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Post by paperbag_puncher Fri 23 Sep 2011, 2:54 am

The recent talk of fixing in the amateurs got me thinking. Which fights in history would have the the most negative effect on a) boxing in general and b)the fighter's legacy if we now found out they were fixed? Obviously any instances of fight fixing would be a blemish but which fights would be a major black mark against the sport and fighters involved?

It has to be probably the most well known fight ever for me "The rumble" Although Ali's record would still be impressive, no win over Big George would leave a gaping hole in his CV. An older, past it Ali knocking out the unbeatable monster that was George is one of the most iconic moments in sport. If it were found out not to be legit it would seriously undermine the sport and diminish Ali's legacy.

Any other examples of the above?

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Post by ShahenshahG Fri 23 Sep 2011, 3:22 am

Hagler - Hearns - Totally destroy Haglers legacy and diminish what is one of the greatest memories of boxing.

Leonard Hagler - ditto for both.

Leonard Duran - one or two - the first would cost Duran a couple places in HOF - the second would condemn Leonard.

too much to tell.

On a smaller scale - Naz - Barrera, Morales Pac,

it just goes on and on my friend

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Post by AlexHuckerby Fri 23 Sep 2011, 6:45 am

um pretty much any good big fight including a big name?

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Post by paperbag_puncher Fri 23 Sep 2011, 7:00 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:um pretty much any good big fight including a big name?

Um nice contribution.......

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Post by BALTIMORA Fri 23 Sep 2011, 7:43 am

Benn-McLellan..?

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Post by huw Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:51 am

Audley vs Haye would totally destroy Audleys legacy.

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Post by Scottrf Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:53 am

I reckon about every big name in history has been in a fixed fight.

Maybe Ali-Foreman?

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Post by GerardMcL Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:53 am

Would love to know the truth about Liston - Ali 1 & 2.
Both are not too subtly rumoured to have been fixed.

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Post by captain carrantuohil Fri 23 Sep 2011, 10:52 am

The first Ali-Frazier fight. Still by far the most anticipated fight in boxing history, if the result had been known to be fixed, it would have crushed so many people. Anticlimax wouldn't even have begun to cover it.

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Post by Guest Fri 23 Sep 2011, 12:05 pm

Tyson/Douglas?

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Post by ShahenshahG Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:00 pm

Na, half the world would scream that they knew it at the time. Poor buster would get shellacked, wouldn't harm Tyson's reputation and his fanboys would have yet another excuse as to why he didnt become the overlord of prizefighting.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:02 pm

He was the Overlord.........

No one has been bigger since...

Tyson transcended more than anyone in the last 25 years...

Might not have been the greatest but was the greatest draw..

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Post by ShahenshahG Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:05 pm

I suppose, but both inside and outside boxing he will be remembered as a could have been. If, If,If. Also as a naughty person and ear biter, and for blowing a 300 million dollar fortune.

Not a great legacy to be honest.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:07 pm

Depends how you view him..

He was good for Boxing...generated huge interest that filtered down for me...

It's open to interpretation though...

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Post by ShahenshahG Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:12 pm

On that I agree, boxing has always been viewed with suspicion so anything Tyson did couldn't really damage the sport and the revenues he brought in gave a new lease of life. The only negative thing was the calls to ban the sport got a little more vociferous but thankfully silenced by our beloved baying mob. Holyfield, Lewis etc all benefitted from being in his peripheral, much like Morales, Barerra etc all benefitted from Naz even though he also achieved a shadow of what he was capable of.

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Post by kevchadders Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:24 pm

Marciano and the Mafia.

Too far back too know if they did fix any/most of the fights, but it they where heavily involved Rocky would get no where near the top 20 ATG Heavies.

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