when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
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when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
even the disgusting WBC managed to get their bit right!
vxrandall- Posts : 71
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
Is it really that important??
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
Dawson now is ranked nuber one...ONE. That means hes the best
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
It doesn't mean anything you don't want it to.....
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
You people aint gonna see no Hopkins rematch...because he gonna retire
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
not really my point. dawson didnt beat him so the records shouldnt show it. hopkins deserves to retire as the lineal champion.
vxrandall- Posts : 71
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
Shouldn't they have waited for the commission to make their decision first?vxrandall wrote:even the disgusting WBC managed to get their bit right!
It's going to be funny if the CSAC let the result stand.
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Atila- Posts : 1712
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
I still don't see why lineal champ is that important..
Is Hoppo going to care or suffer!!! No his legacy is solid......and the hOF sealed..
Is Hoppo going to care or suffer!!! No his legacy is solid......and the hOF sealed..
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I still don't see why lineal champ is that important..
Is Hoppo going to care or suffer!!! No his legacy is solid......and the hOF sealed..
Its more the principal of the matter though aint it. It should not of been a TKO
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
Principle.....
For someone who purports to go to University...your spelling and substance is very poor....
No principles in Boxing you should know that..
Hoppo's legacy is secure..regardless.
For someone who purports to go to University...your spelling and substance is very poor....
No principles in Boxing you should know that..
Hoppo's legacy is secure..regardless.
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I still don't see why lineal champ is that important..
Is Hoppo going to care or suffer!!! No his legacy is solid......and the hOF sealed..
thats your opinion and you are clearly entitled to it. thanks for the input though. much appreciated
vxrandall- Posts : 71
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
My error. There is no 'purports' (had to check the meaning on Merriam-Webster - The Free Dictionary) about it. I study...with very poor English skills I agree. Was educated in Welsh so at least I have an excuse unlike half of the other lot on here...
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
You've still not answerd the question....of why it's important....
Not sure Hearns apart from Virgil Hill...Has ever been lineal????
Or don't you know why???
If you'd rather debate with the younger Steffy than that's fine...
Guess you probably do and reading your stuff I can understand why..
Good thread..much appreciated!!
Not sure Hearns apart from Virgil Hill...Has ever been lineal????
Or don't you know why???
If you'd rather debate with the younger Steffy than that's fine...
Guess you probably do and reading your stuff I can understand why..
Good thread..much appreciated!!
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
I don't think you go to University Steff...Might be wrong but I believe and don't take offence..
That you are a blue collar type (nothing wrong with that!) that only gets pleasure in stirring....
May be wrong though..but not usually...
tend to be a good judge of character..
That you are a blue collar type (nothing wrong with that!) that only gets pleasure in stirring....
May be wrong though..but not usually...
tend to be a good judge of character..
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I don't think you go to University Steff...Might be wrong but I believe and don't take offence..
That you are a blue collar type (nothing wrong with that!) that only gets pleasure in stirring....
May be wrong though..but not usually...
tend to be a good judge of character..
Il let you think what you like and leave it at that
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You've still not answerd the question....of why it's important....
Not sure Hearns apart from Virgil Hill...Has ever been lineal????
Or don't you know why???
If you'd rather debate with the younger Steffy than that's fine...
Guess you probably do and reading your stuff I can understand why..
Good thread..much appreciated!!
asking whether or not i know why something is important to me is rather insulting - you are suggesting that either I don't know my own mind or make pointless remarks purely for effect.
suggesting that I prefer talking to younger people and assuming that I do because of something you believe you can tell about me from my postings is patronising. I prefer discussing things with people that can actually have a discussion without it resorting to common insults because they themselves appear to have a chip on their shoulder.
If what I post doesn't appeal to you, perhaps you should just ignore it. Responding with the kind of nonsense you have above doesnt really add anything to the debate and if you believe that your opinion is superior and that I am merely a fool then why not take the superior ground and seek to offer intelligent responses rather than put downs.
oh...and i'm not being sarcastic. there is a saying about that.
vxrandall- Posts : 71
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
I said why is it important...not why is it important to you???
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I said why is it important...not why is it important to you???
Read kid....
im not a kid son. and since all you've done this thread is pick the peanuts out of everyone elses dung i actually dont think i need to bother explaining my point of view to you. not only do you evidently not care since if differs to your own (and that is the only one that appears to count based on the tone of self importance which drips from your every post) but i doubt you'd understand it despite the fact that the 'younger blue collar "gets pleasure out of stirring" steffy' managed to pretty easily.
"gets pleasure in stirring" LMFAO!! pot meet kettle, kettle...this is Trussman66.
vxrandall- Posts : 71
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
btw ...its important TO ME....thats why i posted it! whether of not its important per se is not something are going to resolve here. it'd be easier to offload that sack of spuds from your shoulder.
vxrandall- Posts : 71
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
So you've said...So Important you can't answer a simple question!!!
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
no. what i've said is that you are too busy being a troll to realise that someone who you have previously dissed already answered the question.
keep going son.....you'll surely get bored and go find another thread to go be condescending and contrary on soon enough - you look like you've been doing it a while.
keep going son.....you'll surely get bored and go find another thread to go be condescending and contrary on soon enough - you look like you've been doing it a while.
vxrandall- Posts : 71
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
I'm a troll????
you're not worth it mate are you..
Can't answer a simple question....How old are you????
pathetic..
you're not worth it mate are you..
Can't answer a simple question....How old are you????
pathetic..
