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Post by maestegmafia Mon 06 Feb 2012, 7:50 am

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Wales Vs Scotland

Date: Sunday, February 12
Kick-off: 15:00
Venue: Millennium Stadium

Coverage: Live on BBC One Wales, BBC Radio Wales & online, S4C and Radio Cymru, plus live text and score updates on the BBC Sport website

Date: Sunday, February 12
Venue: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
Kick-off: 15:00 (15:00 GMT)
Expected weather: Cloudy with a few showers likely. High of 5°C, low of 3°C
Referee: Romain Poite (France)
Assistant referees: Peter Fitzgibbon (Ireland), Simon McDowell (Ireland)
TMO: Giulio De Santis (Italy)



Scotland will encounter a Wales side oozing confidence when round two of the Six Nations concludes at the Millennium Stadium on Sunday.

The opening round of the Championship was a weekend of contrasting fortunes for the two sides.
Wales underlined their status as potential Six Nations champions with a rousing 23-21 victory over Ireland in Dublin. It was a wonderful advert for Six Nations rugby with two teams going at it hammer and tongs for a game won in the last 20 seconds.
That win came less than 24 hours after Scotland had started their challenge with a 13-6 loss to England at Murrayfield. The Scots created enough chances to have beaten their visitors last week, however simple errors coupled with a lack of tries led to another disappointing defeat for Andy Robinson's men, who have now lost three on the trot.
Just once in 13 attempts have Scotland won on the opening weekend of the tournament since Italy joined the Five Nations in 2000.
Scotland must now attempt to bounce back and beat the Welsh in their own back yard - something they have failed to achieve in a decade.
They came mighty close though in their last Cardiff contest after leading by ten points with seven minutes remaining, only for the now retired Shane Williams to score a last-gasp try to secure a dramatic 31-24 come-from-behind victory.
Winning away from home has been a wee bit of a problem for the Scots in the Six Nations, where they have won just once on the road since 2006 (23-20 against Ireland at Croke Park in 2010).
But despite Scotland's poor showing last weekend and dismal away record, Wales will do well not to underestimate Sunday's visitors who are expected to come out all guns blazing after asking for the Millennium Stadium roof to be closed.
With wet weather being forecast, Scotland - notwithstanding the apparent lack of abilities to score tries (at least in the past four games) - have backed themselves to take on Wales at their own expansive game.
"We cannot afford to underestimate Scotland, the amount of possession and territory they had against England last weekend meant that they should have won the game and they will come to the Millennium Stadium buoyed by that knowledge," said Wales coach Warren Gatland.
Wales have won the opening two games of a Six Nations campaign on just two previous occasions - in 2005 and 2008 - and each time they went on to win the title and Grand Slam. Three of the World Cup semi-finalists' remaining four games are in Cardiff, starting on Sunday when try-shy Scotland arrive at the Millennium Stadium.
But following Wales' heroics in Dublin, the build-up to Sunday's Test has been blighted by the suspension of Bradley Davies, who will miss the rest of this season's tournament after collecting a seven-week ban for a reckless tip-tackle on Ireland replacement Donnacha Ryan last weekend.
Davies is the second Wales player suspended for that offence this season following Sam Warburton's dismissal and three-week punishment for an incident in the World Cup semi-final against France last October.
Davies now joins his fellow World Cup locks Luke Charteris and Alun-Wyn Jones on the international sidelines. But in a triple boost for Gatland, flanker Dan Lydiate has recovered from an ankle injury to reclaim the number six shirt, prop Gethin Jenkins has recovered from knee trouble to start and skipper Warburton also features after being in doubt with a leg injury.
However, Warburton has been wrapped in cotton wool this whole week and took a very limited part in training while staying clear of any contact work. Whether he actually leads the team out hangs in the balance and probably won't be known until the morning of the match.
In a game where the back-row battle will be absolutely crucial, everyone in the Welsh camp - and in Wales as a whole - will be keeping their fingers crossed that the inspirational skipper can defy the injury odds and help guide his team to back-to-back wins.
Wales are favourites, but nobody should have any illusions how tough this match will be...
Ones to watch:

For Wales: Former Wales captain Ryan Jones will, as expected, fill the second-row void against Scotland caused by Bradley Davies' seven-week suspension. Jones was exceptional at blindside flanker against Ireland in Dublin and his versatility is proving of immeasurable value to Gatland.
For Scotland: With Dan Parks calling it quits from Test rugby this week, Greig Laidlaw inherits the number 10 jersey for Scotland. The Edinburgh skipper won the first two of his three caps as a replacement scrum-half, before coming on at fly-half for Parks in the Calcutta Cup defeat to England. Yet an impressive display during the small amount of time he was on the pitch has been rewarded with his first Test start.
Head to head: Toby Faletau v David Denton. Scotland's Zimbabwean-born number eight Denton was deservedly named man-of-the-match following his Herculean ball-carrying against England last Saturday, and much of the same will be required against the tough as nails Faletau, who will always be found where the battle is at its most ferocious.

