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Post by nick_fury Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:35 pm


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Post by Fan Gilhaus Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:38 pm

So...now that I have finally got a striker how do you rate Kerzhakov?

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Post by ADMIN Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:38 pm

He's not Suarez... Whistle

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Post by TwisT Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:39 pm

Any RW's going? - I mean good ones.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:39 pm

Bookmarking.

Hey Fury - could you change the link to Benfica to my team page please, not YI's?

https://www.606v2.com/t21955-sl-benfica

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:39 pm

I haven't got any money now Laugh

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Post by Fernando Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:40 pm

When did Hatem Ben Arfa join Newcastle? i know he was on loan there for a while but didn't think he signed until last January?

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Post by Fan Gilhaus Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:40 pm

didnt ask if he was Suarez lol

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Post by Marky Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:41 pm

Macclads wrote:Rule has always been in place in the league that a player has to have completed one full season at his RL club before a transfer can be considered.

In other cases it's been one full year.

On that basis it should be a yes, or it will be a yes if I repeat the offer on 31st January if you want to be specific?

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Post by Beer Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:41 pm

fernando wrote:When did Hatem Ben Arfa join Newcastle? i know he was on loan there for a while but didn't think he signed until last January?

Cause the TP system is BS!

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Post by sodhat Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:42 pm

Electric Demon wrote:I haven't got any money now Laugh

did you not get sponsors cash for a draw? I'm pretty sure you would have done, so best to check your sponsorship.

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Post by Fan Gilhaus Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:42 pm

twist - wait till tomorrow, give me time to find a replacement, if i do you can have him mate

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Post by sodhat Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:43 pm

fernando wrote:When did Hatem Ben Arfa join Newcastle? i know he was on loan there for a while but didn't think he signed until last January?

I checked earlier and it was January 5th 2011, so being a year ago (plus loan spell) I thought I was within bounds with my bid. Either way, he's mine now!

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Post by Marky Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:44 pm

sodhat wrote:
fernando wrote:When did Hatem Ben Arfa join Newcastle? i know he was on loan there for a while but didn't think he signed until last January?

I checked earlier and it was January 5th 2011, so being a year ago (plus loan spell) I thought I was within bounds with my bid. Either way, he's mine now!

See that for proof of my argument.

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Post by TwisT Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:45 pm

Fan Gilhaus wrote:twist - wait till tomorrow, give me time to find a replacement, if i do you can have him mate

thumbsup Ok Fan

When is the time up for lawyers? I know it is tomorrow, but is the deadline 5pm tomorrow?

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:45 pm

I only get cash for a win. And it's only £1m per win.

YI's got an eye for players, but financially he's a catastrophe. Good job an accountant is on board now Laugh

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Post by ADMIN Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:51 pm

Ben Arfa in that case was an error to be allowed through as he should not be allowed until the summer, an oversight based on him being on loan there first.
Other people have missed out in the past couple of weeks due to this rule including both Twist and myself trying for Torres.

We have to work through quite a number of these transfers every day and reach a majority decision for them. There's been ones in the past that in hindsight we wish we could reverse (M'Vila going so cheaply to Liverpool, Ganso coming into the league, Reus joining Schalke) but we can't and some people as a result will be unhappy with the result but it will not change the decision.



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Post by Fan Gilhaus Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:52 pm

right tps in for tomorrow

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Post by Beer Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:53 pm

Macclads wrote:Ben Arfa in that case was an error to be allowed through as he should not be allowed until the summer, an oversight based on him being on loan there first.
Other people have missed out in the past couple of weeks due to this rule including both Twist and myself trying for Torres.

We have to work through quite a number of these transfers every day and reach a majority decision for them. There's been ones in the past that in hindsight we wish we could reverse (M'Vila going so cheaply to Liverpool, Ganso coming into the league, Reus joining Schalke) but we can't and some people as a result will be unhappy with the result but it will not change the decision.



Unless your Porto, Lyon or Roma Whistle

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Post by sodhat Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:54 pm

Macclads wrote:Ben Arfa in that case was an error to be allowed through as he should not be allowed until the summer, an oversight based on him being on loan there first.
Other people have missed out in the past couple of weeks due to this rule including both Twist and myself trying for Torres.

We have to work through quite a number of these transfers every day and reach a majority decision for them. There's been ones in the past that in hindsight we wish we could reverse (M'Vila going so cheaply to Liverpool, Ganso coming into the league, Reus joining Schalke) but we can't and some people as a result will be unhappy with the result but it will not change the decision.



I didn't realise the rule was one season -- I thought it was one calendar year, and I don't seem to be the only one that thought that. Are we saying now it is one full season only, so August to May?

I'm not trying to stoke the fire or cause trouble, but if I we confirm that is the case people can't complain like this.

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Post by Fan Gilhaus Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:55 pm

lol

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Post by Marky Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:56 pm

So which is it? 1 year or 1 full season?

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Post by ADMIN Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:58 pm

Its always meant to be the case that it is a season.

I personally have argued that it should be an exact year but that would then go against previous decisions made on transfers.

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Post by ADMIN Tue 17 Jan 2012, 5:12 pm

Anyone that does sales of players that are obviously to the detriment of the club in a hissy fit will have the decision reversed.

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Post by Marky Tue 17 Jan 2012, 5:13 pm

Macclads wrote:Anyone that does sales of players that are obviously to the detriment of the club in a hissy fit will have the decision reversed.

Laugh

I was waiting on that.

Don't panic Hero, it's all a wind up.

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Post by Marky Tue 17 Jan 2012, 5:42 pm

I've decided i'm no longer using the TP system until it's consistent and it's clarified. I don't want to spend evenings at work moaning about this decision and that decision.

I'm content with my squad, and will still be dealing with other Furious League sides.

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Post by TwisT Tue 17 Jan 2012, 5:54 pm

TwisT wrote:
Fan Gilhaus wrote:twist - wait till tomorrow, give me time to find a replacement, if i do you can have him mate

thumbsup Ok Fan

When is the time up for lawyers? I know it is tomorrow, but is the deadline 5pm tomorrow?

Hi guys, can I have an answer to this. Is it 5pm tomorrow that the lawyers deadline is?

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Tue 17 Jan 2012, 5:57 pm

I thought the TP system worked brilliantly. I went in, out, got my man, good price, happy!

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Post by Marky Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:02 pm

Electric Demon wrote:I thought the TP system worked brilliantly. I went in, out, got my man, good price, happy!

It's just so inconsistent Demon. See if you agree when perfectly good deals are rejected.

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Post by Afro Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:12 pm

The tp system is never going to be perfectly consistent.

There are too many enquiries to remember them all and to het everyone perfectly rigjt.

If you remember that the runners spend a lot of their own time making this league work as best as they can and perhaps you should cut them some slack when something slips througj but mistake.

I speak from experience that is the hardest part of running to get right
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Post by The Special Juan Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:14 pm

Macclads wrote:(Reus joining Schalke)

If you're not happy Hero, get him out of the league Very Happy None o us would complain (lol)
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Post by TwisT Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:15 pm

Yeah cut them some slack guys. There will always be some that slip through the net. The runners never try and make things fit their own purposes, and everyone is, or at least tried to be, treated the same.

If we argue about the where's and why fors about it, then the whole fun part of it gets taken out.

Back to football matters....is Nolito worth hanging onto or is Ibrahim Afellay a good enough upgrade?

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Post by Afro Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:16 pm

And bent was rejected for someone else less than a week ago the most consistent answer was no.

The error today was not bent but ben arfa

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Post by Marky Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:17 pm

I've let the matter go now Afro, but my issue was Bent has been a Villa player for over 1 year, and I (as well as some others) was under the impression they had to be at their club for 1 year, and not 1 full season as recently mentioned by Macclads.

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Post by The Special Juan Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:23 pm

If a player is on loan to a club, he is not allowed to play against his parent club. Is that correct?
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Post by ADMIN Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:31 pm

Marky wrote:I've let the matter go now Afro, but my issue was Bent has been a Villa player for over 1 year, and I (as well as some others) was under the impression they had to be at their club for 1 year, and not 1 full season as recently mentioned by Macclads.

