Should Richard Keys be on Boxnation???

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 Feb - 10:48

The guy resigned from SKY because of his patronising comments toward Women....

Should he really be presenting on Boxnation?????

To me it's a fair question???.......To ask>>

by **hampo17** Tue 14 Feb - 11:11

Probably not but he also walked in to a job at talksport.

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 Feb - 11:13

Yes but talksport has a lot of morons on it.....

Had Galloway on it and the wally Gaunt on it...So it likes controversial people...

They trade on being outspoken and controversial...

by Benelio Tue 14 Feb - 11:51

Forgive and forget I say. It's not like the guy did anything criminal. I don't really get behind this mentality that someone should be sacked the moment they make a daft comment, and prevented from ever working in their industry again.

The number of female presenters that make equivalent patronising comments against men is probably a lot higher. Often notice the female presenters on BBC news making male generalisations about Bill Turnbull, their co-host, and then there's 'Loose Women', that sometimes turns into something reminiscant of a cackling Hen party. These incidents don't bother me, but the inequality in how its perceived does.

by **hampo17** Tue 14 Feb - 11:55

Wasn't just the one comment though was it? There where multiple videos released where he was doing stuff that would get any normal person in to trouble in the work place and he should be no different, there's gentle banter and then theres joining in when Andy Gray asks the female co-host to put her hands down his pants and tuck him in. Plus the guys a grade A tool.

by Super D Boon Tue 14 Feb - 12:06

Whilst I agree with a poster's comment on the inequality of it all with women being allowed to get away with gender stereotyping, I nevertheless find Richard "No lips" Keys to be an odious man.

His ridiculous partnership with Andy Gray is the single most reason I chose not to renew my Sky Subscription.

I remember his stupid act with Gray where he pretends to be the dumb anchor man while guru Andy explains to him in "scientific" detail about what went on in the match. It was such a tired formula! Are we seriously meant to beleive that No Lips, who was the chairperson of Manchester City, has been involved in Sky Sports football since its inception STILL knows nothing about football!!

I don't agree with him having to bear a cross forever on the sexist incident but I think he shouldn't be on TV full stop because he's a damn awful clown of a presenter!

by Benelio Tue 14 Feb - 12:16

I don't watch football, so have no idea of his sky sports history bar the following:

The 'Smash It' comments
The lineswoman offside comments.
Him interrupting Sky's broadcast of Summerslam '92 to give 20 minutes of football updates, causing 'Crush Vs Repo Man' to not be shown on TV.

Wasn't aware of the trousers incident though.

Personally reckon he's been doing a decent job on BoxNation though. Seems like he's playing the role of the 'dumb anchor' man again, but with Bunce, and this time it's probably more genuine.

by **Fists of Fury** Tue 14 Feb - 12:19

Keys appalling boxing knowledge is my primary concern. He has been shown up to be utterly clueless when asking some simply ridiculous questions to Buncey at times on there.

by **hampo17** Tue 14 Feb - 12:22

Yeah as Fists says I don't think he's playing the role this time Smile

by Super D Boon Tue 14 Feb - 12:24

Fists of Fury wrote:Keys appalling boxing knowledge is my primary concern. He has been shown up to be utterly clueless when asking some simply ridiculous questions to Buncey at times on there.

But that's his game. Being involved in football for over 20 years he's still "clueless".

by johnson2 Tue 14 Feb - 12:36

Sky presenters arent much better, just look at the rankings they produce.

Shameful.

Wonder which mod will remove this comments. Sure you can find a rule it has broken...

by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 14 Feb - 12:51

johnson2 wrote:
Wonder which mod will remove this comments. Sure you can find a rule it has broken...

You're a strange little man, Jack. Are you attempting to take Jonesy title as angriest poster?

As for the thread, it was absolutely right that he got the push/walked from Sky. Football has insulated itself from the 'real' world for for too long already and his behaviour shouldn't be tolerated in any way shape or form. It was a tiny, tiny step towards football trying to regain some kind of moral compass.

He shouldn't be banned from TV forever though, he is just a wally, not some kind of criminal, or worse, a politician.

As for his stint on Boxnation, I can't really comment, as strangely enough, I haven't subscribed.

by johnson2 Tue 14 Feb - 12:54

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
johnson2 wrote:
Wonder which mod will remove this comments. Sure you can find a rule it has broken...

