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Soderling out of AO with Mono
Robin Soderling will miss the Australian Open in January due to illness. The Swede who has been suffering from mono since July this year has not recovered and will not be abvailable for the tournament. Not particularly a threat to the top guys in this slam but will be miss nevertheless. Shows again the devastating effects of a genuine mononucleosis. Memories of Mario Ancic, Henin amongst a few to suffer from this disease and were forced to take long time out of the game. Well i can only say the doctor who told Federer he had mono must have his Medical Certificate banned for gross misconduct and diagnosis crimes - deceiving a client. Or maybe Federer just happens to have a talent for quicker and speedy recoveries than any mortal. A modern day Swiss Gladiator.
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Or perhaps you just don't know much about the disease?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infectious_mononucleosis
Careful though, there are some big words in there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infectious_mononucleosis
Careful though, there are some big words in there.
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Or Dr Bogbrush, you can enlighten us on it. After all, you did an extensive study of 'mono' on wikipeadia.
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SA... is this a get-well-soon for Soderling or a dig at Federer (your favourite subject).
It may be both given your penchant for bashing any player named Federer.
BTW... You must have read this - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/609550-roger-federer-and-the-mono-myth-of-2008 (perhaps you are Michael Lanich looking for conspiracy theories and asterisks).
It may be both given your penchant for bashing any player named Federer.
BTW... You must have read this - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/609550-roger-federer-and-the-mono-myth-of-2008 (perhaps you are Michael Lanich looking for conspiracy theories and asterisks).
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SA you need to understand the same disease or illness will have different impact on different body. Federer is something special, whether you accept it or not its the case.
The guy's talent is above imagination, there will be just one Federer in life time and we are lucky to be in his generation to see him play.
Saying all that, I did find your article funny and not irritating nor aggressive, and to say Soderling not a threat to top guys in slam is ridiculous, this is the same guy who has beaten Federer in FO, this is the only guy to beat Rafa in FO, Federer would love to have that thingy on his cv.
The guy's talent is above imagination, there will be just one Federer in life time and we are lucky to be in his generation to see him play.
Saying all that, I did find your article funny and not irritating nor aggressive, and to say Soderling not a threat to top guys in slam is ridiculous, this is the same guy who has beaten Federer in FO, this is the only guy to beat Rafa in FO, Federer would love to have that thingy on his cv.
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Laverfan. Are you accusing me of bias? This article is nothing but a heart-felt best wishes to a 'genuine' mono affected player.
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Agree with you invisiblecoolers. I know a young kickboxing enthusiast who had (confirmed) mono and felt pretty well within months.
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Simple_Analyst wrote:Are you accusing me of bias? This article is nothing but a heart-felt best wishes to a 'genuine' mono affected player.
How can you be biased, when you are wishing Soderling well, but another mono afflicted player is somehow not genuine.
Do you have access to Soderling's medical records to know with certainty that it is genuine?
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Oh come on LF he is just a simple analyst not a serious analyst, so to expect logic beyond minimum level is not correct , hope you understand
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invisiblecoolers wrote:Oh come on LF he is just a simple analyst not a serious analyst, so to expect logic beyond minimum level is not correct , hope you understand
.... but as Aladdin (Robin Williams) would say.... "He can be taught...".
But I do see your point iC.
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The real question is that Federer used the mono excuse for against NolestAO 2008.
The worst bit was talking down to Novak during the 2009 AO when Nole retired and the squeaky clean Federer remarked that you shouldn't play if you are not fit...
The worst bit was talking down to Novak during the 2009 AO when Nole retired and the squeaky clean Federer remarked that you shouldn't play if you are not fit...
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Unbiased Educator/SA being accused of bias....? Heaven forbid.
Although could there be perhaps just a hint of bias in as much as his contributions rarely fail to include a mention of his beloved Roger, regardless of the title of the alleged subject matter
And now endowing him with the qualities of a "Swiss Gladiator" ! Praise indeed.
As the song goes ....... It must be love
Although could there be perhaps just a hint of bias in as much as his contributions rarely fail to include a mention of his beloved Roger, regardless of the title of the alleged subject matter
And now endowing him with the qualities of a "Swiss Gladiator" ! Praise indeed.
