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Post by Marky Tue 04 Oct 2011, 10:25 am

Drew McIntyre is already in the ring as Randy Orton’s entrance begins to kick off the show.

Randy Orton v. Drew McIntyre

They exchange blows after squaring off. Orton hits a dropkick that sends Drew out of the ring. Orton follows after and whips Drew into the barricade on one side of the ring, and then the other. Orton slides him back into the ring and sets Drew up in the corner for a 10 count punch. Orton completes the sequence as Drew clings to the ropes for the break. Orton backs off, but Drew kicks him in the jaw! Orton collapses to the mat as Drew mounts him for a series of punches. Drew connects with a snap suplex and goes for the cover. Orton kicks out.

Drew puts Orton’s neck against the second rope and places his knee on the Viper’s back for leverage. Orton fights back, pushing Drew into the corner with an uppercut. Drew is whipped to the corner, but blocks a splash with his boots. Cover, but Orton kicks out. Drew looks frustrated as he resorts to a Sumerian Arm Bar. Drew releases the hold and connects with a swinging neckbreaker. Drew heads to the second rope and leaps, but Orton counters with his feet. Orton hits his snap scoop slam and starts to get the crowd fired up. Drew is sent to the apron and is set up for the suspended DDT. It connects! Orton falls down to the mat and pounds with his fists. He hits the RKO, and this match is over!

Winner via RKO: Randy Orton

After the match, Mark Henry’s music hits and he walks down to ringside while Orton is still in the ring celebrating. Henry laughs and holds his Title up in the air. Orton slides out of the ring and exchanges blows with the Champion. Security rushes to ringside to separate the two men. John Laurinaitis is out encouraging the security detail. As tends to happen in such occurrences, the multitude of security personnel can’t keep Orton from rushing Henry a couple of times. Orton knocks Henry over the barricade and the Champion falls to the cement.

****Commercial****

Back from the break, Henry is in the ring with his Title. Orton has presumably been ushered to the back. A video package plays highlighting the rise of Henry and his “Hall of Pain”.

Mark Henry v. John Morrison

Henry backs him into the corner and tries to connect with an arm bar, but John spins to his feet. The counter is fruitless however as Henry just clotheslines him. Henry lifts Morrison into the air and goes for the World’s Strongest Slam, but Morrison slides off. He connects with a bit of offense, and sets up for Starship Pain and lands it. Henry kicks out of the cover and hits the World’s Strongest Slam! This match is over.

Winner via World’s Strongest Slam: Mark Henry

After the match Henry cuts a short promo about his Hall of Pain.

John Laurinaitis is in the back with David Otunga, Christian, Vickie, Dolph, Cody Rhodes, Swagger and Alberto Del Rio. Otunga says that they have legitimate gripes about treatment. Laurinaitis tries to brush them aside, so Vickie says that they are going to the ring to air their concerns.

****Commercial****

The crew from the last backstage segment is all in the ring. Del Rio grabs the mic and blames HHH for the happenings at the end of the PPV last night. Del Rio thinks it is curious that the cell was raised to allow Cena and “hooligans” to enter the ring and attack him. The Champion says that HHH is the person with the power to have made that happen.

Christian speaks now, and says that the workplace has become unsafe since HHH took over as COO. Rhodes blames the conditions on HHH’s ego. Dolph says that HHH’s actions have gone by unsupervised, so they are going to take action into their own hands. Swagger says that thanks to HHH, his friends and family are now concerned for his safety every time he enters the ring. Vickie says excuse me, and the crowd is hot! She gets in a couple of sentences and then hands the mic to Otunga.

David Otunga says that he has studied cases like theirs in the past. As the resident Harvard-graduate lawyer, he knows that they can either suffer under HHH’s employ. Or, they can band together and make a stand.

Triple H’s music hits and he walks onto the entrance ramp. He asks what the company has become. Men used to stand in the ring and fight. No matter what happened they got into the ring and did their job. They didn’t whine like kids and threaten lawsuits. They got in the ring and they fought. He doesn’t give a damn about Miz & Truth’s lawsuit or about the lawsuit of the men now in the ring.

Tonight the men in the ring are going to fight against Evan Bourne, Kofi Kingston, Sheamus, CM Punk & John Cena. He doesn’t want them to threaten a lawsuit against those guys; he wants them to do what they are paid to do – fight.

