What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
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What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
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What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
IMO it wouldn’t be the worst result in the rugby world, and here’s why.
Italy are now a very well organised team not like they used to be in their 1st few seasons in the 6 nations when they beat Scotland and Wales.
Italy in Rome is a very different animal compared to when they play away, the Italians are a very proud and passionate nation and this shows when they step onto a rugby pitch, what they lack in ability they make up for in determination.
The Italians use a different ball compared to the other home nations (Mitre) as the RWC showed some players are very particular about their balls, and with good reason.
Most of them play their rugby in France which as we all know is a tough league when compared to the likes of the Rabo.
I’m not making ready made excuses for England if we were to lose to the Italians, but we should be aware that the new/inexperianced England squad face a very tough task to put the Italians away in Rome, so don’t be surprised if we lose to them for the 1st time in our proud and distinguished history.
I hope whatever happens that we stick by this team as once a few key players are back I think we have a very solid base for the next few years.
What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
IMO it wouldn’t be the worst result in the rugby world, and here’s why.
Italy are now a very well organised team not like they used to be in their 1st few seasons in the 6 nations when they beat Scotland and Wales.
Italy in Rome is a very different animal compared to when they play away, the Italians are a very proud and passionate nation and this shows when they step onto a rugby pitch, what they lack in ability they make up for in determination.
The Italians use a different ball compared to the other home nations (Mitre) as the RWC showed some players are very particular about their balls, and with good reason.
Most of them play their rugby in France which as we all know is a tough league when compared to the likes of the Rabo.
I’m not making ready made excuses for England if we were to lose to the Italians, but we should be aware that the new/inexperianced England squad face a very tough task to put the Italians away in Rome, so don’t be surprised if we lose to them for the 1st time in our proud and distinguished history.
I hope whatever happens that we stick by this team as once a few key players are back I think we have a very solid base for the next few years.
HERSH- Posts : 4207
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
'What would happen if England lost to Italy?'
It would probably put a bit of a downer on my weekend in Rome...
It would probably put a bit of a downer on my weekend in Rome...
Bathman_in_London- Posts : 2266
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
What would happen?
Italy would just have done their 'Ireland' on England and denied them a potential GS.
Plus they'd feel very happy that they got revenge for the humiliation in London last time.
Italy would just have done their 'Ireland' on England and denied them a potential GS.
Plus they'd feel very happy that they got revenge for the humiliation in London last time.
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
SecretFly wrote:They'd feel very happy that they got revenge for the humiliation in London last time.
Good point. That defeat is going to be such a motivation for them come Saturday.
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
First of all why do you think that England will lose to Italy, we havent lost to them yet. Still their is all ways a first time.
Second What would Happen if Wales lost to Italy?
First of all why do you think that England will lose to Italy, we havent lost to them yet. Still their is all ways a first time.
Second What would Happen if Wales lost to Italy?
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
Reading these threads show how arrogant and dilusional the English supporters are....
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ISLANDER wrote:Reading these threads show how arrogant and dilusional the English supporters are....
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
ISLANDER wrote:Reading these threads show how arrogant and dilusional the English supporters are....
Looks like someone picked up a ban.
Pathetic
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
Its The Grey Ghost, i am certain of it HERSH
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
No Maestegmafia would be my guess.
HERSH- Posts : 4207
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
To answer the question, not much would happen at all. Italy were very very close last time at home against England and for me the game this year is 50 50 anyway. As usual when it's 50 50 I go with home advantage so my moneys on Italy anyway (figuratively and literally).
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
No, Grey Ghost knew how to spell.
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As long as England go down in a blaze of glory and not just the normal dull fest I won't mind.
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
Well a good proportion of the rugby world would laugh very hard indeed
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
luckless_pedestrian wrote:No, Grey Ghost knew how to spell.
Thats true... I do miss him though, he was good for the humour value
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
After this weekends performance, if you were to pick a Northern Hemisphere team to take on a Southern Hemisphere team, how many English players would be in the team?
