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Post by Union Cane Tue 10 Jan 2012, 2:01 pm

Here's one to get you thinking...

Take the original 8 weight classes, and pick the fighter you think is currently the best in each division.

Heavyweight
Light Heavyweight
Middleweight
Welterweight
Lightweight
Featherweight
Bantamweight
Flyweight

Then, pound for pound, match them against each other as follows :

1. Heavy vs Light
2. Light Heavy vs Feather
3. Middle vs Bantam
4. Welter vs Fly

Then match the winners as follows :

Winner 1 vs Winner 4
Winner 2 vs Winner 3

Then, finally, match up the two remaining fighters.

Who comes out on top?



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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 10 Jan 2012, 2:08 pm

Cool idea, Union.

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Post by Union Cane Tue 10 Jan 2012, 2:10 pm

Thanks mate, that means a lot.

Who's your winner?
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 10 Jan 2012, 2:12 pm

Union Cane wrote:Thanks mate, that means a lot.

Who's your winner?

Haven't got the foggiest.

Good idea though.

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Post by The genius of PBF Tue 10 Jan 2012, 2:14 pm

Heavyweight - Wladimir Klitschko
Light Heavyweight - Chad Dawson
Middleweight - Sergio Martinez
Welterweight - Floyd Mayweather
Lightweight - Juan Manuel Marquez
Featherweight - Yuriorkis Gamboa
Bantamweight - Nonito Donaire
Flyweight - Pongsaklek Wonjongkam

Floyd Mayweather

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Post by Rowley Tue 10 Jan 2012, 2:20 pm

Heavyweight - Floyd Mayweather
Light Heavyweight - Floyd Mayweather
Middleweight - Floyd Mayweather
Welterweight - Floyd Mayweather
Lightweight - Floyd Mayweather
Featherweight - Floyd Mayweather
Bantamweight - Floyd Mayweather
Flyweight - Floyd Mayweather

Floyd Mayweather

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Post by Union Cane Tue 10 Jan 2012, 2:23 pm

wlad vs marquez
bhop vs gamboa
martinez vs donaire
mayweather vs pongsaklek

wlad vs gamboa
donaire vs mayweather

gamboa vs mayweather

mayweather
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 10 Jan 2012, 2:23 pm

rowley wrote:Heavyweight - Floyd Mayweather
Light Heavyweight - Floyd Mayweather
Middleweight - Floyd Mayweather
Welterweight - Floyd Mayweather
Lightweight - Floyd Mayweather
Featherweight - Floyd Mayweather
Bantamweight - Floyd Mayweather
Flyweight - Floyd Mayweather

Floyd Mayweather

If you're going to enter Union's tournament Jeff, at least take it seriously.

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Post by Rowley Tue 10 Jan 2012, 2:25 pm

Wasn't me that was relegated last time round.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 10 Jan 2012, 2:29 pm

rowley wrote:Wasn't me that was relegated last time round.

I'm not talking about the UCPL.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 10 Jan 2012, 2:41 pm

Just a quick question before I post. What old school weight class would super bantam fall under?
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Post by Fists of Fury Tue 10 Jan 2012, 2:43 pm

Gamboa beats Wladimir? Seen it all now!

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Post by Union Cane Tue 10 Jan 2012, 2:45 pm

Feather

It's a Gamboa scaled up to 6'6 remember Fists...
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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 10 Jan 2012, 2:55 pm

Cheers mate.

Heavy- Wlad Klitschko
Lightheavy- Hopkins
Middle- Martinez
Welter- Mayweather
Lightweight- J.M Marquez
Feather- Nishioka
Bantam- Donaire
Flyweight- Wonjongkam

Wlad K vs Marquez
Hopkins vs Nishioka
Martinez vs Donaire
Mayweather vs Wonjongkam

Marquez vs Mayweather
Hopkins vs Donaire

Mayweather vs Donaire

Predictably Mayweather wins. Now I await the abuse for placing Nishioka ahead of Gamboa! boxing
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Post by Fists of Fury Tue 10 Jan 2012, 3:11 pm

Oh, missed the pound for pound part - I thought it was ridiculous even by your standards, Union! Wink

Yeah have to disagree there SRR, Gamboa for me.

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Post by superflyweight Tue 10 Jan 2012, 3:15 pm

I look forward to the results of a reverse p4p tournament.

