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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue 06 Dec 2011, 3:27 pm

First topic message reminder :

Looks like the French T14 runners-up could be without captain and backrow star Fulgence Ouedraogo, plus locks Thibault Privat and Mickael De Marco (both awaiting results of scans):

Teams will be posted when they are announced:

Glasgow Warriors
Stuart Hogg; Federico Aramburu, Peter Murchie, Graeme Morrison, Rory Lamont; Duncan Weir, Chris Cusiter; Jon Welsh, Pat MacArthur, Mike Cusack; Richie Gray, Al Kellock (captain); Rob Harley, John Barclay, Ryan Wilson
SUBSTITUTES: Dougie Hall, Ryan Grant, Ed Kalman, Tom Ryder, Chris Fusaro, Henry Pyrgos, Troy Nathan, Ruaridh Jackson

Montpellier Herault
J-B Peyras; M Bustos Moyano, T Combezou, P Bosch, P Bérard; S Fernandez, E Escande; G Shvelidze, M Ladhuie, G Jgenti/K Kervarec, J Tuineau, D Hancke, V Bost, R Martin (capt), A Tulou.


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Post by 21st Century Schizoid Man Sun 11 Dec 2011, 10:21 am

Aaah - weather fine - cold and still ready for a real Warriors effort at Fortress Firhill.
Big shock a minute ago when I turned on the telly and that talentless, ginger t88t Hucknall was on polluting the airwaves. tomato Almost spoiled my day but remembered the match and fairly cheered up. Rory L for a brace anyone ?

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Post by luvtotup Sun 11 Dec 2011, 1:34 pm

we need beattie back- pronto!

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Post by bsando Sun 11 Dec 2011, 1:44 pm

Just tuned in to last 10mins of first half. Looking pretty good, Weir's range/power is phenomenal!!! He will surely be picked for next 6 nations, he's far better than Parks and Jackson. Cusiter looks like he's having a good game too, I liked his quick tap and go when Montpellier gave away a penalty, very switched on. Scrum is a worry though, have to deny montpellier chances to scrummage in glasgow's 22. Glasgow are more than capable of winning and hopefully we can squeeze a bigger margin in 2nd half.

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Post by George Carlin Sun 11 Dec 2011, 1:45 pm

Anyone watching this, folks? Need some info!

Apparently it's 12-10 to Glasgow at half time.

Weir has kicked 4 penalties, Escande with a converted try for our fromage eating, surrender monkey brethren, with Bustos Moyano also dotting a penalty for Montpellier.

Can anyone offer an opinion on how Glasgow are playing?

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Post by George Carlin Sun 11 Dec 2011, 1:46 pm

bsando wrote:Just tuned in to last 10mins of first half. Looking pretty good, Weir's range/power is phenomenal!!! He will surely be picked for next 6 nations, he's far better than Parks and Jackson. Cusiter looks like he's having a good game too, I liked his quick tap and go when Montpellier gave away a penalty, very switched on. Scrum is a worry though, have to deny montpellier chances to scrummage in glasgow's 22. Glasgow are more than capable of winning and hopefully we can squeeze a bigger margin in 2nd half.
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Post by George Carlin Sun 11 Dec 2011, 1:58 pm

Three yellow cards in this match already??
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Post by GLove39 Sun 11 Dec 2011, 2:26 pm

TRY for Glasgow. Aramburu gets the try. 20-10 4 minutes to go

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Post by dogtooth Sun 11 Dec 2011, 2:28 pm

ive got the radio on in the background.

good game for glasgow. they want to end with a big effort and deny the lbp to montpellier
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Post by dogtooth Sun 11 Dec 2011, 2:33 pm

the french side scored as i typed. unlucky glasgow but still a good home win.
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Post by GLove39 Sun 11 Dec 2011, 2:33 pm

final score
Glasgow 20 - 15 Montpellier

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Post by bsando Sun 11 Dec 2011, 2:37 pm

good effort glasgow, shame 14 didn't score at end and montpellier got lbp try. Wins a win though!!! Go Glasgow!!

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Post by TJ1 Sun 11 Dec 2011, 2:41 pm

Good win for Glasgow. Weir again steady and busy if not spectacular but he needs to develop a running game - one run he made I think and he was turned over. Hogg really looks the part with several good breaks. Gray a bit anonymous, One decent run but he seems to spend too much time hanging around the fringes of rucks not doing much. Seems to have lost some sparkle. Front row struggled all game. Kelloch showing a bit of fight - literally - might get cited for a punch or two. Rory Lamont looked fired u as well - got a couple of decent runs in. Cusssiter looks back to his best

too many mistakes - getting isolated or knocking on

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Post by George Carlin Sun 11 Dec 2011, 4:51 pm

We're over in France next and that will give us confidence.