You're a strange little man, Jack. Are you attempting to take Jonesy title as angriest poster?

Who you calling little.

by TopHat24/7 Tue 14 Feb - 13:09

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
johnson2 wrote:
Wonder which mod will remove this comments. Sure you can find a rule it has broken...

You're a strange little man, Jack. Are you attempting to take Jonesy title as angriest poster?

As for the thread, it was absolutely right that he got the push/walked from Sky. Football has insulated itself from the 'real' world for for too long already and his behaviour shouldn't be tolerated in any way shape or form. It was a tiny, tiny step towards football trying to regain some kind of moral compass.

He shouldn't be banned from TV forever though, he is just a wally, not some kind of criminal, or worse, a politician.

As for his stint on Boxnation, I can't really comment, as strangely enough, I haven't subscribed.

Think I've got to disagree with you there Tino. Apart from the 'tuck me in' comments which were by Gray, Keys' comments in many work environments would've gone unpunished and in more modern (usually office) workplaces would have earned him a reprimand (probably formal written warning) but not constructive dismissal. The fact that what was said by the pair was no worse than what's said on Loose Women every (work)day of the week is sympotomatic of the ridiculous double-standards that plague today's society and are more likely to breed prejudice and misogyny than tackle it.

I do however agree he's a wally, he made a complete prat of himself, and I've not missed him nor Gray (who I could never stand in the first place) since they left.

In answer to the OP however I would say the only thing that's relevant (and should ever be relevant) is the applicant's ability to do the job. It is for this reason and this reason only that I don't think Keys should be on Boxnation.

by No1Jonesy Tue 14 Feb - 13:12

Mind the windows Tino. wrote: You're a strange little man, Jack. Are you attempting to take Jonesy title as angriest poster?

Jog on Tino - bit of a numpty really aren't you

by Rowley Tue 14 Feb - 13:14

Can we all take it down a notch please, have better things to do with my day than remove posts or clean up petty arguments and name calling

by No1Jonesy Tue 14 Feb - 13:18

rowley wrote:Can we all take it down a notch please, have better things to do with my day than remove posts or clean up petty arguments and name calling

Someone tries to mug me off - i'm going to respond

by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 14 Feb - 13:19

rowley wrote:have better things to do with my day

No you don't.

But point taken, was only having a giggle with my old buddy, Jack.

by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 14 Feb - 13:20

No1Jonesy wrote:
Someone tries to mug me off - i'm going to respond

I'm stopping now, for sure. I had no idea I was messing with Danny Dyer.

by Rowley Tue 14 Feb - 13:20

No1Jonesy wrote:
rowley wrote:Can we all take it down a notch please, have better things to do with my day than remove posts or clean up petty arguments and name calling

Someone tries to mug me off - i'm going to respond

And someone continues to ignore requests from the moderation team or the house rules I'll ban them, am happy to continue this to see who it ends well for, or we can all behave and move on

by No1Jonesy Tue 14 Feb - 13:25

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
No1Jonesy wrote:
Someone tries to mug me off - i'm going to respond

I'm stopping now, for sure. I had no idea I was messing with Danny Dyer.

You're not - you'll do well to remember that warning

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 Feb - 13:42

Maybe Keys came cheap......Or maybe because the World of Boxing is a male dominated ..he's believed to be some kind of male-hero in this Country!!!

Surely there are other young presenters that deserve a shot at presenting..

by No1Jonesy Tue 14 Feb - 13:48

In response yto the OP:

I also believe Keys shouldn't be presenting on this channel! Not because of past exploits but because he has not got a clue about boxing!

There has been numerous occasions whilst listening to him discuss boxing that i've wanted to chew my own ears off if I could!! Thank god they have people like Buncy to correct him and really put him in his place

How can Boxing hope to appeal to the masses when the only dedicated channel does not even put in place presenters with experience and expertise in the sport?

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 Feb - 13:54

Valid points Jonesy boy............He's probably on there because he's established as a name and is cheap...

Shame some young enthusiastic guy/girl that likes his/her Boxing hasn't been given a break..

by TopHat24/7 Tue 14 Feb - 13:55

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
No1Jonesy wrote:
Someone tries to mug me off - i'm going to respond

I'm stopping now, for sure. I had no idea I was messing with Danny Dyer.

by No1Jonesy Tue 14 Feb - 13:57

TopHat24/7 wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
No1Jonesy wrote:
Someone tries to mug me off - i'm going to respond

I'm stopping now, for sure. I had no idea I was messing with Danny Dyer.

