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Post by maestegmafia Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:50 pm

First topic message reminder :

Wales Vs Scotland

Date: Sunday, February 12
Kick-off: 15:00
Venue: Millennium Stadium

Coverage: Live on BBC One Wales, BBC Radio Wales & online, S4C and Radio Cymru, plus live text and score updates on the BBC Sport website

Date: Sunday, February 12
Venue: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
Kick-off: 15:00 (15:00 GMT)
Expected weather: Cloudy with a few showers likely. High of 5°C, low of 3°C
Referee: Romain Poite (France)
Assistant referees: Peter Fitzgibbon (Ireland), Simon McDowell (Ireland)
TMO: Giulio De Santis (Italy)



Scotland will encounter a Wales side oozing confidence when round two of the Six Nations concludes at the Millennium Stadium on Sunday.

The opening round of the Championship was a weekend of contrasting fortunes for the two sides.
Wales underlined their status as potential Six Nations champions with a rousing 23-21 victory over Ireland in Dublin. It was a wonderful advert for Six Nations rugby with two teams going at it hammer and tongs for a game won in the last 20 seconds.
That win came less than 24 hours after Scotland had started their challenge with a 13-6 loss to England at Murrayfield. The Scots created enough chances to have beaten their visitors last week, however simple errors coupled with a lack of tries led to another disappointing defeat for Andy Robinson's men, who have now lost three on the trot.
Just once in 13 attempts have Scotland won on the opening weekend of the tournament since Italy joined the Five Nations in 2000.
Scotland must now attempt to bounce back and beat the Welsh in their own back yard - something they have failed to achieve in a decade.
They came mighty close though in their last Cardiff contest after leading by ten points with seven minutes remaining, only for the now retired Shane Williams to score a last-gasp try to secure a dramatic 31-24 come-from-behind victory.
Winning away from home has been a wee bit of a problem for the Scots in the Six Nations, where they have won just once on the road since 2006 (23-20 against Ireland at Croke Park in 2010).
But despite Scotland's poor showing last weekend and dismal away record, Wales will do well not to underestimate Sunday's visitors who are expected to come out all guns blazing after asking for the Millennium Stadium roof to be closed.
With wet weather being forecast, Scotland - notwithstanding the apparent lack of abilities to score tries (at least in the past four games) - have backed themselves to take on Wales at their own expansive game.
"We cannot afford to underestimate Scotland, the amount of possession and territory they had against England last weekend meant that they should have won the game and they will come to the Millennium Stadium buoyed by that knowledge," said Wales coach Warren Gatland.
Wales have won the opening two games of a Six Nations campaign on just two previous occasions - in 2005 and 2008 - and each time they went on to win the title and Grand Slam. Three of the World Cup semi-finalists' remaining four games are in Cardiff, starting on Sunday when try-shy Scotland arrive at the Millennium Stadium.
But following Wales' heroics in Dublin, the build-up to Sunday's Test has been blighted by the suspension of Bradley Davies, who will miss the rest of this season's tournament after collecting a seven-week ban for a reckless tip-tackle on Ireland replacement Donnacha Ryan last weekend.
Davies is the second Wales player suspended for that offence this season following Sam Warburton's dismissal and three-week punishment for an incident in the World Cup semi-final against France last October.
Davies now joins his fellow World Cup locks Luke Charteris and Alun-Wyn Jones on the international sidelines. But in a triple boost for Gatland, flanker Dan Lydiate has recovered from an ankle injury to reclaim the number six shirt, prop Gethin Jenkins has recovered from knee trouble to start and skipper Warburton also features after being in doubt with a leg injury.
However, Warburton has been wrapped in cotton wool this whole week and took a very limited part in training while staying clear of any contact work. Whether he actually leads the team out hangs in the balance and probably won't be known until the morning of the match.
In a game where the back-row battle will be absolutely crucial, everyone in the Welsh camp - and in Wales as a whole - will be keeping their fingers crossed that the inspirational skipper can defy the injury odds and help guide his team to back-to-back wins.
Wales are favourites, but nobody should have any illusions how tough this match will be...
Ones to watch:

For Wales: Former Wales captain Ryan Jones will, as expected, fill the second-row void against Scotland caused by Bradley Davies' seven-week suspension. Jones was exceptional at blindside flanker against Ireland in Dublin and his versatility is proving of immeasurable value to Gatland.
For Scotland: With Dan Parks calling it quits from Test rugby this week, Greig Laidlaw inherits the number 10 jersey for Scotland. The Edinburgh skipper won the first two of his three caps as a replacement scrum-half, before coming on at fly-half for Parks in the Calcutta Cup defeat to England. Yet an impressive display during the small amount of time he was on the pitch has been rewarded with his first Test start.
Head to head: Toby Faletau v David Denton. Scotland's Zimbabwean-born number eight Denton was deservedly named man-of-the-match following his Herculean ball-carrying against England last Saturday, and much of the same will be required against the tough as nails Faletau, who will always be found where the battle is at its most ferocious.

