Newcastle Falcons

by Fluxy Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:16 pm

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Newcastle Falcons

Newcastle Falcons

Director of Rugby – Fluxy
Assistant Head coach; Jim Telfer

Forwards Coach; Warren Gatland
Backs Coach; Will Greenwood
Lineout Coach; Martin Johnson
Kicking Coach; Neil Jenkins
Scrum Coach; Jim Telfer and Phil Vickery

First team Captain; James Hudson
First team Vice Captain; Hienrich Brussow
First team Squad Size; (35/45)

Season Sponsors; Metro Centre
Initial Sign on fee; £10m
Three installments throughout the season of £5m
Sponsor Bonus - £5m

Budget; £12m

Forwards

Front row:

LH - Grant Shiells [ENG]
LH - Darren Fearn [ENG]

HK - Chris Whitehead [ENG]
HK - David Paice [ENG]
HK - Tom Lindsay [ENG] England Saxon
HK - Rob Vickers [ENG]

TH - Tom Mercey [ENG]
TH - Dan Frazier [ENG]
TH/LH - Dave Wilson[ENG]

Second Row:

LK - Ollie Kohn [ENG]
LK - Richard Boyle [ENG]
LK - James Hudson [ENG]
LK/BS - Tim Swinson [ENG]
LK - Andrew van der Heijden [NZL]
LK/BS - Steve Mafi [TON] Tonga Squad

Back Row:

OS/BS - Hienrich Brussow [RSA] Springbok squad
OS/BS - Jonathon Poff [NZL]
BS/8 - Mark Wilson [ENG]
BS/8 - Chris Hala'ufia [TON]
BS/OS/8 - Jamie Gibson [ENG] EPS
OS - Will Welch [ENG] England Saxon
8 - Nick Easter [ENG]

Backs

Outside Halves:

SH - Jordi Pasqualin [ENG]
SH/FH/FB - Ruan Pienaar [RSA] Springbok Squad
SH - Paul Hodgson [ENG]
FH - Nick Evans [ENG]

Centres

IC/OC - Steven Shingler [SCO/WEL]
IC/OC - Tom May [ENG]
IC/OC - Dominic Waldlouck [ENG]
OC/IC - Jamie Helluer [SAM]

Back Three

WG - Adam Thompstone [ENG]
WG - Topsy Ojo [ENG]
WG/FB - Cory Jane [NZL] All Black Squad
FB/WG - Luke Fielden [ENG]
WG - Seb Stegmann [ENG]
FB/OC - Alex Tait [ENG]
FB/WG - Nick Abendanon [ENG] EPS

Falcons Academy

Academy Squad size; (8/15)
Acamdemy Captain; Joel Hodgson

HK - George McGuigan (30/3/1993) [IRL]
TH - Scott Wilson (18 years old) [ENG]
BS - Joe Robinson (6/3/1993) [ENG]
CN - Tom Casson [ENG] England U20 Squad
FH - Joel Hodgson (1/8/1992) [ENG]
FB/WG - Ben Ransom () [ENG] England U20 Squad
FB/WG - Zach Kirbirige (17 years old) [ENG]

by Bathite Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:13 pm

Didn't realise he was injured, that's changed things a bit. I'm not keen on losing Perenise, come 3Ns, he'll be first choice and a great impact, but if it meant getting a gain elsewhere and he was on your list...

How about then

Heathcote + Welch
4
Clegg + Lund
?

by Sgt_Pooly Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:31 pm

4m deal

by Bathite Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:09 pm

Bathite wrote:Didn't realise he was injured, that's changed things a bit. I'm not keen on losing Perenise, come 3Ns, he'll be first choice and a great impact, but if it meant getting a gain elsewhere and he was on your list...

How about then

Heathcote + Welch
4
Clegg + Lund
?

Thoughts chap?

by Londonirishollie Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:44 pm

I don't see the benefits of Kaino over Burger outweighing the negatives of losing Kubs for Wilson.

