Nadal's challenges

by stratocumulus Wed 01 Feb 2012, 10:52 pm

Tennis fraternity is divided into two categories - rafa fans and not rafa fans. There must be a reason for this bilateral divide or rather reasons. One reason I can think of is the gamesmanship of Nadal. In the match against Djoko, there was a challenge by Nadal on his own serve to be called out because he was hit by a return winner.

My question to all of you who have watched that match that is it in the spirit of the game to go for such challenges. Another thing which has been seen is Rafa's tendency to challenge after 20 seconds. Nadal has been known for his time wasting tactics since he has started playing tours. This unsavoury unsportsmanlike behaviour is another feather in his cap.

There were two or three instances in the whole match where Djoker was visibly very upset with Nadal's late challenges. I know that discussing this on tennis forum is not going to make any difference but it will be interesting to see as what does the majority think about rafa's challenges.

by amritia3ee Wed 01 Feb 2012, 10:54 pm

You are 'wow' aren't you.

by stratocumulus Wed 01 Feb 2012, 10:57 pm

amritia3ee wrote:You are 'wow' aren't you.

I am "SPAGHETTI HANS" laughing

by Simple_Analyst Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:09 pm

Who cares.

by noleisthebest Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:10 pm

Wow, Spaghetti Smile

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by stratocumulus Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:13 pm

Simple_Analyst wrote:Who cares.

Well it seems amrita cared.
So analyst does not have anything to say on Nadal's sportsmanlike behaviour?

by amritia3ee Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:15 pm

stratocumulus wrote:
So analyst does not have anything to say on Nadal's sportsmanlike behaviour?

by stratocumulus Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:20 pm

Amrita, you were better on MTL only, as on 606 your logical ability is going down the hill. After reading some of your comments it seems like Nadal's recent decline has taken its toll on you.
I just hope that this shock will not be too much for you.
Wishing you a speedy recovery.

by amritia3ee Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:31 pm

MTL

but stratocumulus isn't on MTL. And why are you calling me 'amrita'; there's only one person on MTL who called me that lol.
Anyway my logical ability is fine, I was reading some comments on the Federer thread before the AO semi. 'Fed is going to hammer Nadal in 3 sets.' Some great quotes from you too 'Fed is going to teach him a lesson' blah blah blah.

You're still seething after the semi defeat, no Wink

by bogbrush Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:32 pm

How much did MTL pay 606v2?

by stratocumulus Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:35 pm

amritia3ee wrote:MTL but stratocumulus isn't on MTL. And why are you calling me 'amrita'; there's only one person on MTL who called me that lol.
Anyway my logical ability is fine, I was reading some comments on the Federer thread before the AO semi. 'Fed is going to hammer Nadal in 3 sets.' Some great quotes from you too 'Fed is going to teach him a lesson' blah blah blah.

You're still seething after the semi defeat, no

Amrita, you are not the only one who can have schizophrenic tendencies Very Happy

anyways I am not seething about Fed's defeat as it came on a slow like death court. All nadull did was to cover the baseline from one corner to another. We will see the result when once for a change nadal will play tennis.
Although I wouldn't hide the fact that how happy I am on seeing nadal's current state.
Don't forget its 0-7 now. It is worse than fed-al rivalary laughing

by stratocumulus Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:36 pm

bogbrush wrote:How much did MTL pay 606v2?

Well Amrita seemed to be the most popular poster when I went back there after three months. Rolling Eyes

by amritia3ee Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:37 pm

stratocumulus wrote:
Amrita, you are not the only one who can have schizophrenic tendencies

stratocumulus wrote:
We will see the result when once for a change nadal will play tennis.

What else does he play/ Squash Laugh

stratocumulus wrote:
Although I wouldn't hide the fact that how happy I am on seeing nadal's current state.
Don't forget its 0-7 now. It is worse than fed-al rivalary

18-9
16-14
Not really...

by **laverfan** Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:40 pm

Please stick to Tennis. Accusations of multiple IDs do not benefit anyone.

by amritia3ee Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:42 pm

laverfan wrote:Please stick to Tennis. Accusations of multiple IDs do not benefit anyone.