****Commercial****

Kelly Kelly & Eve Torres v. Beth Phoenix & Natalya

Beth and Kelly start off the match. Kelly is sent outside the ring, but Kelly gets to her feet and slams Beth’s head against the announce table. Natalya tries to run over to help, but Eve comes over to take her out. Kelly continues the onslaught on Beth and it takes Eve pulling her off for the former Divas Champion to release the woman who won her Championship last night.

No Contest

John Laurinaitis is in HHH’s office and says that HHH needs to be a man just as much as the talent. He suggests that The Game asks for a vote of confidence from the RAW locker room. John asks if he is scared. HHH grabs John by the neck tie and tells him that he isn’t scared of anything. What bothers him is that his right hand man may very well be the one sabotaging his every move. HHH tells him to get every superstar in the ring, and he will look each one of them in the eye during the vote. John is told to make sure he is out there as well.

****Commercial****

Jinder Mahal is in the ring, and is saying… something. No translation provided and my magic bunny ear translation head gear appears to be broken. Santino Marella comes down to the ring with a mic, and he just blatantly talks in nonsensical jargon.

Jinder Mahal v. Santino Marella

Jinder is whipped into the corner and falls to the mat. Santino pumps up for the Cobra, and this match is over!

Winner via Cobra: Santino Marella

****Commercial****

Video Recap of The Miz & Truth attacking competitors and referees last night at the PPV

We then go to a youtube clip of The Miz and R-Truth apologizing.

CM Punk’s music hits and he makes his way down to the ring for the huge 12-man tag match.

John Cena, CM Punk, WWE Tag Team Champions Kofi Kingston/Evan Bourne, Sheamus and Mason Ryan vs. WWE Champion Alberto Del Rio, Christian, WWE Intercontinental Champion Cody Rhodes, WWE United States Champion Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger and David Otunga

****Commercial****

Cena fights through Christian and Otunga. Ziggler gets the tag, so Cena brings in Mason Ryan. Ziggler is decimated by a clothesline as Sheamus and Swagger are brought in by their respective teams. Sheamus hits a backbreaker and goes for the cover. Swagger kicks out. Punk comes into the ring and jumps to the top rope, but Swagger crawls towards the corner and tags in Rhodes. Punk jumps down to the mat to square off. Punk grabs a side headlock but gets backed into the corner. Rhodes shoves his shoulder into Punk’s gut, and then stomps on his chest. Rhodes throws a few punches before locking on a seated arm bar. Punk fights his way free. Both teams charge into the ring, but they refrain from contact as we go to commercial.

****Commercial****

Kofi and Rhodes are in the ring. Rhodes hits a high kick and goes for the cover. Kofi kicks out. Del Rio gets the tag and hits a snapmare takedown. Dropkick to the head and a cover, but Kofi kicks out. Christian gets the tag and applies a chin lock. Christian floors him with an elbow and then tags in Swagger. He stomps on Kofi and tags in Ziggler. Dolph points towards the corner, taunting Kofi. Ziggler goes for a cover, but Kofi kicks out. Ziggler pulls Kofi to the corner and tags in Rhodes. Cody throws Kofi out of the ring. Swagger gets in a cheap shot. Cody heads out of the ring and tries to whip Kofi into the barricade, but gets sent there himself!

Cody quickly gets back into the ring and tags in Christian who keeps Kofi from bringing in a fresh teammate. Swagger gets the tag and begins to work on Kofi’s leg. Quick tag to Ziggler who takes time to soak up the moment. He leaps for an elbow, but Kofi moves out of the way. Kofi tries his best to reach the corner, but Ziggler tags in Otunga. Kofi is scoop slammed and hits with an elbow. Cover, but Kofi kicks out. Ziggler gets the tag and punches Kofi in the sternum. Both men bounce off the ropes and leap for a crossbody. Swagger gets the tag, but can’t stop Kofi from tagging in Bourne!

The high flyer hits a couple of kicks and knocks Christian off the apron. Swagger tries to arm drag him into the ring, but Bourne blocks. Evan heads to the top rope and leaps for the Shooting Star Press! It connects! Cover – but Vickie drags the leg of Swagger under the bottom rope. The referee sees and stops the count, but also sends Vickie to the back!