Recent results:
2011: Wales won 24-6, Edinburgh
2010: Wales won 31-24, Cardiff
2009: Wales won 26-13, Edinburgh
2008: Wales won 30-15, Cardiff
2007: Scotland won 21-9, Edinburgh
2006: Wales won 28-18, Cardiff
2005: Wales won 46-22, Edinburgh
2004: Wales won 23-10, Cardiff
2003: Wales won 23-9, Cardiff
2003: Scotland won 30-22, Edinburgh
Prediction: Neither history or form is with Scotland heading into this match, and while we're sure they'll give it a good crack - we just can't see Wales letting this one slip. Wales to win by nine points!
Rugby Union betting odds

The teams:

Wales: 15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 Alex Cuthbert, 13 Jonathan Davies, 12 Jamie Roberts, 11 George North, 10 Rhys Priestland, 9 Mike Phillips, 8 Toby Faletau, 7 Sam Warburton (c), 6 Dan Lydiate, 5 Ian Evans, 4 Ryan Jones, 3 Adam Jones, 2 Huw Bennett, 1 Gethin Jenkins.

Replacements: 16 Ken Owens, 17 Paul James, 18 Lou Reed, 19 Andy Powell, 20 Lloyd Williams, 21 James Hook, 22 Scott Williams.

Scotland: 15 Rory Lamont, 14 Lee Jones, 13 Nick De Luca, 12 Sean Lamont, 11 Max Evans, 10 Greig Laidlaw, 9 Chris Cusiter, 8 David Denton, 7 Ross Rennie, 6 Alasdair Strokosch, 5 Jim Hamilton, 4 Richie Gray, 3 Geoff Cross, 2 Ross Ford (c), 1 Allan Jacobsen.

Replacements: 16 Scott Lawson, 17 Ed Kalman, 18 Alastair Kellock, 19 John Barclay, 20 Mike Blair, 21 Duncan Weir, 22 Stuart Hogg.


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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:07 pm

That start showed the difference between the two. Wales got the chance and took it. Scotland just seem to have a mental block in the red zone.


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Post by Morgannwg Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:07 pm

De Luca takes out JD off the ball. But I suppose according to a few of you he's just milked it.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:07 pm

That will hurt Scotland, absolutely stupid and a clear yellow
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:07 pm

no need for it to happen, loads of scots back!!

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Post by Biltong Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:07 pm

Five minutes f insanity and scotland has just given themselves a huge chase, Wales will have their tails up now.
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Post by Shifty Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:08 pm

Wales are building now, 1 more try while their down to 14 and we should kill this game off.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:08 pm

Jiffy "Scotland will have to score try's to win this game"

Really?
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Post by Morgannwg Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:09 pm

Rennie clearly in the side.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:10 pm

Why do that Wales?
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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:10 pm

Who's refereeing this game, Poite or Ford?
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Post by Biltong Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:10 pm

I love the commentator saying wales have taken 10 point sin six minutes. True cuthbert broke the tackle of a very poor tackle by Laidlaw, but it was scottish mistakes that gave those 10 points away.

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Post by pedrojones Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:11 pm

Should have kicked it away. Wales getting cocky cuz of man advantage.

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Post by Morgannwg Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:11 pm

Ford is crying wolf non-stop.
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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:12 pm

Blair on, right call.
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Post by Shifty Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:12 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Who's refereeing this game, Poite or Ford?
I was wondering that too! laughing
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Post by Morgannwg Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:12 pm

biltongbek wrote:I love the commentator saying wales have taken 10 point sin six minutes. True cuthbert broke the tackle of a very poor tackle by Laidlaw, but it was scottish mistakes that gave those 10 points away.


So in other words, Wales have taken 10 points?
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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:13 pm

Scotland offside
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Post by Biltong Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:13 pm

This welsh backline is running the scottish defence ragged.
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Post by Biltong Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:14 pm

Easy try.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:14 pm

It was coming but well played Wales clap
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Post by pedrojones Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:14 pm

Cuffbutt MOTM

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Post by Shifty Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:14 pm

Woah!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yahoo

the difference between the teams is Wales build phases and score, Scotland build phases and mess it up.
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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:14 pm

Yes Halfpenny! Needed those Fantasy points...
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Post by Biltong Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:14 pm

Morgannwg wrote:
biltongbek wrote:I love the commentator saying wales have taken 10 point sin six minutes. True cuthbert broke the tackle of a very poor tackle by Laidlaw, but it was scottish mistakes that gave those 10 points away.


