Modern society and rugby Union.
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Modern society and rugby Union.
First topic message reminder :
Modern rugby with all its complexities and the number of people involved with the game today can be compared to modern society in many ways.
Referees.
They are similar to a mother in real life. They must monitor the kids at home, ensure that they stay within the rules agreed upon by the parents of the household. Ever wondered why so many referees have those squeaky voices?
Well it is because like mothers they easily lose control of a situation at home when the kids are misbehaving. Hysterical outbursts are par for the course, and then do not forget mothers have their favourites. To their credit they try not too, but in reality we all have seen our younger siblings get away with a lot more than we did. We often feel their rulings are unfair and they always believe the favourites aren’t capable of doing something wrong.
These “angels” aren’t always very popular amongst the rest of the siblings. Ever tried to talk to your mother when she lost all patience? She simply won’t listen.
The IRB
Well they are like the fathers, they have totally forgotten they were kids once, they have no idea of what kids do in the modern era. They don’t like the new age music and are often totally electronically retarded. They want to enforce rules they have no idea of how it works in modern society, they expect you to abide by rules their ancestors thought up.
They love to give out punishment, they favour the sibling who excels in sport. They must always be seen to take the side of mothers, mothers are never wrong in their eyes. Mothers are the holy grail of the family, put on a pedestal, not to be touched and demands respect even if they are abusive or unfit. Fathers are blinded by their “beauty”. They are oblivious to their flawes.
The Sponsors.
They are akin to that rich uncle you have in the family, have no kids of their own and have often never been married. You see them with a different girl friend every other year. They love to show how much money they have, drive around in flashy cars and often have their names inscribed on their number plates or some old cliché. “I did it”, “I am the world”, Me, myself and I”. They have big corporate jobs and love to brag. If you disagree with them they will rather splash their money at your other siblings because you disappointed them.
The coach.
Most likely your eldest sibling, been there, done that. But beware there are two types of older siblings. The one has really not done anything but acts as if he knows everything, has an attitude and often will say “It is my way or the highway”.
The preferred older sibling is the one that actually cares, has been there and done that. Will always have sound advice of how to handle mother, father and how to approach any problem.
The players.
There are a number of different siblings in any household. Those that are the stars, the ones who turn anything they touch to gold. They usually get all the attention and are often the favourites. They tend to get away with murder.
Then there are the bullies, they don’t necessarily bully all the time, but once or twice are enough to have them being singled out every time there is a fight. They will be deemed guilty by virtue of being in close proximity.
You also have the instigators. They will often “challenge” you to do something you may not, they could also be the ones who will look for trouble with the neighbour’s kids and then run away, and let’s the bully get in trouble.
You can always see the emo kid from a distance. They would be broody and quiet. They often have a bit of an inferiority complex. You need to tell them how good they are every morning before school.
There is also the dependable kid. He will do the hard work. Clean the pool, mow the lawn, most likely have a paper rout to earn extra money.
Lastly, but not least. The intelligent one. The one that gives advice, makes decisions and generally will be the leader of the clan. Siblings will listen to him as he is a natural born leader.
Supporters.
Usually the neighbour's smaller kids. They will have a hero worship for the sibling who excels in sport. They often become irritatingly obsessed and refuse to see anything negative about their hero. They will defend their hero with vigor, even if he is wrong. They seldom become disillusioned about their hero and only when they grow up and mature a little, do they realise he was just another guy. Only then can they remember with fondness of the times they acted foolish in defending their hero.
So there you have it, modern society and the sport of rugby union.
Modern rugby with all its complexities and the number of people involved with the game today can be compared to modern society in many ways.
Referees.
They are similar to a mother in real life. They must monitor the kids at home, ensure that they stay within the rules agreed upon by the parents of the household. Ever wondered why so many referees have those squeaky voices?
Well it is because like mothers they easily lose control of a situation at home when the kids are misbehaving. Hysterical outbursts are par for the course, and then do not forget mothers have their favourites. To their credit they try not too, but in reality we all have seen our younger siblings get away with a lot more than we did. We often feel their rulings are unfair and they always believe the favourites aren’t capable of doing something wrong.
These “angels” aren’t always very popular amongst the rest of the siblings. Ever tried to talk to your mother when she lost all patience? She simply won’t listen.