Recent results:
2011: Wales won 24-6, Edinburgh
2010: Wales won 31-24, Cardiff
2009: Wales won 26-13, Edinburgh
2008: Wales won 30-15, Cardiff
2007: Scotland won 21-9, Edinburgh
2006: Wales won 28-18, Cardiff
2005: Wales won 46-22, Edinburgh
2004: Wales won 23-10, Cardiff
2003: Wales won 23-9, Cardiff
2003: Scotland won 30-22, Edinburgh
Prediction: Neither history or form is with Scotland heading into this match, and while we're sure they'll give it a good crack - we just can't see Wales letting this one slip. Wales to win by nine points!
Rugby Union betting odds

The teams:

Wales: 15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 Alex Cuthbert, 13 Jonathan Davies, 12 Jamie Roberts, 11 George North, 10 Rhys Priestland, 9 Mike Phillips, 8 Toby Faletau, 7 Sam Warburton (c), 6 Dan Lydiate, 5 Ian Evans, 4 Ryan Jones, 3 Adam Jones, 2 Huw Bennett, 1 Gethin Jenkins.

Replacements: 16 Ken Owens, 17 Paul James, 18 Lou Reed, 19 Andy Powell, 20 Lloyd Williams, 21 James Hook, 22 Scott Williams.

Scotland: 15 Rory Lamont, 14 Lee Jones, 13 Nick De Luca, 12 Sean Lamont, 11 Max Evans, 10 Greig Laidlaw, 9 Chris Cusiter, 8 David Denton, 7 Ross Rennie, 6 Alasdair Strokosch, 5 Jim Hamilton, 4 Richie Gray, 3 Geoff Cross, 2 Ross Ford (c), 1 Allan Jacobsen.

Replacements: 16 Scott Lawson, 17 Ed Kalman, 18 Alastair Kellock, 19 John Barclay, 20 Mike Blair, 21 Duncan Weir, 22 Stuart Hogg.


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Post by trebellbobaggins Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:20 am

Spanking now. You can't lose players like this against a team getting it tail up.

Still, I hope some respect is shown for the match Scotland gave them until the yellow cards.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:21 am

If Scotland win this, it is the comeback of all comebacks
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Post by eirebilly Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:21 am

Can we please keep this thread in a good spirit?

Its a great game, enjoy.
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Post by Morgannwg Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:22 am

Just constant negative comments and insulting Wales' good performance from all of you. Some of you disgust me as much as Poite's performance. Just to let you know, IF Wales win the tournament I will be back to rub your noses in it.

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Post by R!skysports Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:22 am

Will the ref send off a Welsh player. they Ben doing that all game. waste of time these games

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:23 am

Scotland's forwards must HATE their backs
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Post by eirebilly Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:23 am

Morgannwg wrote:Just constant negative comments and insulting Wales' good performance from all of you. Some of you disgust me as much as Poite's performance. Just to let you know, IF Wales win the tournament I will be back to rub your noses in it.

Smile

All?
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Post by Biltong Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:23 am

Morgannwg wrote:Just constant negative comments and insulting Wales' good performance from all of you. Some of you disgust me as much as Poite's performance. Just to let you know, IF Wales win the tournament I will be back to rub your noses in it.

Smile

Morgan nobody has insulted wales. They have commented on the way they play hands in the ruck.

If you go back every try has been complimented, chill.
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Post by R!skysports Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:23 am

Finally called their.holding on

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:24 am

Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Post by eirebilly Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:24 am

You could'nt read about it........... Knock on
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Post by eirebilly Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:25 am

Thats a try..... Poor Scotland
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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:25 am

How do you eff up that chance? If that's a knock on Scotland can never score
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Post by Biltong Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:25 am

Well there's the try scotland should have scored. Another classic Poite moment. Doh
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Post by trebellbobaggins Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:25 am

God even that chance was just blown. They just cannot score bless em.