Any chance of getting Thompstone or Mark Wilson in a smaller deal?

by beshocked Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:12 pm

Apologies for not responding sooner Fluxy.

Thanks for the advice.

Not sure I want to lose many of my English youngsters. They are young and English plus great prospects.

What are you willing to offer me for Farrell? I think he would strengthen your options at fly half and allow Pienaar to be scrum half.

by beshocked Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:59 am

Not going to lose Parra because he works well with Brock. They are an unit. I will either sell both for a good deal or neither.

I am interested in Kaino.

Offers for Farrell and others are welcome though.

by beshocked Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:53 am

Sorry Fluxy that wouldn't work. I rate all my players higher. I like to think most people would agree.

by beshocked Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:12 pm

Both?

How about Kaino for Joubert and other (you specify)

by beshocked Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:28 pm

I mean that I can't give you two of my backrowers for Kaino.

Kaino is an excellent player but he is not worth both Kelly Brown and Ernst Joubert IMO. Their total value is more.

Ernst Joubert is arguably the best no 8 in the AP.

Kelly Brown is one of the best 6s in the NH. Arguably Scotland's most valuable player.

My offer is one of my backrowers and someone else. If you feel it's not enough just say so.

by stnick88 Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:37 pm

paice, kaino, shingler?

by prop_lyd Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:45 pm

Interested in Brussouw, Tuilagi and Stegman

by Fluxy Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:17 pm

Make me offer guys, would be better than saying who you're interested in

by prop_lyd Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:20 pm

I've got EFS, Strokosch, Tindall, POSSIBLY JSD, S.Lawson, R.Lawson avaiulable

by prop_lyd Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:42 pm

I'm not looking to sell Burns or Lambie.

Who would you do for EFS? I'd be interested in Tuilagi defs!

by prop_lyd Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:36 pm

Think I'd be losing out with Shingler

by prop_lyd Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:41 pm

I'm after front rowers, 7, scrum half and inside centre.

by pullthestrings Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:57 pm

Mafi, Evans, Allinson, King, Ojo, and Thompstone all tickle my fancy.

Would Gibson or Lahiff be available, do I have any players which interest you for them, and the above?

==

Hi mate

Mafi/Evans could go, I would need Casey/Swinson in return at least though, just so I have lock cover.

Could look at an Allinson/Hodgson swap.. Allinson in better form though.

Would struggle to lose King I think.

Ojo and Thompstone could be available for cash - around £17 mil.

Let me know what you think.

by pullthestrings Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:08 pm

Swinson + Welch + Hodgson + Tuilagi
=
Mafi + Gibson + Allinson + Ojo/thompstone

==

If you're not looking to spend money, I'd need some big players in there eg Corbs, Hudson, Kaino, Brussow, Pienaar....

Otherwise I'm just slightly weakening my side each time as I rate all mine in the above higher than their counterparts. Sorry mate.

by Driver Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:04 am

Daley is a NFS.

I am interested in Tim Swinson though as he is a personal fav.

by Driver Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:09 am

I'm not sure , Build me a offer and i'll let you know.

Players i'm interested in are

Hienrich Brussouw
Tim Swinson
Ruan Pienaar
Tom Heathcote
Steven Shingler

by stnick88 Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:49 am

sorry mate no for me parisse is best 8 in the world.
i also think kaino is the best 6 but with him moving to japan it might affect his rating.

what about paice and shingler?

by prop_lyd Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:35 pm

Can't let JVN and Narraway go!!

by prop_lyd Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:44 pm

Just seen Tuilagi's off to Japan so not sure! Looking at a 7 mainly

by prop_lyd Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:50 pm

Narraway and Strokosch?!

by prop_lyd Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:05 pm

Swap Poff for Kaino?

by Driver Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:07 pm

Rate all my players higher fella

by Driver Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:14 pm

Yeah i did but i'm not interested in 40 year old who's set to retire lol.

by beshocked Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:35 pm

No sorry Fluxy.

Spencer > Hodgson - if he can outplay Yachvili and make Stringer benchwarm he's doing a bloody good job. Probably Saracen's best performer in the HC.