So in other words, Wales have taken 10 points?

Problem?
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Post by Morgannwg Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:14 pm

Try number two for Wales. The English, Irish and Boer must be upset now.
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Post by R!skysports Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:15 pm

Welsh holdong on in tackle 3 time
s there. ref a discrace

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Post by TycroesOsprey Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:15 pm

Now we have to be clinical and not do anything dumb and the game is ours.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:15 pm

Morgannwg wrote:Try number two for Wales. The English, Irish and Boer must be upset now.

Sorry, have i been negative against Wales?
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:16 pm

Scotland have totally lost it here, this flatters Wales and doesn't reflect the game.

Shows the danger of them though.

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Post by Biltong Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:16 pm

Morgannwg wrote:Try number two for Wales. The English, Irish and Boer must be upset now.
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Post by pedrojones Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:16 pm

You think that's all wales have? Fitness kicks in in the final 20.

Tryfest

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Post by R!skysports Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:16 pm

Forward

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Post by Shifty Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:16 pm

yup well deserved...
Cmon Wales kill it off!!!! Yahoo
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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:16 pm

I think I can honestly say if I were offered 1 Welsh back 3 player I would take Halfpenny. Scotland are basically screwed after that yellow
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Post by dublin_dave Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:16 pm

to be fair to scots at least they made wales defend and make tackles the first half. with more fire power they would have been ahead by at least 7.

i still cannot fathom why we kicked so much ball against wales last week and not only that kicked aimlessly so we couldnt at least pressure their lineout. shocking failure of tactics

fair play to wales well on top now

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Post by nobbled Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:16 pm

Morgannwg wrote:Try number two for Wales. The English, Irish and Boer must be upset now.
Would imagine the Scots aren't delighted Rolling Eyes
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Post by eirebilly Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:17 pm

Thats really all down to massive pressure from Wales. Great stuff, go for the try Very Happy
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Post by R!skysports Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:17 pm

Ref ruiningbthis.game.again.

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Post by Morgannwg Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:17 pm

biltongbek wrote:
Morgannwg wrote:
biltongbek wrote:I love the commentator saying wales have taken 10 point sin six minutes. True cuthbert broke the tackle of a very poor tackle by Laidlaw, but it was scottish mistakes that gave those 10 points away.


So in other words, Wales have taken 10 points?

Problem?

Yes, you seem to have a problem with Wales. Get over yourself.

Scotland down to 13, ouch. I feel for them now, they've played well.
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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:18 pm

Morgannwg wrote:
biltongbek wrote:
Morgannwg wrote:
biltongbek wrote:I love the commentator saying wales have taken 10 point sin six minutes. True cuthbert broke the tackle of a very poor tackle by Laidlaw, but it was scottish mistakes that gave those 10 points away.


So in other words, Wales have taken 10 points?

Problem?

Yes, you seem to have a problem with Wales. Get over yourself.

Scotland down to 13, ouch. I feel for them now, they've played well.

I think you are being over sensitive mate
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:19 pm

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Post by Biltong Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:19 pm

No mate I don't have a problem with wales, you seem to have a problem with anyone that is supporting the underdog.

I suppose when your team is not playing you support the favourite?
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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:19 pm

Yes!
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Post by R!skysports Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:19 pm

So Wales.allowed.to come.across and off side.and holdong on. nothing

can Wales.not beat 15 men

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Post by eirebilly Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:19 pm

Brilliant, simply brilliant from Wales Very Happy
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Post by whocares Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:19 pm

Morgannwg wrote:Try number two for Wales. The English, Irish and Boer must be upset now.
Chill...otherwise the french will join the bandwagon too Wink
There is nothing wrong in wanting the underdog to do well, to give a challenge to the mighty welsh to start with and better entertainment. Hug

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Post by pedrojones Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:19 pm

Wales putting you all to shame.

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Post by GG Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:20 pm

Loving the xenophobic attitude of some of my fellow country men on this thread Rolling Eyes

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:20 pm

Only wish he was my kicker
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Post by Shifty Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:20 pm

Oooooooooooooooh the arrogant Welsh, not showing Scotland any respect....

a lock on the openside, a number 8 at lock, a hooker that cant throw straight, 2 opensides injured, 2 locks injured, 1 susprended, King North off, down to our third choice captain....

And......

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Yahoo

25-6!!!!
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