****Commercial****

Christian has Bourne against the second rope and punches him in the face. Cover, but Evan kicks out. Christian has a front headlock applied as he brings in Del Rio. Titl-a-whirl backbreaker and cover, but Evan kicks out. Evan is whipped into the corner but blocks a splash with his boot. Evan hits a tornado DDT and goes for the tag. Cena gets the tag and connects with two shoulder blocks and a side slam. The 5 Knuckle Shuffle continues the 5 Moves of Doom as Cena is looking for the Attitude Adjustment. Del Rio counters with an arm breaker, and tags in Cody. Cody tags in Christian. Del Rio is brought back in next. Each man took shots at Cena, so Del Rio goes for the cover. Cena kicks out.

Alberto Del Rio applies a headlock, and then head butts Cena. Swagger gets the tag as Cena is seated in the corner. Swagger lifts him to his feet and connects with some punches before whipping him hard into the corner. Cena falls to the mat and Swagger hits his second rope splash. Cover, but Cena kicks out. A frustrated Swagger lifts Cena to his feet and whips him into the opposite corner. Again Cena falls to the mat and again Swagger goes for the splash. This time Cena gets out of the way, and tags in Sheamus. Ziggler gets the tag on his team and runs in to several clubbing blows of Sheamus. The Irish star takes to the top rope, but Christian pushes him back into the ring. Ziggler goes for the cover, but Sheamus kicks out. Christian spears Sheamus, but Bourne comes in to make the save. All hell breaks loose as competitor after competitor enters the ring and hits their finisher. Bodies are flying everywhere as Sheamus hits a brutal Brogue Kick on Ziggler! This match is over!

Winners: John Cena, CM Punk, WWE Tag Team Champions Kofi Kingston/Evan Bourne, Sheamus and Mason Ryan

****Commercial****

The WWE locker room makes their way down around the ring. Wrestlers, referees and Divas are all present. Jerry Lawler’s music hits and he makes an entrance as well. The vote of confidence for HHH is up next!

****Commercial****

HHH’s music hits and he makes his way down and into the ring. He says they are out here to take a vote of confidence about his job performance as the COO. He says that he didn’t ask for this job, it was given to him. It was more difficult than he expected. Miz and Truth say that he is a hypocrite, but what they should be doing is apologizing for being a bunch of babies. If you are willing to do the crime, you have to be willing to do the time. Trips admits that he is a bit old school. He like watching people beat the crap out of each other, he enjoys the chaos and is sure the WWE Universe does as well. At the end of the day, isn’t that who the company really works for? The fans? Isn’t it the WWE Universe who really signs their paychecks? It is HHH’s job to put on the best show possible every Monday night for the fans. With all of that being said, he is curious to hear their opinions.

Wade Barret has a mic and says he has been selected by the roster to speak about their problems. He says that the reason they all came to the WWE is because they are competitors who like to adhere certain rules and conditions. They shouldn’t be subjected to an unsafe work environment such as attacks in the parking lot because HHH can’t do his job correctly. Wade says that Trips does enjoy chaos, which is the problem. He also seems to enjoy attacking his employees.

HHH reminds the audience that this is the same Wade who along with the Nexus tried to destroy the company a year and a half ago. Referee Mike Chioda has the mic and says he has been here for 23 years, and for the first time he is afraid to come work. The attacks against the staff are unacceptable. Beth Phoenix says that on behalf of the Divas they are worried about their safety. Trips asks if anything has actually happened to the Divas. She says that they are worried something “could” happen.

Jerry Lawler gets in the ring and says that the show is spiraling out of control. Lawler agrees that this company has become a hostile work place. But, he doesn’t believe it is HHH’s fault. He agrees with CM Punk that it is someone behind the scenes pulling the strings. The problem is, somebody clearly doesn’t want HHH running the company. While Trips is in charge, things are not going to get better. Christian has a mic and calls for a vote to occur now. He speaks for the wrestlers when he votes no confidence. Chioda speaks for the referees and votes no confidence. For the Divas, Beth votes no confidence. Finally Lawler looks HHH in the eyes and says he is voting no confidence as well. Actions speak louder than words, so right now he is walking out. The locker room follows after.

Hunter is standing in the middle of the ring as he watches his friends and colleagues head to the back. Cole leaves the commentary booth. Not even Santino and Morrison stay to offer their support. Booker T leaves the table, and Jim Ross has his head in his hands. Justin Roberts and the ring crew head to the back as well. The camera crew sets down their equipment and heads to the back. The crowd is still chanting for a stunned HHH. Jim Ross is the only employee still staying and the crowd cheers, but he too gets to his feet and heads to the back – to a chorus of boos.