As the song goes ....... It must be love
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Like any viral infection people can have different viral loads, Federer obviously must have had a very mild infection as blood tests showed 3 weeks after saying he had it there was no virus. For others like Soderling and Ancic the infection can be chronic and hard to clear. Very rarely, it can continually relapse.
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laverfan wrote:Simple_Analyst wrote:Are you accusing me of bias? This article is nothing but a heart-felt best wishes to a 'genuine' mono affected player.
How can you be biased, when you are wishing Soderling well, but another mono afflicted player is somehow not genuine.
Do you have access to Soderling's medical records to know with certainty that it is genuine?
I don't have access to Soderlings records but neither do you to Federer's but as an impartial tennis fan, it's clear to see Soderling has "Genuine Mono" which has kept him out of the game since July. This is a sharp contrast to the diagnosis by Dr Zeus that Federer had any mono. Anyway, as we know, some people shake of viral infections quickly. Federer should volunteer to be injected with the HIV virus. I'm sure after 2 days of research, he can shake it off and embrace the courts again. Afterall, i'm sure with the mono recovery talent, there has to be an HIV-talent in there too.
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Simple_Analyst wrote:laverfan wrote:Simple_Analyst wrote:Are you accusing me of bias? This article is nothing but a heart-felt best wishes to a 'genuine' mono affected player.
How can you be biased, when you are wishing Soderling well, but another mono afflicted player is somehow not genuine.
Do you have access to Soderling's medical records to know with certainty that it is genuine?
I don't have access to Soderlings records but neither do you to Federer's but as an impartial tennis fan, it's clear to see Soderling has "Genuine Mono" which has kept him out of the game since July. This is a sharp contrast to the diagnosis by Dr Zeus that Federer had any mono. Anyway, as we know, some people shake of viral infections quickly. Federer should volunteer to be injected with the HIV virus. I'm sure after 2 days of research, he can shake it off and embrace the courts again. Afterall, i'm sure with the mono recovery talent, there has to be an HIV-talent in there too.
If you are a Dr., you can provide your credentials. Your comment to LK is rather naive. . HIV should not be taken lightly, but WUMming can take any form.
Did you know Roddick had Mono?
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=5464023
... and here is his playing activity....
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Andy-Roddick.aspx?t=pa
Please re-read Lydian's comment, if you missed it the first time.
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Guess LK's comments were considered too passionate.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
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LF - clearly Roddick didn't have "Genuine Mono" - I think that's the accurate medical term!
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JuliusHMarx wrote:LF - clearly Roddick didn't have "Genuine Mono" - I think that's the accurate medical term!
Agreed JHM. There are two different diseases - Mononucleosis and 'Genuine' Mononucleosis.
Everyone, other than Federer, had 'Genuine' Mononucleosis, so says Dr. SA.
We should now call it Federer's Mono variant. Perhaps other Federer variants have not been discovered yet, the but Dr SA is on the path to such glorious discoveries (as well as on the road to perdition).
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laverfan wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:LF - clearly Roddick didn't have "Genuine Mono" - I think that's the accurate medical term!
Agreed JHM. There are two different diseases - Mononucleosis and 'Genuine' Mononucleosis.
Everyone, other than Federer, had 'Genuine' Mononucleosis, so says Dr. SA.
We should now call it Federer's Mono variant. Perhaps other Federer variants have not been discovered yet, the but Dr SA is on the path to such glorious discoveries (as well as on the road to perdition).
Well LF , we should be proud to have born in the age of Dr.SA, who knows more discoveries would lead to bias and error free world.
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The world of medicine is currently buzzing with the news that in his unceasing quest for further glorious discoveries, Dr SA/UE is soon to embark on a long-term programme of research into a very rare and hitherto little-known condition which he first brought to public attention following his skilful piece of self-diagnosis : tosh-nucleosis
Commonly defined in layman's terms as the ability to embarrass oneself on sports forums by writing consistently nonsensical waffle, it is considered in medical circles as a form of addiction which - on the evidence of Dr SA's past and ongoing contributions - has no proven cure.
Sadly, no financial funding has yet been secured for this vital research and so any monetary donations will be welcome.
Commonly defined in layman's terms as the ability to embarrass oneself on sports forums by writing consistently nonsensical waffle, it is considered in medical circles as a form of addiction which - on the evidence of Dr SA's past and ongoing contributions - has no proven cure.