The IRB
Well they are like the fathers, they have totally forgotten they were kids once, they have no idea of what kids do in the modern era. They don’t like the new age music and are often totally electronically retarded. They want to enforce rules they have no idea of how it works in modern society, they expect you to abide by rules their ancestors thought up.
They love to give out punishment, they favour the sibling who excels in sport. They must always be seen to take the side of mothers, mothers are never wrong in their eyes. Mothers are the holy grail of the family, put on a pedestal, not to be touched and demands respect even if they are abusive or unfit. Fathers are blinded by their “beauty”. They are oblivious to their flawes.
The Sponsors.
They are akin to that rich uncle you have in the family, have no kids of their own and have often never been married. You see them with a different girl friend every other year. They love to show how much money they have, drive around in flashy cars and often have their names inscribed on their number plates or some old cliché. “I did it”, “I am the world”, Me, myself and I”. They have big corporate jobs and love to brag. If you disagree with them they will rather splash their money at your other siblings because you disappointed them.
The coach.
Most likely your eldest sibling, been there, done that. But beware there are two types of older siblings. The one has really not done anything but acts as if he knows everything, has an attitude and often will say “It is my way or the highway”.
The preferred older sibling is the one that actually cares, has been there and done that. Will always have sound advice of how to handle mother, father and how to approach any problem.
The players.
There are a number of different siblings in any household. Those that are the stars, the ones who turn anything they touch to gold. They usually get all the attention and are often the favourites. They tend to get away with murder.
Then there are the bullies, they don’t necessarily bully all the time, but once or twice are enough to have them being singled out every time there is a fight. They will be deemed guilty by virtue of being in close proximity.
You also have the instigators. They will often “challenge” you to do something you may not, they could also be the ones who will look for trouble with the neighbour’s kids and then run away, and let’s the bully get in trouble.
You can always see the emo kid from a distance. They would be broody and quiet. They often have a bit of an inferiority complex. You need to tell them how good they are every morning before school.
There is also the dependable kid. He will do the hard work. Clean the pool, mow the lawn, most likely have a paper rout to earn extra money.
Lastly, but not least. The intelligent one. The one that gives advice, makes decisions and generally will be the leader of the clan. Siblings will listen to him as he is a natural born leader.
Supporters.
Usually the neighbour's smaller kids. They will have a hero worship for the sibling who excels in sport. They often become irritatingly obsessed and refuse to see anything negative about their hero. They will defend their hero with vigor, even if he is wrong. They seldom become disillusioned about their hero and only when they grow up and mature a little, do they realise he was just another guy. Only then can they remember with fondness of the times they acted foolish in defending their hero.
So there you have it, modern society and the sport of rugby union.
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Re: Modern society and rugby Union.
PJHolybloke wrote:biltongbek wrote:tell me more?PJHolybloke wrote:biltongbek wrote:With all the dwarves flying around, the neighbour with the Slk, there should be plenty young referees around, hopefully one of them will take my son under their wing for some one on one sessions
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Down our fictictitious street there's a big family that are rock-hard and actually have three houses between them, one of the households has just fell out with the other two for consistently telling them how it is, the other two didn't like being told how it is and decided to set the other one's garage on fire.....
Well, it's like this (let's just call them house A, B & C) house C has a lot of people living in it and they all contribute to running their house but also help out with the general bills in houses A & B as they're all part of the same family and they like to help because they can. Houses A & B are a bit closer to each other in terms of family as they are brother and sister where as the family in house C is just a cousin.
Houses A & B have family members that are quite successful, but there aren't as many members contributing to the cost of running their homes which is why they rely on contributions from house C.
Just recently houses B & C had a row and in order to mediate in the row house A sent in an impartial family member to try and sort things out amicably, as it turns out the person they sent wasn't very impartial at all and ended up shoiting through the letterbox of house C and burning down their garage whilst houses A & B had a private party all to themselves.
I'm not sure how it's all going to end up, but I think house C may stop contributing so freely to the other two, especially as they now have some back-up from some cousins on their mothers side that have just moved into the street.....
You Genius PJ! That IS the World in microcosm. House C is China right now.Brilliant
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Re: Modern society and rugby Union.
