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Post by AlexHuckerby Mon 07 Nov 2011, 11:49 pm

talked to buncey about it today and is definitely becoming a trainer? think he will be a good one?

he also wanted to make sure that everyone realised he would never fight again after rumours about him and katsidis.

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Post by Steffan Tue 08 Nov 2011, 12:15 am

I can imagine him saying now:

"You hands are too high. Start dropping them a bit more and defend with your face" Laugh

Only joking

Good luck to him

A lot of cornermen are very charismatic so he should have that bit sorted already

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Post by horizontalhero Tue 08 Nov 2011, 12:49 am

It will be interesting to see. It quite often seems to be the way that the old adage that those that can't teach is true. If you are naturally very good at something, and it comes easy to you, it can be difficult and frustrating to try and teach it to someone that finds it more difficult. A guy like Roach was a fairly average boxer, but a great teacher, likewise the great Eddy Futch was a better coach than fighter.
That said I reckon that Ricky will make a good cornerman-he'll be a good motivator, and have the right level of compassion for his fighter- can't see him allowing someone to take a beating for the sake of it.

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Post by captain carrantuohil Tue 08 Nov 2011, 8:04 am

Good motivator, possibly. Good trainer - I'm not so sure. I don't know why, but this puts me in mind of that fateful decision of Kettering Town to hand the managerial reins to Paul Gascoigne for 39 days. I don't see how someone who was notorious for his indiscipline outside the field of combat can be expected to impose order on those under his tutelage. I'll be interested to see how Ricky handles it.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 08 Nov 2011, 8:06 am

maybe a tad harsh lets not forget when hatton was in a training camp he worked incredibly hard.

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Post by captain carrantuohil Tue 08 Nov 2011, 8:08 am

Training is a full-time occupation, Alex. Hatton is going to be expected to say "do as I say, not as I did." He can't just be one of the boys to succeed in this job, and I wonder whether he will be temperamentally suited to the role.

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Post by bhb001 Tue 08 Nov 2011, 8:12 am

I can't see this being a success with the Gascoigne example summing it up perfectly for me. He needs to stick to after dinner speaking, which I believe he is a natural at

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 08 Nov 2011, 8:45 am

after kebab speaking you mean?

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Post by superflyweight Tue 08 Nov 2011, 9:48 am

The captain makes a fair point, Hatton's going to find it tough to not be one of the boys and impose discipline.

That aside, hard to say whether or not he'll make a decent trainer or not as, like football managers, there doesn't seem to be an exact science in picking who is going to be good at it or not. However, I will be very surprised if he makes a success of it over a sustained period of time. I tihnk Ricky would be better suited putting his name to a gym and being the name that attracts sponsors and investors rather than being on the front line training fighters.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 08 Nov 2011, 9:58 am

he did talk about it being the happiest he had been since he quit fightingt also.

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Post by The Galveston Giant Tue 08 Nov 2011, 10:06 am

I can't see Ricky doing too great to be honest, never heard much about Billy Graham, wonder what he's up to these days.
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Post by compelling and rich Tue 08 Nov 2011, 10:48 am

capatin make one points about why he might not make it, my other worry would be teaching other ways than he fought him self. ricky never had the ability to swap and change his tactics aswell as some and could see all his training being down the line of pressure fighting like himself whether your suited or not.

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Post by The Galveston Giant Tue 08 Nov 2011, 11:43 am

I don't think Hatton ever had enough technical skills to pass on, for instance what kind of tips advice can he give about jabbing, defense etc. It's alright if he has a brawler, but how does he train a technical boxer.
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Post by Guest Tue 08 Nov 2011, 11:48 am

People forget that Hatton could box when he chose to, it's just that as his career progressed and especially after he beat Kostya, he abandoned that aspect in favour of a more crowd pleasing style.

His best boxing performance would possibly be against Ben Tackie when he ws controlled and disciplined throughout.

It will be fun watching Ricky shadow boxing at ringside though.

