Ricky Hatton Becomes A Trainer
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Ricky Hatton Becomes A Trainer
talked to buncey about it today and is definitely becoming a trainer? think he will be a good one?
he also wanted to make sure that everyone realised he would never fight again after rumours about him and katsidis.
he also wanted to make sure that everyone realised he would never fight again after rumours about him and katsidis.
AlexHuckerby- Posts : 9201
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I can imagine him saying now:
"You hands are too high. Start dropping them a bit more and defend with your face"
Only joking
Good luck to him
A lot of cornermen are very charismatic so he should have that bit sorted already
"You hands are too high. Start dropping them a bit more and defend with your face"
Only joking
Good luck to him
A lot of cornermen are very charismatic so he should have that bit sorted already
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It will be interesting to see. It quite often seems to be the way that the old adage that those that can't teach is true. If you are naturally very good at something, and it comes easy to you, it can be difficult and frustrating to try and teach it to someone that finds it more difficult. A guy like Roach was a fairly average boxer, but a great teacher, likewise the great Eddy Futch was a better coach than fighter.
That said I reckon that Ricky will make a good cornerman-he'll be a good motivator, and have the right level of compassion for his fighter- can't see him allowing someone to take a beating for the sake of it.
That said I reckon that Ricky will make a good cornerman-he'll be a good motivator, and have the right level of compassion for his fighter- can't see him allowing someone to take a beating for the sake of it.
horizontalhero- Posts : 938
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Good motivator, possibly. Good trainer - I'm not so sure. I don't know why, but this puts me in mind of that fateful decision of Kettering Town to hand the managerial reins to Paul Gascoigne for 39 days. I don't see how someone who was notorious for his indiscipline outside the field of combat can be expected to impose order on those under his tutelage. I'll be interested to see how Ricky handles it.
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maybe a tad harsh lets not forget when hatton was in a training camp he worked incredibly hard.
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Training is a full-time occupation, Alex. Hatton is going to be expected to say "do as I say, not as I did." He can't just be one of the boys to succeed in this job, and I wonder whether he will be temperamentally suited to the role.
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I can't see this being a success with the Gascoigne example summing it up perfectly for me. He needs to stick to after dinner speaking, which I believe he is a natural at
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after kebab speaking you mean?
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The captain makes a fair point, Hatton's going to find it tough to not be one of the boys and impose discipline.
That aside, hard to say whether or not he'll make a decent trainer or not as, like football managers, there doesn't seem to be an exact science in picking who is going to be good at it or not. However, I will be very surprised if he makes a success of it over a sustained period of time. I tihnk Ricky would be better suited putting his name to a gym and being the name that attracts sponsors and investors rather than being on the front line training fighters.
That aside, hard to say whether or not he'll make a decent trainer or not as, like football managers, there doesn't seem to be an exact science in picking who is going to be good at it or not. However, I will be very surprised if he makes a success of it over a sustained period of time. I tihnk Ricky would be better suited putting his name to a gym and being the name that attracts sponsors and investors rather than being on the front line training fighters.
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he did talk about it being the happiest he had been since he quit fightingt also.
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I can't see Ricky doing too great to be honest, never heard much about Billy Graham, wonder what he's up to these days.
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capatin make one points about why he might not make it, my other worry would be teaching other ways than he fought him self. ricky never had the ability to swap and change his tactics aswell as some and could see all his training being down the line of pressure fighting like himself whether your suited or not.
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I don't think Hatton ever had enough technical skills to pass on, for instance what kind of tips advice can he give about jabbing, defense etc. It's alright if he has a brawler, but how does he train a technical boxer.
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People forget that Hatton could box when he chose to, it's just that as his career progressed and especially after he beat Kostya, he abandoned that aspect in favour of a more crowd pleasing style.
His best boxing performance would possibly be against Ben Tackie when he ws controlled and disciplined throughout.
It will be fun watching Ricky shadow boxing at ringside though.
His best boxing performance would possibly be against Ben Tackie when he ws controlled and disciplined throughout.
It will be fun watching Ricky shadow boxing at ringside though.
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Part of me has always suspected that Hatton's desire to train now that his career is over is simply a product of him not being able to sit still for more than ten minutes, personally. I'm not all that sure he'd take it seriously enough to be a real success in it, and as others have already said, can a man so famous for his lack of discipline between fights really drive it home in another fighter?