Farrell > Heathcote - English international vs an inexperienced youngster - no contest.

Tuilagi is better than Ransom but much older - less potential.

In my opinion of course. Plus all three of my players are English.

by Driver Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:57 pm

Not interested fella.

Could we not do a deal for Shingler?

by beshocked Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:25 pm

We'll have to agree to disagree about Heathcote. I personally can't understand your viewpoint but that's your opinion so fair enough.

by beshocked Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:29 pm

I feel like the bad guy. Cool

I rate all my players higher - hence why you want them!

As cruel as it is I am not a fan of any of those 3 players.

I definitely prefer Parra to Pienaar. Brock with his performance against Sarries recently has really made me warm to him. I already have the best Hodgson there is!

Farrell vs Heathcote - my answer is obvious!

P.S to make a deal with me it needs to be balanced.

by beshocked Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:51 pm

Sorry Fluxy RIP Driver's offer is more compelling.

Still Ransom is available.

by Driver Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:01 pm

Johnstone + Brookes + Skivington

for

Wilson + Corbisero

by Driver Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:05 pm

And a Lock who should be playing shed loads next season for London Irish with Kenndo off and Casey retiring.

Brookes can play all across the front row.

by Driver Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:15 pm

What about

Corbs + Mark Wilson + Joe Robinson

for

Brookes + Easter + Robson

by CJB Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:51 pm

Kaino + Shingler + Wilson + Poff
=
Morgan + Nonu + Tomaz + Fasa

Kaino > Morgan....Different positions Morgan fits better in my team and EQ is important
Nonu >> Shingler
Wilson > Tomas
Poff < Fasa which I've told you I rate before if you check

by CJB Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:57 pm

Waldouck isn't better than two England Saxons.

by Driver Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:05 pm

Would want Corbs in a deal.

by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:54 pm

I really like him with Hudson but he never seemed to get a look in with Gold.

Would need a lot more cash for Deacon pretty set tbh.

Cant see anything mate sorry

by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:59 pm

Nah mate sorry

by Driver Tue May 01, 2012 9:36 pm

Heathcote in a deal for Cipriani?

by Driver Tue May 01, 2012 9:53 pm

Could lose Robson and JJ in a deal for Corbs?

by stnick88 Thu May 03, 2012 9:48 am

cant do that mate Brown has had a much better season than Bendy.

by CJB Thu May 03, 2012 6:36 pm

Preferred last offer, gonna structure this same way

Kaino => Nonu (Reasons stated)
Morgan >> Shingler (EQ and different quality)
Haskell >> Hala (EQ and different quality)
Fasa = Poff (Fasa better player but Poof probably better 7)

So basically I get a small gain especially with Kaino in Japan....not at all worth it

by CJB Thu May 03, 2012 7:08 pm

Teams aren't up to same standard which usually means your standard drops and you don't play against quality so you can't really be rated.

by CJB Thu May 03, 2012 7:34 pm

Two years in an inferior league with no internationals. Many analysts in NZ think he won't ever get the jersey back

by Driver Fri May 04, 2012 1:02 pm

Evans + George Robson

for

Brussouw + Heathcote?

by CJB Sun May 06, 2012 11:12 pm

How I see offer

Kaino = Nonu
Kaino best 6 in world for me while Nonu 2nd best 12. However Kaino heading off top Japan so give it as equal
Morgan > Corbs
Both established England players. Think Morgan is higher up ranking of 8's than Corbs at 1's. Morgan is also coming to prem and has more potential, such a raw talent
Haskell >> Hala'faluia
Haskell for me should be back up to England's starting back row.
Mullan >> Waldouck
Mullan is a fringe EPS

Still no reason I would do it, not even a tempter. I'm a big fan of Shingler possibly prefer him to Waldouck, young and talented

by CJB Sun May 06, 2012 11:37 pm

I'd be more likely to do a deal with Brussow than Kaino since I already have Haskell

by CJB Sun May 06, 2012 11:45 pm

But you don't have a 12 the quality of Nonu...

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