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Post by Guest Sat 17 Sep 2011, 4:30 am

Has to, surely, be the Argentinians'? You think it's finished...and then they start singing! Brilliant, beats Forza Italia in the passion ranks, and that's no mean feat.

Willing to listen to other, more obscure suggestions, but I think that's the best I've heard so far. GSTQ really does come across as possibly the most boring national anthem, moreso than usual now it's on the world stage. Best and worst? Suggestions?

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat 17 Sep 2011, 5:02 am

I like the Russian one. Remind's me of the cold war. Happy days

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Post by Gatts Sat 17 Sep 2011, 6:43 am

HammerofThunor wrote:I like the Russian one. Remind's me of the cold war. Happy days

Yes it was great listening to the USA and Russian anthems together.

I would have to say the Welsh anthem is best in Cardiff, but I also love the French

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 17 Sep 2011, 7:10 am

Pre Sporting events I think you need a good tempo & for that Italy & France are perfect.

I really like the serenity & hymn like quality of the Japanese though....

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 17 Sep 2011, 8:10 am

I noticed this morning that the tune to South Africa's anthem is the same as the nursery rhyme "Incy Wincy Spider".

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 17 Sep 2011, 8:18 am

I love "Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau".

At it's best, (in MS, started by a male voice choir, crowd joining in at the end of teh first verse - NEVER sung by Katherine Jenkins) it is spinetingling. Does not work quite so well out in NZ, but still magnificent.

Many other great anthems - Marseillaise, Russian - and the classic tin-pot dictator anthems of Italy and Argentina.

Less said about the dirges that are GSTQ & Flower of Scotland the better.

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Post by Cari Sat 17 Sep 2011, 8:18 am

maestegmafia wrote:I noticed this morning that the tune to South Africa's anthem is the same as the nursery rhyme "Incy Wincy Spider".

Seriously!? laughing

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Post by Cari Sat 17 Sep 2011, 8:21 am

Obviously I prefer my home nation's anthem, but I do like the Irish one as well, and I know the chorus. Flower of Scotland's good when they do it at Murrayfield with the pipers and the crowd join in.

I haven't heard the Russian one yet.

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Post by Thomond Sat 17 Sep 2011, 8:55 am

We don't play the Irish anthem away from home though. France and Argentina's for me.

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Post by Knowsit17 Sat 17 Sep 2011, 9:04 am

Not a fan of military anthems, though I'll concede the passion and pride belted out by the French and Italians turns me against my own standards somewhat.

For some reason I've been partial to the Romanian anthem since discovering it. The mourning and tragic-sounding melody mixed into it touches the heart imo.

Always enjoyed the Saffa anthem also.

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Post by Breadvan Sat 17 Sep 2011, 9:04 am

Italain, French ( Lord Nelson must be turning in his grave, sorry sir!) and Russian. Reminds me of the 'Hunt for red october' film. thumbsup
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Post by deadgoat Sat 17 Sep 2011, 9:48 am

maestegmafia wrote:I noticed this morning that the tune to South Africa's anthem is the same as the nursery rhyme "Incy Wincy Spider".

You sir, have officially blown my mind. I've been singing Nkosi Sikelela for years and never realised this

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 17 Sep 2011, 10:07 am

Cari wrote:" Flower of Scotland's good when they do it at Murrayfield with the pipers and the crowd join in."

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But they play it so slow.

"Oh flower" pause
"of Scot" pause
"land" long pause
"when will" pause
"we see" pause
etc

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 17 Sep 2011, 10:10 am

deadgoat wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:I noticed this morning that the tune to South Africa's anthem is the same as the nursery rhyme "Incy Wincy Spider".

You sir, have officially blown my mind. I've been singing Nkosi Sikelela for years and never realised this

I was watching Wales SA with an American friend who decided he would support SA. He didn't know the anthem but wanted to sing along.

That's when we realised it was basically the same tune.

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Post by welshy824 Sat 17 Sep 2011, 11:35 am

welsh anthem all the way, irish one and scottish ones are pretty good aswell

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Post by alcoombe Sat 17 Sep 2011, 11:39 am

The French is the most stirring, but the Italian is the most fun. As someone else mentioned, the Japanese is a really nice piece, but the tranquility that makes it doesn't lend so well to motivating.