The crowd’s support is clearly behind Hunter. John Laurinaitis walks out onto the ramp for a loud, “You Suck” chant. Then John walks back behind the curtain. HHH mouths, “I’m sorry” to a crowd still chanting his name.

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Post by Marky Tue 04 Oct 2011, 10:29 am

Very surreal watching the final segment, I don't really know what to make of it!

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Post by Kay Fabe Tue 04 Oct 2011, 10:49 am

Why where the three most influencial guys on the roster not present at ringside?

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Post by TwisT Tue 04 Oct 2011, 11:01 am

Right, I have no idea whatsoever where this is heading but it is really interesting stuff. I presume it will mean a Vince return at some stage (Del Rio getting blasted for mentioning his name a while back proves this)

Lawler agrees that this company has become a hostile work place. But, he doesn’t believe it is HHH’s fault. He agrees with CM Punk that it is someone behind the scenes pulling the strings. The problem is, somebody clearly doesn’t want HHH running the company

Vince? Or another swerve ball. Could this mean a HHH v Vince match at Mania for control of the company?


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Post by Johnny Dice Tue 04 Oct 2011, 11:05 am

I actually thought last nights show was very poor.

Didnt enjoy it at all.

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Post by Kay Fabe Tue 04 Oct 2011, 11:10 am

I can see Punk fighting for Vince only for Vince to screw him over when he regains power

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Post by TwisT Tue 04 Oct 2011, 11:19 am

Slightly off topic.....

Did Drew and JoMo get buried? It seems like they were allowed to match Orton/Henry at least a little.

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Post by Kay Fabe Tue 04 Oct 2011, 11:38 am

I fast forwarded Orton's match, JoMo didn't het buried though, Henry dominated as you'd expect a 400 pound WHC to do but JoMo got good offence and even hit his finisher, JoMo has this perception of being buried but in 2 days he got an IC match on PPV and fought the WHC at TV, not bad going

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Post by uberkiwi Tue 04 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm

Fairly terrible show, although the ending was pretty cool I thought.

I think its one of 2 things.

Laurengitis is the one pulling the strings (hes also the anon-GM) and has now managed to turn the whole of the staff & locker room against HHH. His motives are something along the lines of "I was the Raw GM - and should of been the COO when Vince was fired (right hand man for 20 years etc etc)"

OR

Hes working for Vince to get the company back. The creative side of me thinks its the first one.

How it will resolve itself, no idea. All I know is that ill be watching again next week, so they are doing something right with me.

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Post by JoshSansom Tue 04 Oct 2011, 12:05 pm

The ending was good but the opening wasn't and we didn't have an opportunity for ADR to flaunt his title, Punk to speak, Cena to speak etc.

I liked the amount of action in the 12 man tag match but the opening matches seemed to lack direction and the idea of Henry v Big Show for the WHC at Vengence?? Surely if they are going down that route they will make it a triple threat or fatal four way match...

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Post by Guest Tue 04 Oct 2011, 1:07 pm

Wasn't the best show but it done what was needed and makes you want to keep watching to find out what happens next. Can probably see vince being behind this as he blames trips for him him losing his job, this leads to survivor series team vince v team trips


The huge tag team match was decent but I hate that minute in all 10 man + tag matches where you see every finisher. It annoys me

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Post by Kay Fabe Tue 04 Oct 2011, 1:18 pm

It's getting near the point where HHH wont be able to heel turn because it just wouldn't make sense

Miz and Truth have completely robbed all of Punks momentum

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Post by HitmanOwl Tue 04 Oct 2011, 1:23 pm

Could have made a star out of punk but he's lot a lot of steam. This storyline has been about god going over as coo,which by my estimation its about right.

Jomo gets defeated against an unprepared Cody Rhodes which has still got a suit on. Burial at its finest.

Humiliation infact.

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Post by JoshSansom Tue 04 Oct 2011, 1:26 pm

Gaffer, I think it is at that point already - can't see how they can do this now given that the entire heel element of the angle has come out against him. I am guessing that HHH is to stay as a face and that is why Punk has ben replaced with Miz/Truth for this angle.

Can see it working in his favour though, Punk got the massive rub from his initial promos and will be forever remembered for that wonderful moment, but will not be associated with the (probably) disappointing conclusion to the angle. Plus he is now a legitimate main event face selling more shirts than Cena...