Oh, and this is not a joke, I honestly want to know people's thought...
Oh, and this is not a joke, I honestly want to know people's thought...
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ISLANDER- Posts : 9
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Well a good proportion of the rugby world would laugh very hard indeed
As long as we don't become the second side to lose to them at home. That WOULD be embarassing
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
ISLANDER wrote:After this weekends performance, if you were to pick a Northern Hemisphere team to take on a Southern Hemisphere team, how many English players would be in the team?
Oh, and this is not a joke, I ohnestly want to know people's thought...
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
HammerofThunor wrote:ISLANDER wrote:After this weekends performance, if you were to pick a Northern Hemisphere team to take on a Southern Hemisphere team, how many English players would be in the team?
Oh, and this is not a joke, I ohnestly want to know people's thought...
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He said no joking, Thunor
SecretFly- Posts : 31800
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
ISLANDER wrote:After this weekends performance, if you were to pick a Northern Hemisphere team to take on a Southern Hemisphere team, how many English players would be in the team?
Oh, and this is not a joke, I ohnestly want to know people's thought...
Thats a very insightful post
If its played in the NH then few English would make the squad on current form this is true, but if it was played down-under then 15 English men would be my pick as we know how to beat the SH teams down there unlike our Celtic cousins.
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HERSH wrote:ISLANDER wrote:After this weekends performance, if you were to pick a Northern Hemisphere team to take on a Southern Hemisphere team, how many English players would be in the team?
Oh, and this is not a joke, I ohnestly want to know people's thought...
Thats a very insightful post
If its played in the NH then few English would make the squad on current form this is true, but if it was played down-under then 15 English men would be my pick as we know how to beat the SH teams down there unlike our Celtic cousins.
What about the French HERSH? They also know how to beat the SH guys
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I'm not. 7 French guys to strengthen the squad. That's what I'd pick
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ISLANDER wrote:After this weekends performance, if you were to pick a Northern Hemisphere team to take on a Southern Hemisphere team, how many English players would be in the team?
Oh, and this is not a joke, I honestly want to know people's thought...
XV or 22?
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
Must be GG. Who else was so skilled in the art of wumming the other wums?
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I wouldn't take the french as they're not disciplined enough.
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Knowsit17 wrote:Must be GG. Who else was so skilled in the art of wumming the other wums?
eirebilly- Posts : 24807
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
nah sounds like a bitter celt to me.
been loads of new accounts over the last few days, same sort of posts- not GG's style
been loads of new accounts over the last few days, same sort of posts- not GG's style
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
If England lose to Italy?
Nothing, because people expect it.
Nothing, because people expect it.
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HERSH wrote:ISLANDER wrote:After this weekends performance, if you were to pick a Northern Hemisphere team to take on a Southern Hemisphere team, how many English players would be in the team?
Oh, and this is not a joke, I ohnestly want to know people's thought...
Thats a very insightful post
If its played in the NH then few English would make the squad on current form this is true, but if it was played down-under then 15 English men would be my pick as we know how to beat the SH teams down there unlike our Celtic cousins.
That is very true, the like's of Wilkinson, Thompson, Back, Tindal etc. Have had great succes over the last few years beating the the SH teams and so have France. But let us not dwindle in the past. On current form, from LAST weekend's games.. I struggle to find an English player making the 15...
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HERSH wrote:
if it was played down-under then 15 English men would be my pick as we know how to beat the SH teams down there unlike our Celtic cousins.
Last team to do it was Celtic
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ISLANDER wrote:After this weekends performance, if you were to pick a Northern Hemisphere team to take on a Southern Hemisphere team, how many English players would be in the team?
Oh, and this is not a joke, I honestly want to know people's thought...
At the moment I can't think of a single English player who would get into the Wales or Ireland side let alone a combined NH team.