You haven't replied to my latest PM chin

by stratocumulus Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:42 pm

amritia3ee wrote:
stratocumulus wrote:
Amrita, you are not the only one who can have schizophrenic tendencies

stratocumulus wrote:
We will see the result when once for a change nadal will play tennis.
What else does he play/ Squash
Definitely not tennis as tennis will require little variation rather than standing on bashline and bashing the ball unrelentlessely. A friend of mine showed a link from youtube of nadal's amazing shots and it just turned out to be a compliation of baseline shots

stratocumulus wrote:
Although I wouldn't hide the fact that how happy I am on seeing nadal's current state.
Don't forget its 0-7 now. It is worse than fed-al rivalary
18-9
16-14

To correct, last 7 finals, it is seven losses. Well Nadal is doing his best to be remembered as the greatest no. 2 player of all time. My wishes are with him.
Not really...

by amritia3ee Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:44 pm

Still seething Sad

by bogbrush Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:44 pm

Fed never had a losing streak like this.

10/12 over three years, on every surface, and one win only because his contact lens fell out.

Hopeless really.

by stratocumulus Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:44 pm

amritia3ee wrote:
laverfan wrote:Please stick to Tennis. Accusations of multiple IDs do not benefit anyone.
You haven't replied to my latest PM

Laverfan, I had no choice, If I had put wow 5 then it would have been an instant ban and now amrita has brought the secret into open. Anyways I wont be sticking here for long. I saw few interesting debates so i thought of joining in and was missing old friends BB and Tenez, NITB. Hug

by amritia3ee Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:46 pm

No no stay here wow, this banter is fun Smile

by **laverfan** Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:46 pm

amritia3ee wrote:
laverfan wrote:Please stick to Tennis. Accusations of multiple IDs do not benefit anyone.
You haven't replied to my latest PM

Do I have to? Laugh

by amritia3ee Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:47 pm

bogbrush wrote:

Hopeless really.

6-1 6-3 6-0
Still seething Sad

by stratocumulus Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:49 pm

amritia3ee wrote:No no stay here wow, this banter is fun

SHhhh, there are few admins who might be looking out for that moniker. Run

by bogbrush Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:52 pm

Banter?

You're the clown who spent a day trying to insist that playing doubles is proof of fitness for singles. It was at this point that the penny dropped with me that you've never played the game.

by amritia3ee Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:56 pm

I never said that.
I said Federer was looking fine in the Olympics doubles as well as the singles and told you to stop making excuses.
Still seething after the Blake 08 defeat I see Sad

by Simple_Analyst Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:09 am

Boggo i got an even more laughable one which dates back to 4 years now. Last 14 Federer Nadal meetings, 3-11. Across all surfaces. Did i hear Federer hasn't been dominated like that before? Laugh

by stratocumulus Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:10 am

Simple_Analyst wrote:Boggo i got an even more laughable one which dates back to 4 years now. Last 14 Federer Nadal meetings, 3-11. Across all surfaces. Did i hear Federer hasn't been dominated like that before?

One year has resulted in 0-7, I wonder how it will pan out after 4 years.

by amritia3ee Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:13 am

Let's see. Let's see.
I feel Nadal is getting closer to Djokovic. Let's see what happens.

by **laverfan** Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:13 am

Two potential GOATs and one in the making. Crying or Very sad

by amritia3ee Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:13 am

by stratocumulus Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:18 am

Realistically it will be like climbing a mountain for Nadal to get out of this lack of confidence. Not to forget that he was leading 4-2 in that final set and it was 30-15 when he put that backhand out. Nadal had the chance to finish Djoko off but he could not do it. It reminded me of Federer's drop volley in the FO final. I think and it is my view only that Rafa will struggle to wi against Djoko even when he will be winning. But we can only wait for other results to come.

Rafa has not performed great outside slams in recent months. I mentioned Dodig because even he has defeated Rafa in recent months. Murray marooned rafa somehwere in south east (shanghai or tokyo).