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
...and there is a sticky at the top about baiting other members - perhaps you didnt notice it.....or are too superior to think it even applies to you.
the question has been answered already. how many times is that?
pathetic is calling someone pathetic. or thinking that someones age has a bearing.
not sure about your other question though (i'm not worth it am i)...was it a question? or a statement. either way...i'm not really your mate but your use of the word is revealing.
obviously blue collar (not that theres anything wrong with that!)
if you want to keep going then please feel free but the 'tude is way past boring now and i may not bother fencing with you any further
the question has been answered already. how many times is that?
pathetic is calling someone pathetic. or thinking that someones age has a bearing.
not sure about your other question though (i'm not worth it am i)...was it a question? or a statement. either way...i'm not really your mate but your use of the word is revealing.
obviously blue collar (not that theres anything wrong with that!)
if you want to keep going then please feel free but the 'tude is way past boring now and i may not bother fencing with you any further
vxrandall- Posts : 71
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
You haven't answered anything.....but I'll forgive you....
I do think I am superior yes....
Trussy
I do think I am superior yes....
Trussy
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
vxrandall wrote:...and there is a sticky at the top about baiting other members - perhaps you didnt notice it
He should of considering it was mainly aimed at him and the 85% of baiting on here that he is responsible for...
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
87.5% after tonight
Anyway you two debate the subject..maybe Steffy can get an answer out of you!!
Anyway you two debate the subject..maybe Steffy can get an answer out of you!!
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
steffy already got to the answer. he is clearly smarter than you. probably his younger, more agile and slightly less 'blue collar' brain.
vxrandall- Posts : 71
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
Maybe he is....bless him....
and bless you...
and bless you...
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Principle.....
For someone who purports to go to University...your spelling and substance is very poor....
No principles in Boxing you should know that..
Hoppo's legacy is secure..regardless.
I don't understand like you were saying with Sven Ottke your record on paper means a lot... Have a change of heart?
AlexHuckerby- Posts : 9201
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
If they don't overturn it, it's not the end of the world. Referee and a lot of others didn't think it was a foul and he got an injury he didn't want to continue from - TKO. Looked like he was looking for a way out.
Scottrf- Posts : 14359
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
Yeah i was in stitches when the result was read out, i thought it was nothing more than he deserved, there was only one man trying to box in that fight. I would be delighted if the result stayed the same.
The Galveston Giant- Posts : 5333
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
Vxrandall; I think you'll find it's very unlikely there's a chip on Truss's shoulder. If there was he'd have eaten it already...
On topic: I don't much care if the result is changed. Sick of seeing Hopkins bore his way through fights. Good news if he retires.
On topic: I don't much care if the result is changed. Sick of seeing Hopkins bore his way through fights. Good news if he retires.
BALTIMORA- Posts : 5566
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
Good jousting chaps, and you have as good as you got...but...as vxrandall rightly says, there is a thread about baiting members stickied at the top of this board. As such, I'd suggest everyone reads it.
This is a valid thread, no need to turn it into a slanging match.
This is a valid thread, no need to turn it into a slanging match.
Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
They are meeting in December and it is on the agenda to answer your question.
Daz- Posts : 1265
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
December 13th. December 14th i'll be reinstated as rightful UCPL champ.
Michaels, Sean- Posts : 2542
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
I'm with Scott and GG on this. Couldn't care less but if I had a choice I'd like the result to stay the same. Respect Hoppo plenty but have never liked him. Find him a tedious spoiling quasi-cheat who finally got his commuppance. Also agree with Truss that given the controversey/calamity over the result it will be largely disregarded in the history books and his ATG status will be largely unchanged.
Regards the silly spat above, I'd point out Steffan never actually answered the OP either. Daz/Sean are the only ones to actually answer the question that themes the thread.
Regards the silly spat above, I'd point out Steffan never actually answered the OP either. Daz/Sean are the only ones to actually answer the question that themes the thread.
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
thanks Dazstarr! perfect answer for meDazstarr wrote:They are meeting in December and it is on the agenda to answer your question.
vxrandall- Posts : 71
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TopHat24/7 wrote:I'm with Scott and GG on this. Couldn't care less but if I had a choice I'd like the result to stay the same. Respect Hoppo plenty but have never liked him. Find him a tedious spoiling quasi-cheat who finally got his commuppance. Also agree with Truss that given the controversey/calamity over the result it will be largely disregarded in the history books and his ATG status will be largely unchanged.
Regards the silly spat above, I'd point out Steffan never actually answered the OP either. Daz/Sean are the only ones to actually answer the question that themes the thread.
i disagree - steffan did answer Truss's question as to 'why is it important' ....he said 'its the principle' ....thats why its important to me - it wasnt a TKO and should not therefore stand in the record books as such. all that other stuff about his legacy etc is fine but he didnt lose that right imho and chad dawson should not be recognised as the lineal champ unless/until he beats the man or the man retires and he beats the next best man to him.
vxrandall- Posts : 71
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
Does anybody care???
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
I answered the question
Truss if you dont care please dont comment kid
Otherwise its back to trash talk for you son...
Truss if you dont care please dont comment kid
Otherwise its back to trash talk for you son...
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
Stop now before it gets out of hand, gentlemen.
Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
Okay fists..I only joust with grownups..
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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I dont think iv ever been called a Gentleman before
No worries Fists
No worries Fists
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
Hey fists when Steffan left he kept pm...ing me to go with him because he'd found a better site...
No surprise I stayed here..
No surprise I stayed here..
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
There's only one child I can see here.
BALTIMORA- Posts : 5566
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
and I thought you two were best buddies?
Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
Go easy on Balti fists...remember it's 3 strikes and you are out.
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Go easy on Balti fists...remember it's 3 strikes and you are out.
How many strikes are you on Truss?
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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Re: when are the CSAC going to overturn the bogus Hopkins Dawson decision so BHOP can be recognised as lineal champ?
Glad to say never been kicked off the old 606 or this one....
Articles are too good and I have too much class!!
Articles are too good and I have too much class!!
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