem"

Yup I also believe that is the case

by Smirnoffpriest Mon 22 Aug - 13:26

Ahh didn't hear that Hibbard was injured - thats an understandable selection now (dropping Hibbard and picking Owens), I suppose if he isn't badly injured he could always be called up after we've played a few games.

It's worrying what Gatlands doing to our squad, I mean it's great that we're really fit and are very physical but our players are dropping like flies!

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