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Post by dublin_dave Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:25 am

i actually think the scots are making progress. silly error by cusiter then harsh sin binning changed the game

ah ref. have a day off. robbed. andy robinson will have an aneurysm

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:25 am

Oo, harsh call actually
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Post by Guest Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:25 am

Unlucky Hogg, that wasnt a knock on

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Post by nobbled Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:25 am

Not a knock on but can understand the call
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Post by Morgannwg Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:25 am

Riskysports wrote:So Wales.allowed.to come.across and off side.and holdong on. nothing

can Wales.not beat 15 men

14 man Wales beat 15 men in Dublin last week. The last time England came to Cardiff, 14 Welshmen beat another 15 men. Haha twirp.

Another bad call, a well worked try from the Scots. Really unlucky.
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Post by GG Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:25 am

Never a knock on, we were lucky there

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Post by miteyironpaw Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:26 am

Poite dubiously sin bins two Scots to help Wales and when Scotland score anyway he disallows a legitimate try?

Tell me again how Wales are not being helped by the referee here?
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Post by R!skysports Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:26 am

Wrong. discrace. Scotland should walk off. no poont.playing when ref against.u

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:26 am

Poite is Poopie
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Post by eirebilly Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:26 am

Poite has been poor today. There was no way Wales were back 10 there either.
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Post by Biltong Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:27 am

miteyironpaw wrote:Poite dubiously sin bins two Scots to help Wales and when Scotland score anyway he disallows a legitimate try?

Tell me again how Wales are not being helped by the referee here?
To be fair, wales' backline was always going to win this.
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Post by Shifty Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:27 am

eirebilly wrote:Can we please keep this thread in a good spirit?

Its a great game, enjoy.

I agree we should but it's hard for the Welsh because any time we show any confidence in our team were ganged up on by everyone else and told were arrogant, yet Scotland seem to be doing everything the Welsh posters said they would...

I do hope they come back but not win because it will give them confidence for their next game.
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Post by eirebilly Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:27 am

TRY for Scotland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Pot Hale Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:27 am

Scotland finally score a try! Well deserved.
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Post by Biltong Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:27 am

Nice going Scotland, it may be a little too late, but they can score tries. clap
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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:28 am

Better by Laidlaw. Maybe he should play 9 again?
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Post by Shifty Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:28 am

Well done Scotland, deserved.
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Post by lostinwales Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:28 am

Wales well deserving of lead etc - but how many times does the ref have to shout 'no hands' before actually getting another card out?

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Post by mystiroakey Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:28 am

well done scotland!! Smile

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:28 am

Great game
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Post by nobbled Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:28 am

Wales have had warnings and yet continue to have hands in the ruck and holding on. Must be a yellow coming.
Great try!
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Post by miteyironpaw Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:28 am

Faletau obviously offside there, right in front of the ref! The try line was the defensive line and he's got his hand over it! The ref does nothing!

Will Poite ever sin-bin a Welshman for deliberate professional fouls?
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Post by pedrojones Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:28 am

The actor Martin Short scores!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:28 am

Well played there Scotland,

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Post by Biltong Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:29 am

nobbled wrote:Wales have had warnings and yet continue to have hands in the ruck and holding on. Must be a yellow coming.
Great try!
Careful nobbled, we aren't allowed to criticise. Whistle
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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:29 am

This isn't over...
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Post by Biltong Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:30 am

This match may have been decided, but this is a very entertaining match.
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Post by dublin_dave Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:30 am

nah laidlaw done nothing wrong at 10.

far better with runners off him than a parks type player way behind gainline.

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Post by Morgannwg Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:30 am

AlynDavies wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Can we please keep this thread in a good spirit?

Its a great game, enjoy.

I agree we should but it's hard for the Welsh because any time we show any confidence in our team were ganged up on by everyone else and told were arrogant, yet Scotland seem to be doing everything the Welsh posters said they would...

I do hope they come back but not win because it will give them confidence for their next game.

Plus one.

Plus we are a lucky bunch of cheats. Our 5 in a row (well it may be 5 at the end of this game) over Scotland was all down to the refs.
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Post by Shifty Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:30 am

eirebilly wrote:Poite has been poor today. There was no way Wales were back 10 there either.

You dont go past your own try line under any circumstances anyway. We couldnt of gone 10 Sad
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Post by eirebilly Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:30 am

Scotland have asked alot of questions from Wales today. Its been a very entertaining match
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Post by gelodge Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:30 am

Morgannwg wrote:Try number two for Wales. The English, Irish and Boer must be upset now.


That's an impressive persecution mentality. Have you not noticed that most of the reasonable Welsh supporters on here are taking no offence at these supposed digs.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:31 am

Poite, this isn't NFL...
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Post by Gibson Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:31 am

Blair has really altered this game.
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Post by pedrojones Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:31 am

Hogg Williams!

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