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Post by Mr Fishpaste Sat 17 Sep 2011, 1:48 pm

If you're keen for variation then Nkosi Sikelele Afrika is a clear winner: Two songs, four languages, two keys (and apparently a nursery rhyme) all rolled into one.

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Post by Shifty Sat 17 Sep 2011, 2:54 pm

I love the:
1) Japanease
2) Ukranian ( not at world cup, but listen to it)
3) Italy
4) France
5) Russia

Anthems in that order, the Japanease one is lovely when sung by a full stadium, though the Ukranian one is beautiful also, try finding it on you tube and you will see what I mean thumbsup


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Post by Full Credit Sat 17 Sep 2011, 4:03 pm

Not sure about the best but if Australia's 'girt by sea' isn't the worst I don't know what is. Just as I'm getting amped up before a match that dirge slams me right back down to earth. Always had a soft spot for the Welsh anthem.

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Sep 2011, 4:12 pm

Anthems are what the mute button is for. All of them.

Anthems are for people who like U2. Yuck.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 17 Sep 2011, 5:29 pm

I like the French Anthem - blood in the streets and all that.

All the rest are simply way too long or not exciting.

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Post by alcoombe Sat 17 Sep 2011, 6:21 pm

La Marseillaise moves me more than most, but how can you say Il Canto degli Italiani is too long (90 seconds) or not exciting. Love the crescendo at the end, the Italians always look fired up when they sing/shout it.

We are ready to die,
Italy has called, yes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3RToBymttA

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Post by Guest Sun 18 Sep 2011, 1:22 am

I have to say Wales' is still my favourite, unsuprisingly, because it means so much. I also think the repeated cry of 'Gwlad' is unmatched in the passion ranks, and with the lyricism and beauty of the verse, it never fails to instil pride and excitement in me. But, obviously, I'm biased.

After the Welsh, I like the passion of the Latin nations, the tuneful anthems of Australia and NZ, the sheer melancholic solemnity of the Eastern European countries, and the Irish national anthem always seemed to me a perfect rallying cry, not far off the French, which in itself is brilliant.

Suppose it's all subjective; are you listening to the music, words, or relating the song to the abstract notion of nation and national pride...Gwlad...Gwlad... Cat

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Post by Guest Sun 18 Sep 2011, 12:23 pm

I think it's important to be able to speak the language of your anthem. Just shrieking phonetically like John Redwood (wearing a pink cowboy hat) is a bit poor.

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Post by Cymroglan Sun 18 Sep 2011, 12:37 pm

I would presume that John Redwood would know the words of his anthem since he is English and his first language being English.

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Post by Guest Sun 18 Sep 2011, 12:48 pm

Ah, but he sings the Welsh one like your average Welshman.

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Post by Cymroglan Sun 18 Sep 2011, 12:52 pm

Oh ok

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Post by Guest Sun 18 Sep 2011, 12:55 pm

No probs OK

He did used to be our man in Wales so it was in his best interests to fit in. When you're the one currently running the place you want to be like the locals.

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Post by Cymroglan Sun 18 Sep 2011, 1:00 pm

Oh ok

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Post by Geordie Mon 19 Sep 2011, 3:52 pm

Yuip gotta agree...the Russian is a quality piece of music.....

However for pure pride out there to fire you up...its gotta be the La Marseillaise. Sheer class.

Then you listen to our drudge that is GSTQ. Its the most uninspiring anthem at the WC.

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Post by westisbest Mon 19 Sep 2011, 4:22 pm

Canadian-South African-French ones are good.

Do like the aussie anthem to.


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Post by Shifty Mon 19 Sep 2011, 4:28 pm

The French one is nice but the words don't suit the country...

It's all very well talking about blood through the streets, but when the Germans passed though Belguim, it was Nazi flags marching through the streets, white flags on French houses, and 100,000 French hookers on the Paris streets taking advantage of the extra men in town.