Still, it will be interesting to say the least. My gut feeling is that promoting, rather than training, should be Hatton's primary focus from now on, but we shouldn't write him off just yet, I suppose.
Still, it will be interesting to say the least. My gut feeling is that promoting, rather than training, should be Hatton's primary focus from now on, but we shouldn't write him off just yet, I suppose.
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he basically said that promoting wasnt fulfilling enough.
to be fair just because didnt really adapt a lot of skill in his own boxing doesnt mean that he cant teach those skills.
to be fair just because didnt really adapt a lot of skill in his own boxing doesnt mean that he cant teach those skills.
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For what it's worth, if dedicated I think he could be very good.
He wasn't the most skilled fighter and worked very hard to get in shape (due to the fact he had gotten so out of shape!).
Think he could possibly get his fighters passionate, in good shape and with very good basics.
The biggest test to him becoming a great trainer is whether he can read an opposition fighter enough to come up with a game plan or chagne things when plan A isn't working.
He wasn't the most skilled fighter and worked very hard to get in shape (due to the fact he had gotten so out of shape!).
Think he could possibly get his fighters passionate, in good shape and with very good basics.
The biggest test to him becoming a great trainer is whether he can read an opposition fighter enough to come up with a game plan or chagne things when plan A isn't working.
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But he was still a top fighter for his weight division. I honestly don't think he will be very successful as a trainer; his character will impose too much on young fighters and they will have little say on how to go about their tactics.to be fair just because didnt really adapt a lot of skill in his own boxing doesnt mean that he cant teach those skills.
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Yeah and to his credit Huw whenever I've seen him on ringside etc. He seems to have a very good understanding of things and seems to have a good grasp. Let's not forget as to how long he was a boxer himself, you do pick up a few things in those times, and a 2 weight world champion to boot and fought the top 2 fighters of our era (Albeit ended very badly) so you know, I reckon all the technical knowledge should really be fine.
The only concerns that I have is if he doesn't know how to control his fighter and not be too pally with him, that being said, Adam Booth and David Haye - George Groves seem very pally, so maybe that method can work with the right fighters.
A lot of it does depend on how dedicated the fighters themselves are, though the ones that are a bit more loose he might not be able to put the reigns on them, but all in all I think he will be ok, a lot of it depends on who walks through your door to be fair...
The only concerns that I have is if he doesn't know how to control his fighter and not be too pally with him, that being said, Adam Booth and David Haye - George Groves seem very pally, so maybe that method can work with the right fighters.
A lot of it does depend on how dedicated the fighters themselves are, though the ones that are a bit more loose he might not be able to put the reigns on them, but all in all I think he will be ok, a lot of it depends on who walks through your door to be fair...
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What part in his character makes you say that?Josiah Maiestas wrote:But he was still a top fighter for his weight division. I honestly don't think he will be very successful as a trainer; his character will impose too much on young fighters and they will have little say on how to go about their tactics.to be fair just because didnt really adapt a lot of skill in his own boxing doesnt mean that he cant teach those skills.
Has always seemed very open minded and fair.
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AlexHuckerby wrote:What part in his character makes you say that?Josiah Maiestas wrote:But he was still a top fighter for his weight division. I honestly don't think he will be very successful as a trainer; his character will impose too much on young fighters and they will have little say on how to go about their tactics.to be fair just because didnt really adapt a lot of skill in his own boxing doesnt mean that he cant teach those skills.
Has always seemed very open minded and fair.
I agree Hatton is a relaxed guy. Its people like Jim McDonnell who come across as imposing. Hatton is the opposite
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Just hope nobody let's him train a protege on how to fight southpaws...
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can see it nowTRUSSMAN66 wrote:Just hope nobody let's him train a protege on how to fight southpaws...
"now what i found an ickle bit better was putting me hands down and defending with me face..."
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Hatton had charisma? I never noticed.Steffan wrote:A lot of cornermen are very charismatic so he should have that bit sorted already
Good luck to him though I wonder how long he'll last.
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harsh atila... he was a pretty funny guy at times i thought.
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And here is Ricky Hatton as a Trainer...
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thats poor steffan...
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