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Post by JoshSansom Tue 04 Oct 2011, 1:31 pm

Plus, for Punk to be in the position of Miz/Truth, he would have had to play it as a heel/antagonist. It would not have worked otherwise and neither could they go down the route of anti-establishment v boss as with Austin. America is such a different place than it was in 1998 in terms of the outlook of people.

Austin was portrayed there as the freedom fighter standing up to oppression and defeating the man. Nowadays this same character would be viewed suspiciously as a radical, anarchist and terrorist; they would not gain the same level of support because the US at the moment is much more internalised in its viewpoint and would not see it as us against them, but them against us.

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Post by Mr H Tue 04 Oct 2011, 1:58 pm

HitmanOwl wrote:Could have made a star out of punk but he's lot a lot of steam. This storyline has been about god going over as coo,which by my estimation its about right.

I think you'll find Punk already is a star. Number one merchandise seller in the WWE, part of a 5 star rated match at MITB, and a 4 time World Champion.

Just because Raw has been centred around the whole 'COO conspiracy' thing everyone seems to think Punk has missed the boat. People seem to forget he's main evented the last 4 PPVs in a row. Makes me laugh how this time last year everyone was whining how he's being misused and stuck in mid card mediocrity, yet even after the last 5 months people still arent satisfied.

So many of you are so shorted sighted and fickle. (This isnt a direct dig at you by the way Hitmanowl)

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Post by Mr H Tue 04 Oct 2011, 2:19 pm

I also dont think it'd be at all hard to turn HHH heel. They could easily just have him 'snap' and say how he's done his damn best but it just wasnt enough. He could blame CM Punk for causing him to take his eye off the COO role and having to get in the ring at Night of Champions. If it wasnt for Punk he'd have been able to pay the roster his full attention and would have their full backing of the roster, and that he should have fired Punk. The crowd would likely boo to this and Hunter could then turn on the crowd 'Oh you dont want your anti-establishment hero to be fired, well i make the decisions around here, not you'.

Heel turn, done.

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Post by HitmanOwl Tue 04 Oct 2011, 3:24 pm

@Mr h

I'm just biased I guess because I wanted punk to hold the title a lot longer than he did. I can't imagine him being in the title scene from now until rr. Intact I have no clue who he will feud with now unless jericho pops out? I just thought punk was put into the triple threat match because they had nothing else for him.

I predict at survivor series when punk is on team cena/rock he will screw them and turn fully heel.

On a side note.

Anyone else worried Henry/adr will drop one if there titles at vengeance being though they are both heel champs? Can't imagine wwe keeping it that way for along time. Fancy Cena to get it back at vengeance. Which imo is poor booking and shows this feud with ADR is a proper joke.

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Post by Kay Fabe Tue 04 Oct 2011, 3:25 pm

How does he logically side with Miz or Truth now though if he takes this any further?

I'm not saying it can't happen but when it becomes illogical I kinda lose interest

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Post by NickisBHAFC Tue 04 Oct 2011, 4:04 pm

I acctually really enjoyed this weeks editon of Raw.

Great ending and it makes people looking forward to next weeks show.

12 man tag match was great. I was shocked it was Shaemus who got the win not cena or punk

Santino is back ! Doh

Vengence should be a good ppv

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Post by Kay Fabe Tue 04 Oct 2011, 4:57 pm

I hate multi man tag matches, there is never any structure in them and they just turn into mini singles matches, the only bit I enjoyed was at the end when the faces where celebrating and Punk was trying to sell his shoulder injury and Evan Bourne stupidly raises his hand, Punk had the pressence of mind to gimmace in pain, it sounds trivial but it's that attention to detail that makes CM Punk the best guy in the company by a mile

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Post by Jammy31 Tue 04 Oct 2011, 5:00 pm

the-gaffer wrote:I hate multi man tag matches, there is never any structure in them and they just turn into mini singles matches, the only bit I enjoyed was at the end when the faces where celebrating and Punk was trying to sell his shoulder injury and Evan Bourne stupidly raises his hand, Punk had the pressence of mind to gimmace in pain, it sounds trivial but it's that attention to detail that makes CM Punk the best guy in the company by a mile

I also felt that the tag match was quite chaotic. But then I suppose that's what RAW was all about.
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Post by JoshSansom Tue 04 Oct 2011, 5:09 pm

the-gaffer wrote:I hate multi man tag matches, there is never any structure in them and they just turn into mini singles matches, the only bit I enjoyed was at the end when the faces where celebrating and Punk was trying to sell his shoulder injury and Evan Bourne stupidly raises his hand, Punk had the pressence of mind to gimmace in pain, it sounds trivial but it's that attention to detail that makes CM Punk the best guy in the company by a mile

Often it is ridiculous because some of the competitors spend the entire match on the ring apron. At least here everyone got some ring time, all the guys were able to showcase some skills and stay fresh in the minds of the audience. In lieu of the extended end promo I think it was the right decision to have it, though I hope it does not become a repeated thing.