Gibson wrote:PJHolybloke wrote:biltongbek wrote:tell me more?PJHolybloke wrote:biltongbek wrote:With all the dwarves flying around, the neighbour with the Slk, there should be plenty young referees around, hopefully one of them will take my son under their wing for some one on one sessions
.
Down our fictictitious street there's a big family that are rock-hard and actually have three houses between them, one of the households has just fell out with the other two for consistently telling them how it is, the other two didn't like being told how it is and decided to set the other one's garage on fire.....
Well, it's like this (let's just call them house A, B & C) house C has a lot of people living in it and they all contribute to running their house but also help out with the general bills in houses A & B as they're all part of the same family and they like to help because they can. Houses A & B are a bit closer to each other in terms of family as they are brother and sister where as the family in house C is just a cousin.
Houses A & B have family members that are quite successful, but there aren't as many members contributing to the cost of running their homes which is why they rely on contributions from house C.
Just recently houses B & C had a row and in order to mediate in the row house A sent in an impartial family member to try and sort things out amicably, as it turns out the person they sent wasn't very impartial at all and ended up shoiting through the letterbox of house C and burning down their garage whilst houses A & B had a private party all to themselves.
I'm not sure how it's all going to end up, but I think house C may stop contributing so freely to the other two, especially as they now have some back-up from some cousins on their mothers side that have just moved into the street.....
You Genius PJ! That IS the World in microcosm. House C is China right now.Brilliant
Ya daft fecker. Or is it me? Well one of us is nuts and the other is plain crazy.
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Re: Modern society and rugby Union.
So when is the cousin moving in?
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True, but it helps deal with the madness of it all. Gorra laff.
Anyway, we're grand Prince Charles (BEEB News now) - is a bigger looney than both of us put together and has the Answer. Environmentally sensitive reed mats. Grand.
Happier now.
Hold on a cotton pickin. Who's moved into House D? No one told me about House D. North Africa yeah? Thought so. Bloody Saffers started all this gig. Dem and de feckin Greeks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iheZM6VBJfE&feature=player_detailpage
Anyway, we're grand Prince Charles (BEEB News now) - is a bigger looney than both of us put together and has the Answer. Environmentally sensitive reed mats. Grand.
Happier now.
Hold on a cotton pickin. Who's moved into House D? No one told me about House D. North Africa yeah? Thought so. Bloody Saffers started all this gig. Dem and de feckin Greeks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iheZM6VBJfE&feature=player_detailpage
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Re: Modern society and rugby Union.
biltongbek wrote:So when is the cousin moving in?
Well there are a few legal technicalities to sort out on the conveyancing side, so there is a possibility for 2012 but I expect a statement from their lawyers in February stating that it wont be until 2013 due to a structural problem that will require the underpinning of their foundations.
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What then happens to the south americans who are moving?
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Re: Modern society and rugby Union.
Gibson wrote:True, but it helps deal with the madness of it all. Gorra laff.
Anyway, we're grand Prince Charles (BEEB News now) - is a bigger looney than both of us put together and has the Answer. Environmentally sensitive reed mats. Grand.
Happier now.
Hold on a cotton pickin. Who's moved into House D? No one told me about House D. North Africa yeah? Thought so. Bloody Saffers started all this gig. Dem and de feckin Greeks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iheZM6VBJfE&feature=player_detailpage
Yeah, dem Greeks invented gayness y'know?
What's with reed mats? Is it somethin to do with Lou's hair?
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biltongbek wrote:What then happens to the south americans who are moving?
They'll be in in time for Christmas. But I've heard the most important development is that house C wont have so long to travel to the parties and houses A & B will have to come in from the cold in order to avoid some punitive fiscal measures.
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PJHolybloke wrote:biltongbek wrote:tell me more?PJHolybloke wrote:biltongbek wrote:With all the dwarves flying around, the neighbour with the Slk, there should be plenty young referees around, hopefully one of them will take my son under their wing for some one on one sessions
.
Down our fictictitious street there's a big family that are rock-hard and actually have three houses between them, one of the households has just fell out with the other two for consistently telling them how it is, the other two didn't like being told how it is and decided to set the other one's garage on fire.....
Well, it's like this (let's just call them house A, B & C) house C has a lot of people living in it and they all contribute to running their house but also help out with the general bills in houses A & B as they're all part of the same family and they like to help because they can. Houses A & B are a bit closer to each other in terms of family as they are brother and sister where as the family in house C is just a cousin.