Sadly, no financial funding has yet been secured for this vital research and so any monetary donations will be welcome.
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Laver Fan, you are just rising to the WUM bait here. Leave him to it?...
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Agreed HB.Henman Bill wrote:Laver Fan, you are just rising to the WUM bait here. Leave him to it?...
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@ Lags thats very funny
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lags72 wrote:The world of medicine is currently buzzing with the news that in his unceasing quest for further glorious discoveries, Dr SA/UE is soon to embark on a long-term programme of research into a very rare and hitherto little-known condition which he first brought to public attention following his skilful piece of self-diagnosis : tosh-nucleosis
Commonly defined in layman's terms as the ability to embarrass oneself on sports forums by writing consistently nonsensical waffle, it is considered in medical circles as a form of addiction which - on the evidence of Dr SA's past and ongoing contributions - has no proven cure.
Sadly, no financial funding has yet been secured for this vital research and so any monetary donations will be welcome.
He got off light. I've seen Dr_Sincere get Premature Speculation on 606, not a pretty sight I can tell you.
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Don't know that much about mono except it's a posh way of saying glandular fever (GF) wot I got in 1974.
They said at the time that it really takes two years to completely get over GF. I certainly felt tired for a number of months afterwards, although I was playing cricket during that period.
Like many things, you can get it bad or not so bad. If Fed had got it really bad he would not have played at all. Sadly for Sod, he appears to have got it really bad.
They said at the time that it really takes two years to completely get over GF. I certainly felt tired for a number of months afterwards, although I was playing cricket during that period.
Like many things, you can get it bad or not so bad. If Fed had got it really bad he would not have played at all. Sadly for Sod, he appears to have got it really bad.
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sirfredperry wrote:Don't know that much about mono except it's a posh way of saying glandular fever (GF) wot I got in 1974.
They said at the time that it really takes two years to completely get over GF. I certainly felt tired for a number of months afterwards, although I was playing cricket during that period.
Like many things, you can get it bad or not so bad. If Fed had got it really bad he would not have played at all. Sadly for Sod, he appears to have got it really bad.
In other words, "Genuine Mono" diagnosed by a genuine doctor, not one pending charges against "diagnostic crimes".
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Simple_Analyst wrote:In other words, "Genuine Mono" diagnosed by a genuine doctor, not one pending charges against "diagnostic crimes".
By 'pending charges' do you mean the ones you completely made up in libellous fashion, or do they have some vague connection to the real world which the rest of us live in?
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The tragedy of Simplistic is that this didn't start out as a wum thread, it began because he didn't understand the nature of the disease but as that's become more and more evident he's had to try to make it ironic.
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Julius, it's a mystery the doctor actually said it was mono. May be "mono" came into his thoughts first and he stuck to it. For us In-knowledge tennis fans who saw Federer on court hanging onto his dear life against Djokovic, he looked perfectly healthy.
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Simple_Analyst wrote:laverfan wrote:Simple_Analyst wrote:Are you accusing me of bias? This article is nothing but a heart-felt best wishes to a 'genuine' mono affected player.
How can you be biased, when you are wishing Soderling well, but another mono afflicted player is somehow not genuine.
Do you have access to Soderling's medical records to know with certainty that it is genuine?
I don't have access to Soderlings records but neither do you to Federer's but as an impartial tennis fan, it's clear to see Soderling has "Genuine Mono" which has kept him out of the game since July. This is a sharp contrast to the diagnosis by Dr Zeus that Federer had any mono. Anyway, as we know, some people shake of viral infections quickly. Federer should volunteer to be injected with the HIV virus. I'm sure after 2 days of research, he can shake it off and embrace the courts again. Afterall, i'm sure with the mono recovery talent, there has to be an HIV-talent in there too.
Did you mean to be really funny and refer to Dr Seuss, the well-known author of wacky childrens books such as "Green Eggs and Ham", and not Dr Zeus, who without the medical title was the father of the Greek Pantheon of Gods?
I know you'd never make such an elementary mistake. I mean, you're not an idiot are you? I'm sure you'll enlighten me on who Dr Zeus really is.
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Simple_Analyst wrote:In other words, "Genuine Mono" diagnosed by a genuine doctor, not one pending charges against "diagnostic crimes".