Happy with the win but it sounds like our front row got a horsing.
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Post by funnyExiledScot Sun 11 Dec 2011, 5:15 pm

Marvellous result. I know they were missing players, but you have to beat what's in front of you. Shame they ended up with a losing bonus point.

Also great that Leinster beat Bath. The same results in the next round and Glasgow will have a great shot at a 2nd place qualifying position.

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Post by George Carlin Sun 11 Dec 2011, 5:28 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:Marvellous result. I know they were missing players, but you have to beat what's in front of you. Shame they ended up with a losing bonus point.

Also great that Leinster beat Bath. The same results in the next round and Glasgow will have a great shot at a 2nd place qualifying position.

And I'd have to see the highlights but by all accounts Hogg showed his class and is responding to the challenge of Lamont being in the squad. Yahoo Surely Andy Robinson has to be taking notice?
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Post by TJ1 Sun 11 Dec 2011, 5:33 pm

Hogg was quality. check the stats on espn scrum but he made IIRC 3 good breaksa dn set up a try as well as no mistakes

Its going to be testing for Robinson we know he is a cautious / conservative selector but loads of young guys are putting their hands up for a place

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Post by 21st Century Schizoid Man Sun 11 Dec 2011, 6:13 pm

George,

if Robinson overlooks Stuart Hogg for the 6 Ns it will be a disgrace. Stiil we can keep him for the Robo! Cusiter, Lamont and Harley all good. Morrison bloody awful - at least on offence. He could not catch a bloody cold. Weir OK but Jackson got the line moving despite Morrison's best efforts to knock on, on every occasion. Barclay lokked back on form too. Big Al very belligerent. Good win against a solid French team. Yahoo
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Post by George Carlin Sun 11 Dec 2011, 6:51 pm

Schizoid (I laugh every time at your username) - what was the story with the front row? It sounds fecking terrible. Didn't we replace two thirds of it early in the second half?
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Post by funnyExiledScot Mon 12 Dec 2011, 9:01 am

Hogg is a must for the 6 Nations on current form. Not for the squad, but to start at 15. He still has plenty to learn, but no other Scottish 15 is playing as well as he is at the moment. It's a no brainer.

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Post by Scot Abroad Mon 12 Dec 2011, 3:23 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:Hogg is a must for the 6 Nations on current form. Not for the squad, but to start at 15. He still has plenty to learn, but no other Scottish 15 is playing as well as he is at the moment. It's a no brainer.

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The boy is rapid! Apparently the fastest player in the Warriors squad. He should have really passed to Weir when he made that break down the left though. Great result, we had them pinned back for quite a while and they were throwing speculative passes due to the pressure. Shame they managed to get that try at the end and get the LBP. Would have been good to deny them that. It's fine though, another win this Saturday, then against Leinster and Bath and we're golden! Whistle

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Post by GLove39 Mon 12 Dec 2011, 3:47 pm

Another positive from the game was the attendance 5,287
Glasgow's biggest of the season so far, and nice to see a gradual rise in overall figures. thumbsup

Hopefully they can a huge crowd for the Edinburgh game? They got over 7,000 last year. Maybe hit 9 / 10k?

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Post by Dorothy_Mantooth Mon 12 Dec 2011, 4:32 pm

A win is a win and to still be in the HC at the halfway stage, not playing anywhere near our best in any of the games is a sign in of how far we have come!

Dissapointed not to deny them the LB, we showed a real green streak in the past couple of weeks. In the last two weeks we have had possession with time running out and twice we have kicked ball away. It cost us 2pts last week and effectively one yesterday.

Hogg was a big positive, as was lamont when he finally got the ball in the second half. 4 to 7 were all excellent, although front row got taught a lesson and Wilson needs "rested".

Starting half backs were fine, but the centres offered nothing in attack. Morrison has gone backwards in recent months, but the lack of any threat at 13 is not helping. That said his constant losing the ball in contact is unacceptable. DTH's injury is really hurting us, he could have covered for the loss of max Evans, but alas we are left with very few attacking options in midfield.

