The v2 Forum
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Who Fixed The Draw?

+7
lydian
prostaff85
Haddie-nuff
socal1976
lags72
Jahu
hawkeye
11 posters

Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by hawkeye Mon May 07, 2012 1:02 am

Of all the players from all the lands there is one player that must prompt Nadal to tremble with fear. There is only one player who has beaten Nadal more often than Nadal has beaten them. This player has won their last 4 matches. Nadal's last win over this player came in the dim and distant past (2009) and should probably be discounted as I have a feeling Nadal wouldn't have got the win if his opponant didn't have a bit of a cold...

Nadal has to face none other than his true nemesis Davydenko in his first match on the blue clay of Madrid. Who fixed the draw? I have a sneaky suspicion Djokovic and/or Federer had something to do with it... I've also noticed Federer has a little smug smile everytime he talks about blue clay too...

hawkeye

Posts : 5427
Join date : 2011-06-12

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by Jahu Mon May 07, 2012 3:21 am

Slow day eh?
Jahu
Jahu

Posts : 6747
Join date : 2011-03-29
Location : Egg am Faaker See

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by lags72 Mon May 07, 2012 4:35 am

We're in Madrid. It's clay.

Their surface h2h might therefore be more significant than the overall tally. On the red, sorry ....blue .... stuff, it's 3-0 to Rafa. Que sorpresa ! Rolling Eyes

But if anyone really believes Davy can take this one, then William Hill will give you a generous 12/1.

On the other hand : put £50 on Rafa and look forward to a tempting return of .... er .... £1. Should he somehow scrape a win. Yes, that's one pound.

lags72

Posts : 5018
Join date : 2011-11-07

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by socal1976 Mon May 07, 2012 11:36 am

Who is fixing the draws? I think it is an evil alliance of uncle of toni and the freemasons, possibly in cahoots with guy forget and the french federation. Fact, uncle toni visits paris every year. Fact, freemasons are located in paris as the Dan Brown books state. Fact, Guy Forget french federation guy is also in paris at the same time as the above two individuals or organizations. Its the unholy trilogy of uncle toni, forget, and the masons. They are responsible for rigging the draws against Djoko.

socal1976

Posts : 14212
Join date : 2011-03-18
Location : southern california

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by Haddie-nuff Mon May 07, 2012 1:42 pm

.http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2012/05/19/Madrid-Sunday-Davydenko-To-Face-Nadal.aspx

Im sure that Rafa wont take anything for granted

Haddie-nuff

Posts : 6936
Join date : 2011-02-27
Location : Returned to Spain

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by hawkeye Mon May 07, 2012 2:31 pm

social

But in this case the draw looks pretty "rigged" against Rafa. I'm sure Uncle Toni and the freemasons could have come up with a much easier first round (for him) opponant than his nemesis Daveydenko...

Haddie-nuff. From your link.

“He has less confidence against me on hard court; I have beaten him more times there,” acknowledged the Russian. With the exception of two round robin matches at the circuit finale, this will be the first time that Davydenko and Nadal are meeting prior to a quarter-finals of an ATP World Tour event.


“For most players the first round is the most difficult,” said Davydenko. “It doesn’t matter if it’s Djokovic, Federer or Nadal. For all players it will be a different fight because for every match you are fighting, you start to feel more confident. In the semi-final or final it is much tougher because he feels very good and he has won matches and it’s very difficult to stop him. The first round, I don’t know.”


I think Davydenko is hoping to catch Nadal cold. The stats show that Davydenko has never beaten Nadal on clay but they have only played three times. The first was in Rome in 2007. Nadal won 7-6 6-7 6-4. Sadly I didn't see it but it looks like it was a very close and exciting match. Also is the blue Madrid "clay" or is it something else?

hawkeye

Posts : 5427
Join date : 2011-06-12

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by prostaff85 Mon May 07, 2012 10:31 pm

hawkeye wrote:The stats show that Davydenko has never beaten Nadal on clay but they have only played three times.
(...)
Also is the blue Madrid "clay" or is it something else?

We don't differentiate between green, blue, purple, etc. hardcourts, so why should the colour of the clay matter?

Let's hope Davydenko can pull off a surprise! His form has been terrible of late...
prostaff85
prostaff85

Posts : 450
Join date : 2011-11-29
Location : Helsinki

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by Haddie-nuff Mon May 07, 2012 11:25 pm

HE

Strange you should miss out the other part of Davy´s quote chin

On the clay I have never beaten him. He is the best player on clay for sure. That's where he starts to fight and play different tennis. He runs different and it's very tough to beat him on clay.”


