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So...now that I have finally got a striker how do you rate Kerzhakov?

He's not Suarez...

Any RW's going? - I mean good ones.

Fan I made you an offer

Bookmarking.

Hey Fury - could you change the link to Benfica to my team page please, not YI's?

https://www.606v2.com/t21955-sl-benfica

Cheers

I haven't got any money now

When did Hatem Ben Arfa join Newcastle? i know he was on loan there for a while but didn't think he signed until last January?

didnt ask if he was Suarez lol

Macclads wrote:Rule has always been in place in the league that a player has to have completed one full season at his RL club before a transfer can be considered.

In other cases it's been one full year.

On that basis it should be a yes, or it will be a yes if I repeat the offer on 31st January if you want to be specific?

fernando wrote:When did Hatem Ben Arfa join Newcastle? i know he was on loan there for a while but didn't think he signed until last January?

Cause the TP system is BS!

Electric Demon wrote:I haven't got any money now

did you not get sponsors cash for a draw? I'm pretty sure you would have done, so best to check your sponsorship.

twist - wait till tomorrow, give me time to find a replacement, if i do you can have him mate

fernando wrote:When did Hatem Ben Arfa join Newcastle? i know he was on loan there for a while but didn't think he signed until last January?

I checked earlier and it was January 5th 2011, so being a year ago (plus loan spell) I thought I was within bounds with my bid. Either way, he's mine now!

sodhat wrote:

fernando wrote:When did Hatem Ben Arfa join Newcastle? i know he was on loan there for a while but didn't think he signed until last January?

I checked earlier and it was January 5th 2011, so being a year ago (plus loan spell) I thought I was within bounds with my bid. Either way, he's mine now!

See that for proof of my argument.

Fan Gilhaus wrote:twist - wait till tomorrow, give me time to find a replacement, if i do you can have him mate

Ok Fan

When is the time up for lawyers? I know it is tomorrow, but is the deadline 5pm tomorrow?

I only get cash for a win. And it's only £1m per win.

YI's got an eye for players, but financially he's a catastrophe. Good job an accountant is on board now

Ben Arfa in that case was an error to be allowed through as he should not be allowed until the summer, an oversight based on him being on loan there first.
Other people have missed out in the past couple of weeks due to this rule including both Twist and myself trying for Torres.

We have to work through quite a number of these transfers every day and reach a majority decision for them. There's been ones in the past that in hindsight we wish we could reverse (M'Vila going so cheaply to Liverpool, Ganso coming into the league, Reus joining Schalke) but we can't and some people as a result will be unhappy with the result but it will not change the decision.

right tps in for tomorrow

cya

Macclads wrote:Ben Arfa in that case was an error to be allowed through as he should not be allowed until the summer, an oversight based on him being on loan there first.
Other people have missed out in the past couple of weeks due to this rule including both Twist and myself trying for Torres.

We have to work through quite a number of these transfers every day and reach a majority decision for them. There's been ones in the past that in hindsight we wish we could reverse (M'Vila going so cheaply to Liverpool, Ganso coming into the league, Reus joining Schalke) but we can't and some people as a result will be unhappy with the result but it will not change the decision.

Unless your Porto, Lyon or Roma

Macclads wrote:Ben Arfa in that case was an error to be allowed through as he should not be allowed until the summer, an oversight based on him being on loan there first.
Other people have missed out in the past couple of weeks due to this rule including both Twist and myself trying for Torres.

We have to work through quite a number of these transfers every day and reach a majority decision for them. There's been ones in the past that in hindsight we wish we could reverse (M'Vila going so cheaply to Liverpool, Ganso coming into the league, Reus joining Schalke) but we can't and some people as a result will be unhappy with the result but it will not change the decision.

I didn't realise the rule was one season -- I thought it was one calendar year, and I don't seem to be the only one that thought that. Are we saying now it is one full season only, so August to May?

I'm not trying to stoke the fire or cause trouble, but if I we confirm that is the case people can't complain like this.

lol

So which is it? 1 year or 1 full season?

Its always meant to be the case that it is a season.

I personally have argued that it should be an exact year but that would then go against previous decisions made on transfers.

Anyone that does sales of players that are obviously to the detriment of the club in a hissy fit will have the decision reversed.

Macclads wrote:Anyone that does sales of players that are obviously to the detriment of the club in a hissy fit will have the decision reversed.

I was waiting on that.

Don't panic Hero, it's all a wind up.

I've decided i'm no longer using the TP system until it's consistent and it's clarified. I don't want to spend evenings at work moaning about this decision and that decision.

I'm content with my squad, and will still be dealing with other Furious League sides.

TwisT wrote:

Fan Gilhaus wrote:twist - wait till tomorrow, give me time to find a replacement, if i do you can have him mate

Ok Fan

When is the time up for lawyers? I know it is tomorrow, but is the deadline 5pm tomorrow?