Foden is about as close as it gets but on present form Kearney and Halfpenny are above him and Id have to go with Kearney tbh.
Ashton may get some support but North, Bowe, Trimble and both French wingers are on better form.
I can't think of anyone else that comes close.
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Pff Australia don't count. Even we've beat them recently (and that was at home rather than next door)
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based on the last game i think we would all agree with you , however sport isnt just about the last game
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I see the black armbands earing the legend -RIP English rugby have already been ordered-apparently the Western Mail,instead of having the paper available at Paddington will now have the armbands-10 for 10p
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senghenydd1913 wrote:I see the black armbands earing the legend -RIP English rugby have already been ordered-apparently the Western Mail,instead of having the paper available at Paddington will now have the armbands-10 for 10p
its you isnt it lol-
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mystiroakey wrote:senghenydd1913 wrote:I see the black armbands earing the legend -RIP English rugby have already been ordered-apparently the Western Mail,instead of having the paper available at Paddington will now have the armbands-10 for 10p
its you isnt it lol-
damn -typo bearing not earing-although some of the saes could possibly be wearing them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yeah great joke dude- glad i witnessed it!
got any others?
got any others?
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mystiroakey wrote:based on the last game i think we would all agree with you , however sport isnt just about the last game
I agree with you, I hope England, Scotland and Italy find form, we, as spectators want to see a low error count game, unlike the Scotland and England game... England won, due to Scotland's poor clinical judgment...
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
England will beat them dont worry, they have to much up front for this old Italian team.
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mystiroakey wrote:yeah great joke dude- glad i witnessed it!
got any others?
loads BUT all about the saes so dont think you would appreciate them-there again I do know a few surrey jokes but they have been refered to the RRB so cannot comment until the the findings are published in 2020
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so you bottled it then
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AlynDavies wrote:England will beat them dont worry, they have to much up front for this old Italian team.
Ah, the old reverse-psychology trick.
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mystiroakey wrote:so you bottled it then
nnoooooooooo the matter is sub judice so cant possibly comment other than to say I expected more of surrey(twinned with Misrata)
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lol your fried. surrey as everyone knows is twined with Llanfairpwllgwyngyll
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eirebilly wrote:Its The Grey Ghost, i am certain of it HERSH
The greyghost is far better than that, another league. Islanders was a pathetic effort, dim witted even.
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mystiroakey wrote:lol your fried. surrey as everyone knows is twined with Llanfairpwllgwyngyll
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Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
In my opinion Corbisiero and Cole were as good as any props on show this weekend, and although Hartley didn't rampage around the pitch as much as I would have liked, he had a very solid game too. If I were picking a Northern Hemisphere team to go down south, an English 1, 2 and 3 wouldn't be a terrible way to start. Foden would have to be close to any side selected, and I think Barritt put in a great shift in defence (would have liked to see more of him in attack, but he was never given the ball) and would work well in a midfield with Priestland at 10 and Rougerie at 13.
There's arguments for a few English players on the back of this weekend's matches, even if as a collective we didn't get it together.
There's arguments for a few English players on the back of this weekend's matches, even if as a collective we didn't get it together.
Re: What would happen IF England lost to Italy?
In reply to the OP, you can look it up in 'Romans', from memory I think it went:
Yea mighty Alps would be rent, a great flood from Genoa to Modena, Vesuvius erupt, the cherubs of Pavrotti would sing the deeds of Roman heroes who vanquished the white hordes out of the dark frozen land of The Angles, and then waken from their dreaming in mighty tears enough to swell the Tiber to the sea.
I think that might happen.
Yea mighty Alps would be rent, a great flood from Genoa to Modena, Vesuvius erupt, the cherubs of Pavrotti would sing the deeds of Roman heroes who vanquished the white hordes out of the dark frozen land of The Angles, and then waken from their dreaming in mighty tears enough to swell the Tiber to the sea.
I think that might happen.
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