Can't believe that hogg was in the papers at the weekend almost begging the SRU to offer him a full time deal. What else do they want the lad to do.

Good to see Jackson back, I thought he got the backline moving when he came on.

Decent crowd. I did not make it and was forced to watch the game on the red button where we forced to listen to Scott Hasting constantly refer to us as Scotlamd and his Irish side kick constantly refer to how the current score either helped or hindered Leinster. No offence , but I am sure anyone who gave two flying f's about Leinster would have been watching them on the other channel!

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Post by 21st Century Schizoid Man Mon 12 Dec 2011, 5:21 pm

George,

1st half front row gash and spun and pushed all over the place. Believe it or not way better with Kalman and Hall on - they really made a big difference and Hall throwing was ok - the lineout was excellent throughout - typical Big Al Kellock display. Jon Welsh a wee bit unlucky to get pinged in the first half. That wee fat guy Cusack was awful. Still a wins a win and all that. Very Happy
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Post by Dorothy_Mantooth Mon 12 Dec 2011, 5:54 pm

The scrum did look better when the subs came on, but I think their changes weakened their front row. Grant has been very unlucky to lose his place since Welsh has came back. Been over a year since Welsh has put a decent run of form together.


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Post by TJ1 Mon 12 Dec 2011, 6:02 pm

With the scrums is there an issue with Grey and Kelloch - two big lads like that but not managing to lock the scrum / give it some oompf? Seemed to happen in the WC as well - It just seems to me that everytime those two are at 4 and 5 the scrum is rubbish?

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Post by 21st Century Schizoid Man Mon 12 Dec 2011, 7:47 pm

TJ,
who are Grey and Kelloch - oh you mean Gray and Kellock Doh Well the scrum improved in the 2nd half and they were still on so your theory is somewhat shaky. Bit like your spelling really Glasgow Warriors vs Montpellier Herault - Page 2 1054138444
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Post by TJ1 Mon 12 Dec 2011, 8:13 pm

:-) Oops.

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Post by Scot Abroad Mon 12 Dec 2011, 8:56 pm

I think the score line flattered Montpellier a bit. They were under huge amounts of pressure in the second half and at points were throwing wild passes just to get the ball out their hands. If it weren’t for the errors from the Glasgow players the score could have been a lot better.

Will Lineen make any big changes to the team for Saturday? I don’t expect any, perhaps bring Nathan into 12 as Morrison was useless again and maybe Beattie on the bench. He decide to change the front three as well since they got a bit of a beating. Are we looking at being able to sneak a win away from home? A LBP is certainly possible, but can we go all the way and take 4 points?

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Post by TJ1 Mon 12 Dec 2011, 9:00 pm

need 4 pts and its certainly possible

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Post by Dorothy_Mantooth Mon 12 Dec 2011, 9:45 pm

I would bring Beattie into the starting xv. He was one of our few decent performers against the dragons. I would bring in grant for welsh and bring low into the 23.

Would not be disappointed to see Nathan come in for gdog. Also murchie did little at 13 but what other options are there?

Hopefully budgie comes back from the 7s fit as we could do with him on the bench, I don't rate pygros at all.

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Post by Dorothy_Mantooth Mon 12 Dec 2011, 9:48 pm

Being honest I can't see us making the hc 1/4s. However we do have a shot at the amlin and to do that we will need at least 2 wins and Saturday looks the best chance. I am sure they will strengthen their team so we will need to improve a lot on Sundays performance.

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Post by bsando Mon 12 Dec 2011, 10:53 pm

Scot Abroad wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:Hogg is a must for the 6 Nations on current form. Not for the squad, but to start at 15. He still has plenty to learn, but no other Scottish 15 is playing as well as he is at the moment. It's a no brainer.

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The boy is rapid! Apparently the fastest player in the Warriors squad. He should have really passed to Weir when he made that break down the left though. Great result, we had them pinned back for quite a while and they were throwing speculative passes due to the pressure. Shame they managed to get that try at the end and get the LBP. Would have been good to deny them that. It's fine though, another win this Saturday, then against Leinster and Bath and we're golden! Whistle


Yeah he was a standout in that game for me. I'd also like to see Weir and Denton included in 6 nations and don't forget Jack Cuthbert! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCxuE9OLzxY

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue 13 Dec 2011, 10:13 am

bsando, agree totally with Hogg, Weir and Dozer, but not with Cuthbert - he's not even getting a game for Bath at the mo

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