Hi guys, can I have an answer to this. Is it 5pm tomorrow that the lawyers deadline is?

I thought the TP system worked brilliantly. I went in, out, got my man, good price, happy!

Electric Demon wrote:I thought the TP system worked brilliantly. I went in, out, got my man, good price, happy!

It's just so inconsistent Demon. See if you agree when perfectly good deals are rejected.

The tp system is never going to be perfectly consistent.

There are too many enquiries to remember them all and to het everyone perfectly rigjt.

If you remember that the runners spend a lot of their own time making this league work as best as they can and perhaps you should cut them some slack when something slips througj but mistake.

I speak from experience that is the hardest part of running to get right

Macclads wrote:(Reus joining Schalke)

If you're not happy Hero, get him out of the league None o us would complain (lol)

Yeah cut them some slack guys. There will always be some that slip through the net. The runners never try and make things fit their own purposes, and everyone is, or at least tried to be, treated the same.

If we argue about the where's and why fors about it, then the whole fun part of it gets taken out.

Back to football matters....is Nolito worth hanging onto or is Ibrahim Afellay a good enough upgrade?

And bent was rejected for someone else less than a week ago the most consistent answer was no.

The error today was not bent but ben arfa

I've let the matter go now Afro, but my issue was Bent has been a Villa player for over 1 year, and I (as well as some others) was under the impression they had to be at their club for 1 year, and not 1 full season as recently mentioned by Macclads.

If a player is on loan to a club, he is not allowed to play against his parent club. Is that correct?

Marky wrote:I've let the matter go now Afro, but my issue was Bent has been a Villa player for over 1 year, and I (as well as some others) was under the impression they had to be at their club for 1 year, and not 1 full season as recently mentioned by Macclads.

I'd actually prefer that system as well but it's been the other ruling since it began so we'd be going against other TPs that have been previously rejected by now allowing them.

TSC wrote:If a player is on loan to a club, he is not allowed to play against his parent club. Is that correct?

It depends entirely on the agreement between managers/clubs I think. Are you asking RL or FL?

sodhat wrote:

TSC wrote:If a player is on loan to a club, he is not allowed to play against his parent club. Is that correct?

It depends entirely on the agreement between managers/clubs I think. Are you asking RL or FL?

Both.

It would have to be stipulated in the agreement I believe.

TSC wrote:

sodhat wrote:

TSC wrote:If a player is on loan to a club, he is not allowed to play against his parent club. Is that correct?

It depends entirely on the agreement between managers/clubs I think. Are you asking RL or FL?

Both.

I may be wrong but I think the Premier League has a ruling that players cannot play against parent clubs when on loan now.

But in the FL, I imagine it comes down to agreement between managers.

Right, cheers guys. Not good for me then :/

Doing these tactics for the Europa Cup. Injury-hit this week.

Ben Arfa, Krul and Berbatov were the standout errors for me, as well as the Henrique fee.

Still, done now, I shall be confirming Jung and joining Marky in no longer using TP's!

Euro tactics tomorrow, might go with youth!

Cutting nose to spite face sounds a great idea there KB.

What is the fee being discussed by QPR to make the deal permanent?
5m

Your deal was accepted, so was mine.
Henrique's national language is Portuguese, Porto are short on strikers, Porto often bring across Brazilians, Porto are in the champions cup.
If the majority of people feel that was the wrong decision (of which I was no part of discussions) I will happily sell him to Beer for the price I paid.

I don't know who you're talking about so I can't comment. Is this the same Henrique guy who signed (or will be signing) for someone today?

He's supposedly going to QPR, yes. Seems like a decent prospect, but clearly has to prove himself.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16596491.stm

For QPR yes.

Now with most transfers when it's looks a deal in real life they are turned down if the clubs involved are bigger ie Cahill was repeatedly rejected due to the real life interest by Chelsea.
In the cases where it's not 100% certain that a deal is going ahead to a FL club then we err on the side of caution until it is agreed, last week was the case with Pato and Abidal, both were heavily rumoured to be pretty nailed on leaving their clubs and we could have at that point said yes fine with the TPs, but as shown they didn't happen in real life.
In the case of Henrique, in RL he's moving to QPR, now as they aren't a huge club it was felt that both Leverkusen and Porto could hijack this move as they're bigger clubs, as shown with the reasons above the player then chose Porto over Leverkusen.

He does look a decent player, got the golden boot at the recent under 20s world cup and helped Brazil win the trophy.

My only point was that my fee was £7m after the loan as that was the preference for the club, but you got him without the loan for a lower fee. I don't dispute the reason he would go to Porto.

It's not cutting my nose off, as Marky said, it's too inconsistent and over inflated prices make it even more frustrating.

But the point was the club were happy to agree to both offers for Henrique as both matched the fee QPR were paying. It was down to what was felt the player would choose as the reason he went to Porto.

QPR are gutted. They were banking on Henrique to replace Helguson.

Epic balls up Sparky