To be optinmist you can say it was closer but you have also to take into consideration that Djoko was looking half dead in that 5th set.

by Simple_Analyst Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:24 am

Must be frustrating for Federer fans. They can use any player against Nadal but can never use the player they would like the most, Federer. Why? 6-1,6-3,6-0 settles things quick Laugh

by amritia3ee Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:25 am

No SA Fed nearly won a 5th game we have to remember that.

by stratocumulus Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:32 am

Simple_Analyst wrote:Must be frustrating for Federer fans. They can use any player against Nadal but can never use the player they would like the most, Federer. Why? 6-1,6-3,6-0 settles things quick

Not at all because tennis is because of Federer. Tennis fans are federer fans. Nadal does have winning record over federer but you see the result of that. Tennis is dying. What used to be a real beautiful game is a mere bashline duel now. Same point is played over and over again. Even at AO although Nadal beat fed in semi but tennis lost as Nadal did nothing but kept chasing those dead balls and sending them back. There is no surprise that why any forum is full of federer fans and only handful of anti tennis fans. V2 has to SA and Amrita and it wont be a surrpsie if they both turn out to be the same person. censored

So even Federer lost, his tennis is winner and his legacy will always remain. Post the links for Fed's best shots and Nadal's best shots and then let everyone see the difference.

by amritia3ee Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:34 am

stratocumulus wrote:
Not at all because tennis is because of Federer. Tennis fans are federer fans. Nadal does have winning record over federer but you see the result of that. Tennis is dying. What used to be a real beautiful game is a mere bashline duel now. Same point is played over and over again. Even at AO although Nadal beat fed in semi but tennis lost as Nadal did nothing but kept chasing those dead balls and sending them back. There is no surprise that why any forum is full of federer fans and only handful of anti tennis fans. V2 has to SA and Amrita and it wont be a surrpsie if they both turn out to be the same person.

So even Federer lost, his tennis is winner and his legacy will always remain. Post the links for Fed's best shots and Nadal's best shots and then let everyone see the difference.

Firstly unlike SA, I believe Federer is a great player.
Secondly Laugh

still seething from the AO semi LOL

by amritia3ee Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:36 am

There are now many more Nadal fans on v2. (after many of them were chased out in July).

by amritia3ee Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:38 am

stratocumulus wrote:

Not at all because tennis is because of Federer. Tennis fans are federer fans.

...
That's just a frankly insulting comment.

by stratocumulus Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:39 am

amritia3ee wrote:
stratocumulus wrote:
Not at all because tennis is because of Federer. Tennis fans are federer fans. Nadal does have winning record over federer but you see the result of that. Tennis is dying. What used to be a real beautiful game is a mere bashline duel now. Same point is played over and over again. Even at AO although Nadal beat fed in semi but tennis lost as Nadal did nothing but kept chasing those dead balls and sending them back. There is no surprise that why any forum is full of federer fans and only handful of anti tennis fans. V2 has to SA and Amrita and it wont be a surrpsie if they both turn out to be the same person.

So even Federer lost, his tennis is winner and his legacy will always remain. Post the links for Fed's best shots and Nadal's best shots and then let everyone see the difference.
Firstly unlike SA, I believe Federer is a great player.
Secondly still seething from the AO semi LOL

Not really, Djoko saved the tennis from extinction so that made me really happy and every time I see 0-7, it gives me immense satisfaction. Fed is now 30 and not expected to win a slam anyway. He has amassed unprecedented 16 slams and the last player to beat Djoker in a slam which apparently nadal has failed to do on any surface in past 7 meetings between them.
Fedrer played scinitllating tennis even in that defeat so I am really proud of him. You have to play negative to beat a negative player which Djoko does it very good or how do you explain half dead djoker's victory over a fit Nadal?

Fed could never play the negative tennis hence his losses on dead surfaces like AO. What is nadal's record against in the tour finals or for that matter on faster wimby courts?

I only support Djoker because he is doing a great service to the game of tennis. I will support Dodig as well because he also did his bit in saving tennis in his last match against Nadal.

by amritia3ee Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:40 am

stratocumulus wrote:
There is no surprise that why any forum is full of federer fans and only handful of anti tennis fans.