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Post by Union Cane Tue 10 Jan 2012, 3:21 pm

It seems that my reputation preceeds me in such a way that I am now unable to produce a serious article.
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Post by Steffan Tue 10 Jan 2012, 3:27 pm

Union Cane wrote:It seems that my reputation preceeds me in such a way that I am now unable to produce a serious article.

You get used to it dont worry Very Happy

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 10 Jan 2012, 6:12 pm

Heavyweight- Vitali
Light Heavyweight- Hopkins
Middleweight- Martinez
Welterweight- Mayweather
Lightweight- Marquez
Featherweight- Gamboa
Bantamweight- Donaire
Flyweight- Wonjongkam

Marquez bts Vitali
Gamboa bts Hopkins
Donaire bts Martinez
Mayweather bts Wonjongkam

Mayweather bts Marquez
Gamboa bts Donaire

Mayweather bts Gamboa

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 10 Jan 2012, 9:20 pm

Fists of Fury wrote:Oh, missed the pound for pound part - I thought it was ridiculous even by your standards, Union! Wink

Yeah have to disagree there SRR, Gamboa for me.

I'm a big fan of Gamboa but if your talking P4P then Nishioka gets it on longevity imo.
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Post by zx1234 Tue 10 Jan 2012, 10:08 pm

Heavyweight- Wladimir Klitschko
Light Heavyweight- Dawson
Middleweight- Martinez
Welterweight- Mayweather
Lightweight- Marquez
Featherweight- Gamboa
Bantamweight- Donaire
Flyweight- Wonjongkam

1. Wlad bts Marquez
2. Gamboa bts Dawson
3. Donaire bts Martinez
4. Mayweather bts Wonjongkam

Wlad bts Mayweather
Donaire bts Gamboa

Donaire bts Wlad

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Post by johnson2 Wed 11 Jan 2012, 12:40 pm

Union Cane wrote:Feather

It's a Gamboa scaled up to 6'6 remember Fists...

Then he would be slow.

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Post by bhb001 Wed 11 Jan 2012, 1:25 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Union Cane wrote:Thanks mate, that means a lot.

Who's your winner?

Haven't got the foggiest.

Good idea though.

Best laugh of the day. I'll be chuckling for ages over that one

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Post by bhb001 Wed 11 Jan 2012, 1:27 pm

Fists of Fury wrote:Gamboa beats Wladimir? Seen it all now!

Gets stuck in Wlad's throat

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Post by Union Cane Wed 11 Jan 2012, 1:58 pm

johnson2 wrote:
Union Cane wrote:Feather

It's a Gamboa scaled up to 6'6 remember Fists...

Then he would be slow.

Ok, scale Wlad down to 5'5.

It's all P4P subjective nonsense anyway.
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Post by AlexHuckerby Wed 11 Jan 2012, 2:07 pm

It's impossible to do this surely? Headscratch

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed 11 Jan 2012, 2:10 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:It's impossible to do this surely? Headscratch

Welcome to a Union Cane thread.

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Post by Union Cane Wed 11 Jan 2012, 2:13 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:It's impossible to do this surely? Headscratch

Do you understand P4P Alex?
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Post by Rowley Wed 11 Jan 2012, 2:18 pm

Union Cane wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:It's impossible to do this surely? Headscratch

Do you understand P4P Alex?

About as well as he understands libraries it would appear.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Wed 11 Jan 2012, 2:58 pm

Well, yes I completely understand it but having P4P head to heads like this makes no sense, are we meant to just imagine Floyd mayweather up as high as 6"6 and retaining all the speed or something? It makes no sense at all, does he have the same power as he does at welterweight? Whats altered? It's ridiculous if you ask me.

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Post by Union Cane Wed 11 Jan 2012, 2:59 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:It's ridiculous if you ask me.

I didn't.

If you can't grasp the concept, don't have a go.
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Post by AlexHuckerby Wed 11 Jan 2012, 3:04 pm

I just don't understand it, what are the variables that are going to change, because in essence you move Floyd up to Heavyweight, his entire skill set changes, he no longer has the same kind of speed what happens to his power is it the same or what?

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Post by Union Cane Wed 11 Jan 2012, 3:07 pm

You don't move him up to heavyweight or anywhere else, it is Floyd the boxer we are judging, removing any height / weight (dis)advantages and basing it purely on boxing ability.
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Post by AlexHuckerby Wed 11 Jan 2012, 3:09 pm

I honestly don't get it so I think I'm gonna have to bow out Union...

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Post by Union Cane Wed 11 Jan 2012, 3:11 pm

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