Houses A & B have family members that are quite successful, but there aren't as many members contributing to the cost of running their homes which is why they rely on contributions from house C.
Just recently houses B & C had a row and in order to mediate in the row house A sent in an impartial family member to try and sort things out amicably, as it turns out the person they sent wasn't very impartial at all and ended up shoiting through the letterbox of house C and burning down their garage whilst houses A & B had a private party all to themselves.
I'm not sure how it's all going to end up, but I think house C may stop contributing so freely to the other two, especially as they now have some back-up from some cousins on their mothers side that have just moved into the street.....
You would have to guess there's either a redevelopment of the neighbourhood on its way, or House C will move back into that investment property its father left to them many years ago. House's A & B have had a serious souring of relationship in recent times, but are unpopular so will be stuck with few options other than each other. I'm not sure how that is going to work.
If it all goes bad, the shame will be for House D who are first home buyers and have been looking for a place to call home for many moons. Perhaps although only cousins, House C will have so much money left over they will be able to slip a spare fiddy or two D's way. Maybe even offer them the spare block next door.
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Re: Modern society and rugby Union.
boomeranga wrote:PJHolybloke wrote:biltongbek wrote:tell me more?PJHolybloke wrote:biltongbek wrote:With all the dwarves flying around, the neighbour with the Slk, there should be plenty young referees around, hopefully one of them will take my son under their wing for some one on one sessions
.
Down our fictictitious street there's a big family that are rock-hard and actually have three houses between them, one of the households has just fell out with the other two for consistently telling them how it is, the other two didn't like being told how it is and decided to set the other one's garage on fire.....
Well, it's like this (let's just call them house A, B & C) house C has a lot of people living in it and they all contribute to running their house but also help out with the general bills in houses A & B as they're all part of the same family and they like to help because they can. Houses A & B are a bit closer to each other in terms of family as they are brother and sister where as the family in house C is just a cousin.
Houses A & B have family members that are quite successful, but there aren't as many members contributing to the cost of running their homes which is why they rely on contributions from house C.
Just recently houses B & C had a row and in order to mediate in the row house A sent in an impartial family member to try and sort things out amicably, as it turns out the person they sent wasn't very impartial at all and ended up shoiting through the letterbox of house C and burning down their garage whilst houses A & B had a private party all to themselves.
I'm not sure how it's all going to end up, but I think house C may stop contributing so freely to the other two, especially as they now have some back-up from some cousins on their mothers side that have just moved into the street.....
You would have to guess there's either a redevelopment of the neighbourhood on its way, or House C will move back into that investment property its father left to them many years ago. House's A & B have had a serious souring of relationship in recent times, but are unpopular so will be stuck with few options other than each other. I'm not sure how that is going to work.
If it all goes bad, the shame will be for House D who are first home buyers and have been looking for a place to call home for many moons. Perhaps although only cousins, House C will have so much money left over they will be able to slip a spare fiddy or two D's way. Maybe even offer them the spare block next door.
On it like a bonnet.
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Interesting reading PJ, I see an article formulating in my mind. However some research need to be done. By the looks of it House see can only move out of the neighbourhood in 2015, the father has a work contract until then.
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Surely the IRB are social services? Do gooders with the best of intentions but in practice inept, missing obvious problem cases (baby R McC) but then coming down like a tonne of bricks on the French family who live next to family A, just because they looked over the fence at family A folk dancing.
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biltongbek wrote:Interesting reading PJ, I see an article formulating in my mind. However some research need to be done. By the looks of it House see can only move out of the neighbourhood in 2015, the father has a work contract until then.
Go for it bud write that article, I can barely wait. You've started something with such a great analogy, I can see your theme running and running. I may even plagiarise it myself, with proper acknowledgement and your permission of course?
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Glas a du wrote:Surely the IRB are social services? Do gooders with the best of intentions but in practice inept, missing obvious problem cases (baby R McC) but then coming down like a tonne of bricks on the French family who live next to family A, just because they looked over the fence at family A folk dancing.
I think it only works with the IRB in the parent role Glas, I think Paddy O'Brien is your typical hand-wringing do-gooder social service type perhaps?
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Pj of course you can use it, you have helped contributing to the end result. Of course I think there is room for expansion on the role players as well, still some work to be done though
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