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Post by Scottrf Wed 07 Dec 2011, 1:52 pm

Tommy Hearns
Mark Johnson
Cocoa Kid
Newsboy Brown (?)
Leo Houck
Jake Kilrain
James Wharton (Young Molineaux)

Hugh D. McIntosh
Michael Buffer
Freddie Roach
Al Bernstein
Michael Katz
Rip Valentini

No Naz, no Curry.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Wed 07 Dec 2011, 1:55 pm

Glad to see Buffer get in as well as Hearns.

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Post by manos de piedra Wed 07 Dec 2011, 1:56 pm

I came across Newsboy Brown recently on the HoF thread. He was a bantamweight challenger around the time of Panama Al Brown and holds a win over him there. Certainly nowhere near as strong a claim as Hamed I would have thought.

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Post by 88Chris05 Wed 07 Dec 2011, 2:00 pm

Newsboy Brown's inclusion is, quite frankly, verging on the disgusting. A decent fighter with a less than credible world title claim (well, a portion of a fragmented title) in a very messy era for the Flyweights. True, he did beat 'Panama' Al, but that aside his career was nothing more than solid.


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Post by Scottrf Wed 07 Dec 2011, 2:00 pm

I think they are running out of Old Timers/Pioneers.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Wed 07 Dec 2011, 2:05 pm

Johnson and Brown? What the hell is that about, far more deserving fighters out there.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Wed 07 Dec 2011, 2:05 pm

Bout time Newsboy Brown got in!

Am sure TRUSSMAN is crying to his pillow as we speak over Curry


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Post by Scottrf Wed 07 Dec 2011, 2:06 pm

I remember at the time Fat Dan saying he would be voting for Johnson.

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Post by oxring Wed 07 Dec 2011, 2:07 pm

Hamed's end keeps him out of the hall. There was US interest in him (a British fighter to boot) and he was thrilling crowds. Then he runs into a beaten Barrera (who, it turned out, had plenty left in the tank to give) - and suddenly, once the smoke cleared - the fire that generated it had disappeared.

In time, people will look back and remember that the blaze that went through Kelley, Vasquez, Medina etc - and feel it worthy of respect.

It doesn't help when the likes of Bunce refer to Hamed as "the greatest British boxer of all time". He plainly isn't/wasn't - and it triggers a reaction against his legacy - to avoid rating him highly.
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Post by manos de piedra Wed 07 Dec 2011, 2:09 pm

Face it, sooner or later every fighter is going to get in. In 100 years they will probably be discussing how Johnny Nelson got in ahead of some later legend.

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 07 Dec 2011, 2:10 pm

Disgrace that Hamed hasn't made it into that lot. Might join forces with rowley to protest at canastota.

Thank God for the Captain's HoF.

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Post by 88Chris05 Wed 07 Dec 2011, 2:12 pm

Seriously starting to think that captain's v2 version of the Hall of Fame, when it's finished, should be packaged and published and become THE consensus guide to what a Hall of Fame should really be like, and what a fighter needs to do to be eligible!
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Post by Scottrf Wed 07 Dec 2011, 2:17 pm

Curry had to cope with Hearns becoming eligible. The pool for old timers/pioneers is only getting smaller. It’s a flawed system.

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