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Post by BigPhil Tue 04 Oct 2011, 5:17 pm

I agree with gaffers point on multi man tag matches, the match seemed to be 3 tag team matches rolled into one but I did find the match of a good standard.

The end of Raw was gripping and was very well directed throughout. It was something different and quite daring to do. It will be really interesting to see where this goes. Vincent is going to return soon no doubt, and although he is excellent I do think that he's just a bit too old now. I don't think he can wrestle anymore so I can't see him taking on HHH at all, Laurinitis on the other hand...

With regards of people believing that Punk's momentum has been halted, I wouldn't say so. He's been on Raw an awful lot recently and on this weeks show he had just as much air time as anyone else in the 12 man tag match, even Cena.

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 Tue 04 Oct 2011, 9:41 pm

My favourite part of RAW this week was in the closing segment when Beth Phoenix was on the mic trying to get Triple H's attention. She sounded like a Glasgow ned saying "hundred".

"Hunner".

"Hunner".

"Hunner".

"Hunner".

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Post by Brady12 Tue 04 Oct 2011, 10:47 pm

the-gaffer wrote:Why where the three most influencial guys on the roster not present at ringside?

Exactly what I was thinking.... No Orton, Punk or Cena during the Vote of No confidence segment why??? Surely Cena should of played the role Lawler did? Was anyone else thinking why on earth is Barrett saying what he was saying? Then obviously Trips cut him short with what everyone was thinking... Why feed Barrett one of the best guys on the stick to be totally buried by Hunter?????

All in all I liked the show... Multi tag was a good way to showcase a lot of talent which I thought worked well - Wasnt keen on the chaotic ending though. I liked the fact that Raw didn't start straight away with some authoritive figure coming out setting up the main event as we've seen for the past god knows how many weeks. Henry's push continues to be well played out, i'm ok with The Big Show coming back it'll be someone else credible he can destory.




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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Tue 04 Oct 2011, 11:00 pm

anyone else laugh when Barret was talking about how they came to compete and not be attacked after matches and Henry nodded beside him

Doh

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Post by Brady12 Tue 04 Oct 2011, 11:30 pm

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:anyone else laugh when Barret was talking about how they came to compete and not be attacked after matches and Henry nodded beside him

Doh

Not quite as hard as I did when Mark Henry kicked out after one following John Morrison's star ship pain when Booker T said 'Morrisons gonna win the title' even though it was a none title match

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Post by Fernando Tue 04 Oct 2011, 11:44 pm

anyone else slightly worried that JR got more heat walking out then most heels ever actually get.

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Post by Kay Fabe Tue 04 Oct 2011, 11:49 pm

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:anyone else laugh when Barret was talking about how they came to compete and not be attacked after matches and Henry nodded beside him

Doh
When Mike Choida was going on about being scared to go to Work the big lump was nodding away like the Churchill dog

He's broke more legs than Lucas Neill yet he thinks Miz yeah Mike Mizarian is unsafe Laugh

I do love a bit of logical continuity

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Post by Kay Fabe Tue 04 Oct 2011, 11:53 pm

Punk had to be out there, he started this whole schtick, he's the one who wants change, he's meant to be the voice of the voiceless, where was he when the voiceless needed a voice? they gave that to Barrett whose been an after thought for the entire year

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Post by ADMIN Wed 05 Oct 2011, 12:06 am

In regards to why Cena/Orton/Punk weren't at ringside:

Word is that WWE was expecting the fans to boo the Superstars who walked out and didn’t want certain ones getting heat from the crowd.

And in regards to CM Punk getting overlooked:

The company is also looking for film ideas to place CM Punk into. They plan to do a lot with Punk in the upcoming year, due to the company being impressed with how much merchandise he has moved in the recent months. There are plans to move Punk into prominent roles moving forward
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Post by VoiceOfTheVoiceless Wed 05 Oct 2011, 12:44 am

The 4 superstars not at ringside were Orton Cena Punk and Sheamus....therefore I believe it will go like this...