Hence my reason for saying Im sure Rafa wont take anything for granted

Haddie-nuff

Posts : 6936
Join date : 2011-02-27
Location : Returned to Spain

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by lydian Tue May 08, 2012 2:23 am

Davy wont be giving Nadal any problems this year...fast (blue), slippy clay courts or not.

The courts are clay but the iron oxide they normally use in the brick firing process that makes them red has not been added, with blue dye added instead. Clay courts are basically just crushed bricks (in this case blue bricks) - rolled under huge weight with dressing put on top.
lydian
lydian

Posts : 9178
Join date : 2011-04-30

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by JuliusHMarx Tue May 08, 2012 2:32 am

lydian wrote:Davy wont be giving Nadal any problems this year...fast (blue), slippy clay courts or not.

The courts are clay but the iron oxide they normally use in the brick firing process that makes them red has not been added, with blue dye added instead. Clay courts are basically just crushed bricks (in this case blue bricks) - rolled under huge weight with dressing put on top.

I think the iron oxide has been removed, rather than not added.

Careful with using the word 'dressing'. If Tiriac gets wind of this, he'll be putting water cress and mayo on the court next year.

JuliusHMarx
julius
julius

Posts : 22579
Join date : 2011-07-01
Location : Paisley Park

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by lydian Tue May 08, 2012 2:57 am

Indeed JHM.
Yes its technically removed from the mix...making white clay(!).
They can then make it any colour they want.
Tiriac says it costs twice as much as a normal clay court to produce.

Some facts about it here: http://sportinglife.aol.co.uk/tennis/news/article/22887/7711642/will-new-clay-give-players-the-blues-
lydian
lydian

Posts : 9178
Join date : 2011-04-30

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by JuliusHMarx Tue May 08, 2012 3:17 am

lydian wrote:Indeed JHM.
Yes its technically removed from the mix...making white clay(!).
They can then make it any colour they want.
Tiriac says it costs twice as much as a normal clay court to produce.

Some facts about it here: http://sportinglife.aol.co.uk/tennis/news/article/22887/7711642/will-new-clay-give-players-the-blues-

White clay, with orange lines and blue balls. Roll on Madrid 2013!

JuliusHMarx
julius
julius

Posts : 22579
Join date : 2011-07-01
Location : Paisley Park

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by reckoner Tue May 08, 2012 3:34 am

JuliusHMarx wrote:..cress and mayo on the court next year.

This is all leading up to the great bacon tournament of 2015.

reckoner

Posts : 2652
Join date : 2011-09-09

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by Josiah Maiestas Tue May 08, 2012 4:18 am

How can this tournament even go ahead, with no Murray?

Stop the tournament altogether I say.

Who wins this tournament will have an asterisk near their name!
Josiah Maiestas
Josiah Maiestas

Posts : 6700
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 35
Location : Towel Island

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by lydian Tue May 08, 2012 5:26 am

Absolutely, Murray was a shoe-in for the title.
That said, of all clay events this probably would have been Murray's best chance of going far...
lydian
lydian

Posts : 9178
Join date : 2011-04-30

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by Guest Tue May 08, 2012 5:43 am

Josiah Maiestas wrote:How can this tournament even go ahead, with no Murray?

Stop the tournament altogether I say.

Who wins this tournament will have an asterisk near their name!
I agree. Where ever Murray goes he leaves an assterisk behind him.

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by Henman Bill Tue May 08, 2012 1:03 pm

If davy is in good shape 12/1 seems far more reasonable than 1/50.

Henman Bill

Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by lydian Tue May 08, 2012 1:07 pm

Having now seen these courts in play I believe Davy's chances have just increased by 50% vs pre-event odds! Still think its around 80% chance Nadal wins in 2 tight sets though - for Davy to win he needs to beat him quickly (as he has done in the past).
lydian
lydian

Posts : 9178
Join date : 2011-04-30

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by hawkeye Tue May 08, 2012 2:43 pm

So who did fix the draw so that Nadal got his nemesis in his first match on this new hybred fast clay surface? Where are all the draw consperators when you need them?

hawkeye

Posts : 5427
Join date : 2011-06-12

Back to top Go down

Who Fixed The Draw? Empty Re: Who Fixed The Draw?

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum