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Post by BelfastDickVet Fri 20 Jan 2012, 11:48 am


1)T Court,
2)R Best
3)J Afoa
4)J Muller (capt)
5)D Tuohy
6)S Ferris
7)C Henry
8)P Wannenburg:

15)S Terblanche
14)A Trimble
13)I Whitten
12)P Wallace
11)C Gilroy
10)I Humphreys
9)R Pienaar;

Replacements (16-23): A Kyriacou, C Black, A Macklin, L Stevenson, W Faloon, P Marshall, N Spence, A D'Arcy

Unavailable due to injury: Jared Payne (achilles), Declan Fitzpatrick (neck), Peter Nelson (knee), Darren Cave (foot

glad to see whitten in the centres as i fell he has really earned his spot, not so sure about the humphreys call as he has been so up and down recently, but i suppose why mess about with a formula that has got us this far, just hope marshy gets a good run out off the bench, i dont know why paddy Mac isnt on the bench as he seem to have recovered from injury and would have been a safer option than Macklin, probably due to lack of game time.

i really think we can win this one, its going to take everything we have but these boys are on fire at the moment and are on the verge of doing something really special for ulster rugby!

not sure of the Clermont line up yet but i will update this topic when it is released!

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Post by rodders Fri 20 Jan 2012, 12:07 pm

No Paddy McCallistair?

How much has Whitten played at 13 before? I'm assuming Spence isn't match fit?

Looks ok though, lets smash these guys! SUFTUM!
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Post by MrsP Fri 20 Jan 2012, 12:08 pm

Paddy was named in the Ravens yesterday so we knew he wasn't going.

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Post by geoff999rugby Fri 20 Jan 2012, 12:21 pm

BelfastDickVet wrote:
i dont know why paddy Mac isnt on the bench as he seem to have recovered from injury and would have been a safer option than Macklin, probably due to lack of game time.!

Nothing to do with it.

Macklin is on the bench because he is a TH

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Post by Rava Fri 20 Jan 2012, 12:31 pm

I'm very happy with this. No time to make unnecessary changes or experiments. There is enough versatility within the squad to change things mid-game if necessary. Whitten at 13 holds no worries at all. Expect Monsieur Rougerie to have a few aches on Sunday morning.

Now it's all about the attitude of the players. If from 1-23 they can return home and honestly say I gave everything for Ulster out on the pitch then I will be delighted and proud. If that gets us a favorable result then that will be magic.

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Post by MrsP Fri 20 Jan 2012, 12:39 pm

Well said Rava!

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Post by westisbest Fri 20 Jan 2012, 12:47 pm

What time is this game tomorrow lads, dont want to miss it.

Cheers.

Good luck.

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Post by rodders Fri 20 Jan 2012, 12:50 pm

4:20?...need to check, its after the Leinster game and before the Munster one I think.

Well said Rava. If we play our best I'll be happy, we've already done ourselves proud. A positive result would be a bonus but this is a great opportunity to measure ourselves against the very best. I hope the lads just go out and enjoy it.

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Post by MrsP Fri 20 Jan 2012, 12:57 pm

No!!!!!

It's 3:40pm!

15:40

In the afternoon our time.

Tomorrow!

That's Saturday.


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Post by rodders Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:02 pm

Doh well that could have been a disaster! I knew there was a 4 in there somewhere! Nice one Mrs P!
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Post by MrsP Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:08 pm

Phew Rodders!

I can just imagine the scene of you getting all set to switch on at 4:15 to discover the 1st half nearly over.

(And Ulster's TBP already in the bag !!!!)

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Post by marty2086 Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:11 pm

Just hope they dont get complacent and think a bonus point is enough need to go out and win like they did against Leicester pity they cant replicate the atmosphere

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Post by MrsP Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:17 pm

If we all cheer loudly enough at our TVs, they'll hear us!

I really don't think they will marty.

The hurt of 2010 will be there to prevent that.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:19 pm

I know for a fact none of them are going to be happy with a LBP. They are going for the WBP.

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Post by gowales Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:21 pm

Clermont's squad should be fresher than Ulster's as they rested players against Aironi. That might be the difference between the two as well as home advantage.

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Post by marty2086 Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:23 pm

I know theyll want to win as a win in France will be huge for them and give them great momentum but if theyre within 7 of Clermont going into the last 5 or 10 mins do you think theyll keep pushing or try and run down the clock? With the attacking threat Clermont have its dangerous either way

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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:24 pm

Come on Clermont. Tear 'em a new one:

http://www.asm-rugby.com/120120-compo-asm.html

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Post by Don Alfonso Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:25 pm

ASM Clermont Auvergne Squad:
(15-9): L Byrne; S Sivavatu, A Rougerie (capt), W Fofana, J Malzieu; D Skrela, M Parra;
(1-8): L Faure, B Kayser, C Ric, J Pierre, N Hines, G Vosloo, J Bardy, J Bonnaire;
Replacements (16-23): T Paulo, V Debaty, D Kotze, J Cudmore, A Lapandry, K Senio, B James, R King



Jesus Christos.

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Post by 1F'sgonnagetya! Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:27 pm

Marty, if that were the situation it would depened if they had the same number of tries as Clermont. I think if we finish within 7 and have the same number of tries, we quailfy as group winners?!

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Post by Kingshu Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:29 pm

I've always thought N Hines, is very yellow card prone, hopefully a bit of winding him up from Muller and co wouldn't go amiss to see if he can do the usual and see red, and them get a yellow

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Post by gowales Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:30 pm

I think Clermont have more tries, they thrashed Aironi 82-0!

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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:30 pm

Kingshu wrote:hopefully a bit of winding him up from Muller and co wouldn't go amiss to see if he can do the usual and see red, and them get a yellow

What a lovely way to set about playing rugby.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:31 pm

Winding up the opposition has always been a part of rugby, you fool.

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Post by marty2086 Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:32 pm

Chunky Norwich wrote:
Kingshu wrote:hopefully a bit of winding him up from Muller and co wouldn't go amiss to see if he can do the usual and see red, and them get a yellow

What a lovely way to set about playing rugby.

It worked against Leicester but then again the English and their overhyped egos its easily done

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Post by Rava Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:34 pm

gowales wrote:I think Clermont have more tries, they thrashed Aironi 82-0!
Its head to head tries that count in that situation.
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Post by rodders Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:35 pm

Clermont 18 - Ulster 25.....SUFTUM!! Yahoo
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Post by 1F'sgonnagetya! Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:35 pm

It's just a shame that Cudmore isn't starting, he's always likely to lose his cool!

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Post by Kingshu Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:37 pm

Chunky Norwich wrote:
Kingshu wrote:hopefully a bit of winding him up from Muller and co wouldn't go amiss to see if he can do the usual and see red, and them get a yellow

What a lovely way to set about playing rugby.

its part of every sport, here check it out for the gentlemanly game of cricket

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sledging_(cricket)

and don't say there isn't a team in the world that doesn't do it. Even Schoolboys wind each other up. The under 8's tag rugby prob wind each other up too, its a part of sport.

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Post by whocares Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:37 pm

Kingshu wrote:I've always thought N Hines, is very yellow card prone, hopefully a bit of winding him up from Muller and co wouldn't go amiss to see if he can do the usual and see red, and them get a yellow

quite true and he's been lucky not been yellowed against leicester from being regularly on the wrong side of the ruck...
that's probably why Hines and Cudmore rarely start together !

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:38 pm

I wouldn't bother with Chunky, from most of his posts he seems to be a (pretty rubbish) WUM. First post in this thread was "Come on Clermont". I doubt he has even seen Clermont play rugby before.

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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:42 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Winding up the opposition has always been a part of rugby, you fool.

Especially for Ulster. Who have to be the most overhyped, awful value for money side in Europe.

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Post by rodders Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:43 pm

Chunky Norwich wrote:
Kingshu wrote:hopefully a bit of winding him up from Muller and co wouldn't go amiss to see if he can do the usual and see red, and them get a yellow

What a lovely way to set about playing rugby.

We're Ulster chunky...there's nothing lovely about the way we set about playing rugby Wink
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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:43 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I wouldn't bother with Chunky, from most of his posts he seems to be a (pretty rubbish) WUM. First post in this thread was "Come on Clermont". I doubt he has even seen Clermont play rugby before.

Hmmm. Clermont's a team that are close to my heart. I've seen them a fair few times in the Flesh.

You're barking up the wrong tree here sonny jim.

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Post by marty2086 Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:44 pm

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:46 pm

Emphasis on the "pretty rubbish" WUM Wink

Are Leinster, Munster and Ulster all playing tomorrow? Will probably have to catch up the Leinster/Munster games on TG4.

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Post by MrsP Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:48 pm

Wounded Tigger???

Although clearly from a different species to the brilliant fans who travelled to Ravenhill last weekend.

On the "What happens if we both end up on 20 points?" thing.



It does go to the head to head , points then tries then point diff, but we still couldn't be separated it goes on Total tries scored.

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Post by Kingshu Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:48 pm

Chunky Norwich wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:Winding up the opposition has always been a part of rugby, you fool.

Especially for Ulster. Who have to be the most overhyped, awful value for money side in Europe.

Rory_Gallagher Today at 1:38 pm


I wouldn't bother with Chunky, from most of his posts he seems to be a (pretty rubbish) WUM. First post in this thread was "Come on Clermont". I doubt he has even seen Clermont play rugby before.


Point and case I don't believe he has seen Clermont before, and have doubts he's ever seen a rugby ball. but your right A WUm and not even a good one, not even a tesco Value WUM, lets hope he's a pound shop WUM and beaks in a few minutes. Furture posts will be ignored.

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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:50 pm

MrsP wrote:Wounded Tigger???

Although clearly from a different species to the brilliant fans who travelled to Ravenhill last weekend.

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Again, way off the mark.

If Clermont turn it on I expect a bonus point win for them.

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Post by 1F'sgonnagetya! Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:51 pm

People, let's not get too mature on Chunky, his posts have been quite funny!

Let's keep him!

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:53 pm

Meh, I find them rather boring myself. But I do agree if Clermont "turn it on" they could of course beat us quite badly. Though I have no doubt Ulster will truly be fired up for this one. I see plenty of big hits and lovely tries from both sides (but mostly from Ulster Wink)

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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:55 pm

Prediction: Clermont 34 - 14 Ulster.

Malzieu to score 2, Fofana 1 and Rougerie the other.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:57 pm

Have to say, looking at the Clermont team, the thing that sticks out of course is their very dangerous back-line. I mean, all of them are very dangerous and will punish us for any defensive mistake we make. But looking at the pack, I think ours is much better. From 1-8, the Ulster pack has been exceptional lately, every single one of them. The same can't be said for most teams.

I think our back-line will do okay too. We have the experience in guys like Pienaar, Wallace, Terblanche and Trimble, who won't let us down. We can be just as dangerous.

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Post by 1F'sgonnagetya! Fri 20 Jan 2012, 2:00 pm

I think Terblanche will be crucial, his kicking must be fantastic because if it's wayward we'll be in trouble!

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Post by marty2086 Fri 20 Jan 2012, 2:00 pm

Chunky Norwich wrote:
MrsP wrote:Wounded Tigger???

Although clearly from a different species to the brilliant fans who travelled to Ravenhill last weekend.

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Again, way off the mark.

If Clermont turn it on I expect a bonus point win for them.

If your granny was a man she would have been your Granda

your dealing in ifs and buts if Ulster turn it on they can get a bonus point win so lets watch tomorrow and see whos right

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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri 20 Jan 2012, 2:01 pm

Ulster won't beat Clermont in Clermont.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Jan 2012, 2:02 pm

marty2086 wrote:
Chunky Norwich wrote:
MrsP wrote:Wounded Tigger???

Although clearly from a different species to the brilliant fans who travelled to Ravenhill last weekend.

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Again, way off the mark.

If Clermont turn it on I expect a bonus point win for them.

If your granny was a man she would have been your Granda

your dealing in ifs and buts if Ulster turn it on they can get a bonus point win so lets watch tomorrow and see whos right

Marty - ignore him and he will go somewhere else he is not wanted Smile

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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri 20 Jan 2012, 2:05 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:he will go somewhere else he is not wanted Smile

Who gave you the keys to the planet then?

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Post by marty2086 Fri 20 Jan 2012, 2:09 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
Chunky Norwich wrote:
MrsP wrote:Wounded Tigger???

Although clearly from a different species to the brilliant fans who travelled to Ravenhill last weekend.

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Again, way off the mark.

If Clermont turn it on I expect a bonus point win for them.

If your granny was a man she would have been your Granda

your dealing in ifs and buts if Ulster turn it on they can get a bonus point win so lets watch tomorrow and see whos right

Marty - ignore him and he will go somewhere else he is not wanted Smile

Want him to stick around until after the match to see if hell admit he was wrong but they doesnt come across as someone with the intellect to grasp these kinds of concepts

with his attitude he could get a job on sky sports

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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri 20 Jan 2012, 2:16 pm

marty2086 wrote:

Want him to stick around until after the match to see if hell admit he was wrong but they doesnt come across as someone with the intellect to grasp these kinds of concepts

with his attitude he could get a job on sky sports

If Ulster win in a fair contest then they deserve all the accolades they get. And I'll come on here and say as much. I just don't think it will happen.

Ulster have a great pack. Ferris is the best 6 in the world in my opinion. A world cup winning tighthead and a class lock too. If they keep it tight, win their set piece and don't get involved in a chuck around it will give them a better chance.

But this is Clermont. They're a powerhouse. Bonnaire is class. Faure and Hines are solid and never take a backward step. Malzieu in my opinion is the most ubnderrated winger in world rugby. Defensively solid. Great under the high ball. Like lightning, good hands and a clinical finisher. Parra and Skrela are a great halfback combo. Parra will do his fair share of kicking too which will keep Clermont in Ulsters half. They'll score tries tomorrow. How will Ulster outscore them? Having said all this, I have never seen Clermont play or ever seen a rugby ball so what do I know?

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Post by rodders Fri 20 Jan 2012, 2:19 pm

Good points chunky OK
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