So all non Fed fans are anti-tennis.
Are you deluded or what?

by amritia3ee Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:41 am

stratocumulus wrote:

Not really, Djoko saved the tennis from extinction.

:facepalm:

by stratocumulus Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:42 am

amritia3ee wrote:
stratocumulus wrote:
There is no surprise that why any forum is full of federer fans and only handful of anti tennis fans.
So all non Fed fans are anti-tennis.
Are you deluded or what?

Okay, all Nadal fans are anti tennis. Very Happy

No not really but I do think that game has changed a lot and if you watch lot of matches these days then most of the rallies start on baseline and ends on baseline. If you ask me to pick a match from AO then I like LLodra vs Murray or Tomic vs dolg.

by stratocumulus Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:45 am

amritia3ee wrote:
stratocumulus wrote:

Not really, Djoko saved the tennis from extinction.
Are you a clown?

Always remember a rule of debating that refrain from personal insults. You will never see Tenez or BB doing that. You can always put your arguments in less confrontational way.

by amritia3ee Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:49 am

stratocumulus wrote: You will never see Tenez or BB doing that. You can always put your arguments in less confrontational way.

Are you taking the p*ss, seriously.
When did you last use this forum. You clearly weren't here in December.

by amritia3ee Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:52 am

And no wow, you accused everyone on 606v2 who is not a Federer fan of being 'anti tennis' and said that all 'tennis fans are Federer fans.'
I responded by asking you (not directly stating) you whether you were a clown.

You then replied by saying I should follow the path of people who don't insult others and then gave the names of 2 people that have insulted and abused me the most since I have joined 606v2 and said I should follow their path.
You don't make sense to me wow.

by stratocumulus Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:58 am

amritia3ee wrote:And no wow, you accused everyone on 606v2 who is not a Federer fan of being 'anti tennis' and said that all 'tennis fans are Federer fans.'
I responded by asking you (not directly stating) you whether you were a clown.

You then replied by saying I should follow the path of people who don't insult others and then gave the names of 2 people that have insulted and abused me the most since I have joined 606v2 and said I should follow their path.
You don't make sense to me wow.

well I will leave it up to you. But posing a question and saying is the same thing. At the same time you have to see whether I have said smae kind of things to you. Had you met me in a person you would have never said those kind of things to me so why sitting behind a computer should make it any different. I do not want to take these things seriously as it hardly affects me and the choice is yours.

by amritia3ee Thu 02 Feb 2012, 1:03 am

lol stop trying to take the moral highground here. You accused of all posters on 606v2 who aren't Fed fans of being anti-tennis and said that all true tennis fans are Fed fans. I jokingly asked you whether you were being serious (i.e. are you being a clown) and you are trying to take the moral highground.

by amritia3ee Thu 02 Feb 2012, 1:13 am

And by clown I didn't want to say that it was your actual profession, it was metaphorical.
For example:

Anonymous NADAL fan: Nadal is God!
Wow: No he's not...
Anonymous NADAL fan: Nadal created the universe!!
Wow: Are you a clown?
Anonymous NADAL fan: Yes, yes I am.

See 'clown' is not literal, in a tennis forum it's used when someone is 'clowning' around or taking the p*ss. I hope you do realise I didn't accuse you of being a real life clown. I don't know your profession, nor will I try to guess.

by LuvSports! Thu 02 Feb 2012, 1:29 am

haha this thread is a boxing

between amritia3ee and strato.

in the 4th round, the judges cards are even this is too close to call!

by amritia3ee Thu 02 Feb 2012, 1:35 am

It's hardly a boxing match. Strato just accused everyone on this forum (including you Luvsports) who is not a Federer fan of being anti-tennis and not a true tennis fan. I responded by asking whether he was clowning around/being a clown (taking the p*ss).
It's hardly a fight he's making ridiculous statements and I'm struggling to come to terms with the absurdity of it.
Who is he to decide whether or not everyone on this forum who is not a Fed fan is a real tennis fan???

by Josiah Maiestas Thu 02 Feb 2012, 2:03 am

SA

6-3 6-0 Laugh

6-2 6-2 6-2 Laugh

SA = "mediter" a pure fantasizer

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