I'd actually prefer that system as well but it's been the other ruling since it began so we'd be going against other TPs that have been previously rejected by now allowing them.

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Post by sodhat Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:34 pm

TSC wrote:If a player is on loan to a club, he is not allowed to play against his parent club. Is that correct?

It depends entirely on the agreement between managers/clubs I think. Are you asking RL or FL?

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Post by The Special Juan Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:36 pm

sodhat wrote:
TSC wrote:If a player is on loan to a club, he is not allowed to play against his parent club. Is that correct?

It depends entirely on the agreement between managers/clubs I think. Are you asking RL or FL?

Both.
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Post by ADMIN Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:36 pm

It would have to be stipulated in the agreement I believe.

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Post by sodhat Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:39 pm

TSC wrote:
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TSC wrote:If a player is on loan to a club, he is not allowed to play against his parent club. Is that correct?

It depends entirely on the agreement between managers/clubs I think. Are you asking RL or FL?

Both.

I may be wrong but I think the Premier League has a ruling that players cannot play against parent clubs when on loan now.

But in the FL, I imagine it comes down to agreement between managers.

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Post by The Special Juan Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:43 pm

Right, cheers guys. Not good for me then :/

Doing these tactics for the Europa Cup. Injury-hit this week.
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Post by Beer Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:44 pm

Ben Arfa, Krul and Berbatov were the standout errors for me, as well as the Henrique fee.

Still, done now, I shall be confirming Jung and joining Marky in no longer using TP's!

Euro tactics tomorrow, might go with youth!

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Post by ADMIN Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:53 pm

Cutting nose to spite face sounds a great idea there KB.

What is the fee being discussed by QPR to make the deal permanent?
5m

Your deal was accepted, so was mine.
Henrique's national language is Portuguese, Porto are short on strikers, Porto often bring across Brazilians, Porto are in the champions cup.
If the majority of people feel that was the wrong decision (of which I was no part of discussions) I will happily sell him to Beer for the price I paid.

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Post by The Special Juan Tue 17 Jan 2012, 6:56 pm

I don't know who you're talking about so I can't comment. Is this the same Henrique guy who signed (or will be signing) for someone today?
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Post by sodhat Tue 17 Jan 2012, 7:01 pm

He's supposedly going to QPR, yes. Seems like a decent prospect, but clearly has to prove himself.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16596491.stm

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Post by ADMIN Tue 17 Jan 2012, 7:03 pm

For QPR yes.

Now with most transfers when it's looks a deal in real life they are turned down if the clubs involved are bigger ie Cahill was repeatedly rejected due to the real life interest by Chelsea.
In the cases where it's not 100% certain that a deal is going ahead to a FL club then we err on the side of caution until it is agreed, last week was the case with Pato and Abidal, both were heavily rumoured to be pretty nailed on leaving their clubs and we could have at that point said yes fine with the TPs, but as shown they didn't happen in real life.
In the case of Henrique, in RL he's moving to QPR, now as they aren't a huge club it was felt that both Leverkusen and Porto could hijack this move as they're bigger clubs, as shown with the reasons above the player then chose Porto over Leverkusen.

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Post by ADMIN Tue 17 Jan 2012, 7:04 pm

He does look a decent player, got the golden boot at the recent under 20s world cup and helped Brazil win the trophy.

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Post by Beer Tue 17 Jan 2012, 7:24 pm

My only point was that my fee was £7m after the loan as that was the preference for the club, but you got him without the loan for a lower fee. I don't dispute the reason he would go to Porto.

It's not cutting my nose off, as Marky said, it's too inconsistent and over inflated prices make it even more frustrating.

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Post by ADMIN Tue 17 Jan 2012, 7:29 pm

But the point was the club were happy to agree to both offers for Henrique as both matched the fee QPR were paying. It was down to what was felt the player would choose as the reason he went to Porto.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Tue 17 Jan 2012, 7:35 pm

QPR are gutted. They were banking on Henrique to replace Helguson.

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