Sorry but to sing that anthem with that blood lust is silly with their history... Shocked
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Post by damage_13 Mon 19 Sep 2011, 4:32 pm

I like the Italian anthem, its full of pomp and a bit revolutionary (like La Marseillaise, War Song of the Army of the Rhine).

The Celts sing of nothing but their solitary victory over England and while a good song, the Welsh Anthem is too emotional,witness the constant blubbering by the Welsh players every time its played (...hmm could be a good distracting tactic playing that while the game is in flow).

The Russian one is good.

This is the only thing pretty much all fans of all nations can agree on, the English are on a hiding to nothing with GSTQ.. turgid repetitive mush.




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Post by damage_13 Mon 19 Sep 2011, 4:33 pm

AlynDavies wrote:The French one is nice but the words don't suit the country...

It's all very well talking about blood through the streets, but when the Germans passed though Belguim, it was Nazi flags marching through the streets, white flags on French houses, and 100,000 French hookers on the Paris streets taking advantage of the extra men in town.

Sorry but to sing that anthem with that blood lust is silly with their history... Shocked

you obviously know nothing of their history then Rolling Eyes

apart from every time they met les rosbifs Wink

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Post by Effervescing Elephant Mon 19 Sep 2011, 4:34 pm

Italian for me. You can sing any lyrics at all and they fit. It's brilliant.
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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon 19 Sep 2011, 4:34 pm

Anthems are what the mute button is for. All of them

It's referred to as the 'Stuart Barnes button' in my house.

Italian anthem is way out in front, I'm bias and do quite like God Save the Queen but have never really got the fuss about the Welsh one though the players clearly get psyched up listening to it.

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Mon 19 Sep 2011, 4:38 pm

Obviously I'm going to say the Welsh one - i love it and it sends shivers down my spine and makes my heart swell when I hear it - especially if you listen to the words and the meaning of the song.

The Russian is very good, I like the Irish one and I despise the English one.
The Japanese (which I googled after someone on here mentioned it) is very pretty and poetic but not very inspiring.

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Mon 19 Sep 2011, 4:41 pm

And the French have had a pretty bloody history - especially sweeping across Europe (and bits of near Asia and Africa) during the Napoleonic War destroying everything - including the British army, in sight.

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Post by brennomac Mon 19 Sep 2011, 4:45 pm

Haven't seen the lead-up to all the games especially the ones starting at the crack of dawn so don't know what the Samoa/Tonga/Fiji/Romania/Georgia anthems sound like. But of the rest they're a real mixed bag

The spine-tingling: Land of our Fathers always makes the hair on the back of my neck tingle - absolutely inspiring except when sung by the Jenkins one
The bloodthirsty - Marseillaise and the real Irish anthem (replete with bullets and gunshot) instead of the dire Ireland's Call
The long and jolly - the Argie and Italy ditties - no sooner do you think they're over then they launch into a completely different tune. Seeing a grizzled old hunk like Ledesma and Castrogiavanni almost in tears - some sight
The politically correct - the SA song with words in 57 different languages. I know recent history dictates a certain level of pc but jeez changing language almost every line....The Spar-Spangled Banner - all that breast-beating hand over the heart stuff by the yanks - give me a break it's only a song but the yanks have to wrap themselves in the flag
The dirges - GSTQ,Flower of Scotland, the Aussie and NZ songs, the Canadian one(being married to a Canuck I've got to hear this monstrosity so many times.

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Post by Shifty Mon 19 Sep 2011, 5:06 pm

damage_13 wrote:you obviously know nothing of their history then Rolling Eyes

apart from every time they met les rosbifs Wink

Most of the European Empires have spent their histories savaging each other, and other countries across the world, we still do it today!
But there is a reason the Union Jack is on many countries flags, and English is spoken by most countries as a second language, and why England had the largest empire in the known World, taking up one third of the land mass at one point!
Including Wales.. well someone has to pay for all those lazy, benefit scrounging tossers in Merthyr don't they... no offence of course... Whistle
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Post by MunsterMac Mon 19 Sep 2011, 5:08 pm

It's all very well talking about blood through the streets, but when the Germans passed though Belguim, it was Nazi flags marching through the streets, white flags on French houses, and 100,000 French hookers on the Paris streets taking advantage of the extra men in town.