John Laurenitus will take control of Raw as from next week and then eventually it will unfold that he has been behind everything thats been going on because he is jelous of the position triple H was given by the board and Triple H will then challenge him to a 5 v 5 survivor series match with the winner getting to be the COO most likely the teams been:

Triple H, Cena, Punk, Sheamus & Orton v Miz, Truth, Barrett, Christian and Nash possibly.

Seems like this could be a likely route to go down

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Post by Kay Fabe Wed 05 Oct 2011, 1:22 am

Rock/Cena are seemingly confirmed to team together at Survivor Series so expect them to be on the same team, also a heel team would have Del Rio and Ziggler in it IMO

As for the reason Cena/Punk/Orton wasn't out, it's weak assed, I knew that was the reason, Sheamus and Kelly weren't their either

Why should the heels be more peed than the faces? Out of the 6 championships in the WWE five of them are held by heels.

CM Punk should definitely have been the one opposing Triple H for the reasons already listed, no-ones another superman Cena type of good guy, they want a passionate fan of the business who believes he talks for the every man, that's what's got him so huge, he shouldn't be protected, Punk can't be all white, he is all about those edgy shades of gray

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Post by uberkiwi Wed 05 Oct 2011, 9:07 am

Punk said on twitter this morning (kayfabe for once) that its 'pussified' to walk out, and that people should stay and fight instead thats why he wasnt there.

Or something.

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Post by Jammy31 Wed 05 Oct 2011, 11:06 am

Well, if they didn't want faces being boo'd then why did they make the likes of Alex Riley, Kofi Kingston and Evan Bourne walk out? I know they aren't the biggest faces, but the crowd always loves them. Makes no logical sense to me. At least two of the cameramen stayed to film the last parts of it Wink
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Post by uberkiwi Wed 05 Oct 2011, 11:21 am

I like the fact the spotlight guy didnt go, he backed HHH til the end!

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Post by Celtic Warrior Wed 05 Oct 2011, 11:28 am

What is the likelihood of someone attacking the spotlight operator though?

He must have the safest environment in WWE. Unless Sting is joining WWE and will beat him up in the rafters...

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Post by JoshSansom Wed 05 Oct 2011, 11:37 am

Jammy31 wrote:Well, if they didn't want faces being boo'd then why did they make the likes of Alex Riley, Kofi Kingston and Evan Bourne walk out? I know they aren't the biggest faces, but the crowd always loves them. Makes no logical sense to me. At least two of the cameramen stayed to film the last parts of it Wink

Because, frankly, no-one cares about them.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Thu 06 Oct 2011, 9:44 am

CM Punk made up with Triple H after their match. He wouldn't give a vote of no confidence because he's the one who believes in the conspiracy.

Anyone else think this is Stephanie McMahon NOT Vince? Stephanie may hold a grudge because Hunter was chosen to be COO, who is only family because of her.

I think that would be awesome

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Post by Marky Thu 06 Oct 2011, 9:46 am

Electric Demon wrote:CM Punk made up with Triple H after their match. He wouldn't give a vote of no confidence because he's the one who believes in the conspiracy.

Anyone else think this is Stephanie McMahon NOT Vince? Stephanie may hold a grudge because Hunter was chosen to be COO, who is only family because of her.

I think that would be awesome

Along the same lines, I was thinking it could be Shane McMahon, believing he's the rightful heir to Vince's throne, not HHH. Vince McMahon gave the company to his son Vince K. McMahon, and Shane is next in line.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Thu 06 Oct 2011, 4:28 pm

That would work out to profection Marky. But the only problem is shane doesnt work for the wwe anymore

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Post by Marky Thu 06 Oct 2011, 6:01 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:That would work out to profection Marky. But the only problem is shane doesnt work for the wwe anymore

I know he doesn't. But it doesn't mean he's not returning.

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Post by JoshSansom Thu 06 Oct 2011, 6:06 pm

Marky wrote:
NickisBHAFC wrote:That would work out to profection Marky. But the only problem is shane doesnt work for the wwe anymore

I know he doesn't. But it doesn't mean he's not returning.

True, though I think that he is trying to make his way in the world of "real" sports. Doesn't he have some links to Chubby Chandler's golfing group?

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