'Genuine Mono' vs. 'Mono'! + 'Genuine Doctors'. vs. 'Doctors'! == 'Genuine Tennis Players' vs. 'Tennis Players'!
All this to bash a specific player.
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Simple_Analyst wrote:Julius, it's a mystery the doctor actually said it was mono. May be "mono" came into his thoughts first and he stuck to it.
I had the same doctor. I went in with sore shoulder, his first thought was 'haemorroids' and he stuck to it. Now I walk in a peculiar fashion.
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Of course the intelligent and not-idiot Bogbrush demands every Dr character with an "e' and "u" in their name must be named Dr Seuss.
Now to important matters. Laverfan, where did i bash a player?
Now to important matters. Laverfan, where did i bash a player?
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Oh ok, that's a relief. The thought was starting to occur that maybe you really did mean Dr Seuss and had just not realised that he had a different name from the father of the Greek Gods.
So was it a hilarious pun that passed me by? If so, what was the joke?
So was it a hilarious pun that passed me by? If so, what was the joke?
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Oh it passed you by since reference to Dr Seuss might have really left you in clutches from laughter. How any one will find that funny, i have no idea but then it's Boggo we talking about here so you never know.
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Uh, so who is Dr. Zeus, as referred to above as diagnosing Fed?
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I have no idea what you meant, Simplistic, and despite having numerous opportunities to clarify that you've so far failed so to do.
Was is Seuss? Was it Zeus? If either, what on Earth were you trying to achieve? Will anyone ever know? Do you?
Was is Seuss? Was it Zeus? If either, what on Earth were you trying to achieve? Will anyone ever know? Do you?
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Julius, off course you wouldn't have heard of the highly incompetent fictional Dr Zeus, the travellers. Infact, any reference to Dr Seuss here deserves mockery. Incompetence was never a word you'll associate with Dr Zeus or his characters.
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Good to see you've been busy on Wiki desperately trying to salvage some credibility.
You shouldn't have bothered.
You shouldn't have bothered.
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Simple_Analyst wrote:Julius, off course you wouldn't have heard of the highly incompetent fictional Dr Zeus, the travellers.
I still haven't. Why would I?
Dr Zeus was a fictional group (?) of incompetent travellers, is that right? What sort of travellers and in what way incompetent?
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Can see Boggo went to learn something new for a change. So now you know the difference between Dr Zeus and Dr Seuss.
Well Julius, the secret is getting a read on the stories of Dr Zeus. Shouldn't be hard, together with Boggo, you can add it to Santa's wish list for christmas.
Well Julius, the secret is getting a read on the stories of Dr Zeus. Shouldn't be hard, together with Boggo, you can add it to Santa's wish list for christmas.
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Simple_Analyst wrote: Well Julius, the secret is getting a read on the stories of Dr Zeus.
Or I could just ask someone who already knows and hope to get a reply
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So was it Dr Zeus you were trying to reference, and if so can you explain to the forum what on Earth you were trying to achieve by equating Dr Zeus/Seuss to Federers doctor?
Even by your standards this is thin stuff indeed.
Even by your standards this is thin stuff indeed.
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Lol, the incompetence of Federer's Dr used as a theme here has passed you by yet again. You see ignorance on a subject makes it thin stuff indeed. How were you supposed to understand when you never heard of the character Dr Zeus before?! I keep thinking, don't i have anything better to do? Yes, i got dust to clean under my fridge.
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Simple_Analyst wrote:i got dust to clean under my fridge.
That's nothing. I've got a Cat in a Hat causing havoc downstairs!
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JuliusHMarx wrote:Simple_Analyst wrote:i got dust to clean under my fridge.
That's nothing. I've got a Cat in a Hat causing havoc downstairs!
Are you trying to suggest he meant Dr Seuss??! Shocking, he obviously meant the hugely famous Dr Zeus.
Do you think Simplistic is some kind of idiot??
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Simple_Analyst wrote:where did i bash a player?
Shows again the devastating effects of a genuine mononucleosis.
Implying disingenuousness.
Lol, the incompetence of Federer's Dr used as a theme here has passed you by yet again.
Implying incompetence of both the doctor and consequently the patient.
Uncivilised attempts, I say.
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