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Post by 88Chris05 Tue 08 Nov 2011, 12:15 pm

Part of me has always suspected that Hatton's desire to train now that his career is over is simply a product of him not being able to sit still for more than ten minutes, personally. I'm not all that sure he'd take it seriously enough to be a real success in it, and as others have already said, can a man so famous for his lack of discipline between fights really drive it home in another fighter?

Still, it will be interesting to say the least. My gut feeling is that promoting, rather than training, should be Hatton's primary focus from now on, but we shouldn't write him off just yet, I suppose.
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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 08 Nov 2011, 12:34 pm

he basically said that promoting wasnt fulfilling enough.

to be fair just because didnt really adapt a lot of skill in his own boxing doesnt mean that he cant teach those skills.

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Post by huw Tue 08 Nov 2011, 1:17 pm

For what it's worth, if dedicated I think he could be very good.

He wasn't the most skilled fighter and worked very hard to get in shape (due to the fact he had gotten so out of shape!).

Think he could possibly get his fighters passionate, in good shape and with very good basics.

The biggest test to him becoming a great trainer is whether he can read an opposition fighter enough to come up with a game plan or chagne things when plan A isn't working.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Tue 08 Nov 2011, 1:24 pm

to be fair just because didnt really adapt a lot of skill in his own boxing doesnt mean that he cant teach those skills.
But he was still a top fighter for his weight division. I honestly don't think he will be very successful as a trainer; his character will impose too much on young fighters and they will have little say on how to go about their tactics.
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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 08 Nov 2011, 1:25 pm

Yeah and to his credit Huw whenever I've seen him on ringside etc. He seems to have a very good understanding of things and seems to have a good grasp. Let's not forget as to how long he was a boxer himself, you do pick up a few things in those times, and a 2 weight world champion to boot and fought the top 2 fighters of our era (Albeit ended very badly) so you know, I reckon all the technical knowledge should really be fine.


The only concerns that I have is if he doesn't know how to control his fighter and not be too pally with him, that being said, Adam Booth and David Haye - George Groves seem very pally, so maybe that method can work with the right fighters.

A lot of it does depend on how dedicated the fighters themselves are, though the ones that are a bit more loose he might not be able to put the reigns on them, but all in all I think he will be ok, a lot of it depends on who walks through your door to be fair...

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 08 Nov 2011, 1:26 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:
to be fair just because didnt really adapt a lot of skill in his own boxing doesnt mean that he cant teach those skills.
But he was still a top fighter for his weight division. I honestly don't think he will be very successful as a trainer; his character will impose too much on young fighters and they will have little say on how to go about their tactics.
What part in his character makes you say that?
Has always seemed very open minded and fair.

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Post by Steffan Tue 08 Nov 2011, 2:10 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:
Josiah Maiestas wrote:
to be fair just because didnt really adapt a lot of skill in his own boxing doesnt mean that he cant teach those skills.
But he was still a top fighter for his weight division. I honestly don't think he will be very successful as a trainer; his character will impose too much on young fighters and they will have little say on how to go about their tactics.
What part in his character makes you say that?
Has always seemed very open minded and fair.

I agree Hatton is a relaxed guy. Its people like Jim McDonnell who come across as imposing. Hatton is the opposite

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 08 Nov 2011, 7:46 pm

Just hope nobody let's him train a protege on how to fight southpaws...

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 08 Nov 2011, 8:04 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Just hope nobody let's him train a protege on how to fight southpaws...
can see it now
"now what i found an ickle bit better was putting me hands down and defending with me face..."

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Post by Atila Tue 08 Nov 2011, 8:09 pm

Steffan wrote:A lot of cornermen are very charismatic so he should have that bit sorted already
Hatton had charisma? I never noticed.

Good luck to him though I wonder how long he'll last.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 08 Nov 2011, 10:43 pm

harsh atila... he was a pretty funny guy at times i thought.

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Post by Steffan Wed 09 Nov 2011, 1:17 am

And here is Ricky Hatton as a Trainer...

Spoiler:

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Post by AlexHuckerby Wed 09 Nov 2011, 3:33 pm

thats poor steffan...

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