Sorry but to sing that anthem with that blood lust is silly with their history

I think it's fair to say that had the UK a land border with Nazi Germany like Belguim and France your King would have had to get busy redecorating the Palace in black,red and yellow bunting to welcome the inlaws.

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Post by doctor_grey Mon 19 Sep 2011, 5:45 pm

MunsterMac wrote:
It's all very well talking about blood through the streets, but when the Germans passed though Belguim, it was Nazi flags marching through the streets, white flags on French houses, and 100,000 French hookers on the Paris streets taking advantage of the extra men in town.

Sorry but to sing that anthem with that blood lust is silly with their history

I think it's fair to say that had the UK a land border with Nazi Germany like Belguim and France your King would have had to get busy redecorating the Palace in black,red and yellow bunting to welcome the inlaws.
Or Ireland, mate? The benefit of being Island Nations.

The French Anthem comes from the Revolution, when Frenchmen were killing Frenchmen. Regardless, its still the most spine tingling for me - before Rugby matches, not going into battle. When I was serving, there were a lot of jokes about that.

The differences of opinion here is pretty interesting. I think across all the posts here there is at least one post liking and at least one post disliking each anthem. Although I don't think there is much enthusiasm for Australia's.

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Post by Guest Mon 19 Sep 2011, 7:42 pm

Wow, didn't take long for this to turn into idiotic nationalism. They say the chance of someone accusing someone else of being Hitler or an Nazi during an argument on the internet, if it goes on long enough, is 1 (certain).

We're onto Nazis already...come on lads. Just enjoy the music Whistle

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Post by doctor_grey Mon 19 Sep 2011, 7:53 pm

I think you"re reaching a bit with that, mate. We are all having a good discussion and a bit of a laugh. Just sit back and enjoy all seven verses of GSTQ.

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Post by Cymroglan Mon 19 Sep 2011, 8:02 pm

My Welsh pride,
I will not hide.
My Welsh race,
I will not disgrace.
My Welsh blood,
Flows hot & true.
My Welsh people,
I will stand by you.
Through thick & thin,
Until the day we die.
Our Welsh Flag.
Will Fly up High
For me there is only one Anthem that brings out all the emotions but I respect all the others.

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Post by Shifty Mon 19 Sep 2011, 8:23 pm

miaow wrote:Wow, didn't take long for this to turn into idiotic nationalism. They say the chance of someone accusing someone else of being Hitler or an Nazi during an argument on the internet, if it goes on long enough, is 1 (certain).

We're onto Nazis already...come on lads. Just enjoy the music Whistle
My bad Sorry

So we are at least agreed that Australia, Canada and USA have crap anthems? at least in comparison to some other countries ones anyway.

Russia - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOAtz8xWM0w&feature=related thumbsup
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Post by Guest Mon 19 Sep 2011, 8:27 pm

Don't mind the Aussie anthem, it's quite tuneful, though it's a bit tame considering the country in question. You'd expect something with a bit more balls.

The American anthem is pretty funny. It is everything American, where the Aussie's anthem is not. Over the top, brash, embarrassingly uninhibited and, perhaps, lacking self perception. I'm not a massive fan, but it's alright, does the job.

Haven't heard the Canadian one.

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Post by doctor_grey Mon 19 Sep 2011, 10:46 pm

To me, the Aussie anthem is only good when sung by one of those pretty Aussie girls. I rather like the American anthem. If you actually listen to the words it is really just a poem put to music about a battle (against the British). Very descriptive, no chest pounding at all, no blood in the streets:
"The rockets red glare, the bombs bursting in air" British ships bombarding Baltimore (I think).

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Post by hawalsh Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:39 am

Definitely the Italian one. It's the sort of anthem you can joyfully sing (mumble) along with waving a stein brimming with beer about in the air. Love it when in Italy everyone starts clapping along towards the end then shouts hey as it finishes. A proper knees up anthem.

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Post by boomeranga Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:55 am

HammerofThunor wrote:I like the Russian one. Remind's me of the cold war. Happy days
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