Was wondering how long it'd take for Tino's bumchum to pop up...... Hug

by No1Jonesy Tue 14 Feb - 13:59

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Valid points Jonesy boy............He's probably on there because he's established as a name and is cheap...

Shame some young enthusiastic guy/girl that likes his/her Boxing hasn't been given a break..

Would've been the perfect start for someone new boxing enthusiast / presenter come on the scene... I just hope the casual boxing fan takes whatever Key's says with a pinch of salt!

by TopHat24/7 Tue 14 Feb - 14:32

No1Jonesy wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
No1Jonesy wrote:
Someone tries to mug me off - i'm going to respond

I'm stopping now, for sure. I had no idea I was messing with Danny Dyer.

Was wondering how long it'd take for Tino's bumchum to pop up......

Yeh, alright Danny, now get back to your pie mash and jellied eels.....

by No1Jonesy Tue 14 Feb - 14:54

TopHat24/7 wrote:
No1Jonesy wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
No1Jonesy wrote:
Someone tries to mug me off - i'm going to respond

I'm stopping now, for sure. I had no idea I was messing with Danny Dyer.

Was wondering how long it'd take for Tino's bumchum to pop up......

Yeh, alright Danny, now get back to your pie mash and jellied eels.....

Quite like pie & mash and jellied eels thanks - don't see how thats a diss??

Now please direct yaself back to Tino's pants and don't leave it's vicinity until he gives you permission! thumbsup

by Rowley Tue 14 Feb - 14:57

Any chance we can all stop trying to have the last word on this thread because I can promise you all it will not be any of you that gets the last word. Either debate the topic or move on.

by Super D Boon Tue 14 Feb - 15:09

Rowley as a moderator! I leave for a few weeks and this happens!!

Anyway, please could somebody have a rethink with the advertisement on this site? It looks as though Klitsckho is a skinny rake and Chisora a muscled giant!

by Rowley Tue 14 Feb - 15:11

Super D Boon wrote:

Anyway, please could somebody have a rethink with the advertisement on this site? It looks as though Klitsckho is a skinny rake and Chisora a muscled giant!

Ha, think that is the idea mate, convince people Dereck has a chance, is subliminal marketing, you get to feel clever for having seen through it.

by NathanDB10 Tue 14 Feb - 15:12

Seems I'm late to this party, but for my money, I don't think Keys should be on boxnation for the simple fact that every time I've seen him, he appears to know next to nothing about boxing, not because of any past mistakes.

All his comments and "anaylsis" seem forced, just so he can fit in. I used to know a guy who watched the sopranos just so he could talk about it with us the next day and fit in. Keys gives off the same sort of vibes, I'm not sure he really cares about boxing as a sport, more so he is just doing it for a job on TV.

Also, I think boxnation gave him a job the same reason talksport did, because they think their typical audience (as they believe them to be) probably don't care about the sexism stuff, and maybe even agree with Keys'/Grey's views on it.

I saw Carol Vorderman interview Cleverly on boxnation a few days ago, it would be interesting to see if Keys presents a show with her.

by Super D Boon Tue 14 Feb - 15:13

Thanks, I feel right clever for spotting that as it happens! Very Happy

Anyway, congratulations on your promotion! Is there any extra pay or is it a development opportunity? Smile

by Rowley Tue 14 Feb - 15:19

Super D Boon wrote:

Anyway, congratulations on your promotion! Is there any extra pay or is it a development opportunity?

I was offered absolute fortunes to take the job, but to be honest the chance to follow all you around cleaning up petty arguments and increasingly creative attempts to get round the swear filter were obviously reward enough

by Super D Boon Tue 14 Feb - 15:23

Good man. Declining your big fat pay raise during these austere times is a gesture to be lauded!

by The Galveston Giant Tue 14 Feb - 15:37

I find keys too hairy, he's annoying thats for sure.

by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 14 Feb - 15:53

The Galveston Giant wrote:I find keys too hairy, he's annoying thats for sure.

I heard he had the hair removed from his hands with the advent of HD TV. Could have been rubbish though.

If he did, he must be regretting that now he is on Boxnation, he could wear a chewbacca suit and no-one would notice.

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 Feb - 15:53

Wouldn't mind presenting a show with vorderman....

Maybe the... lover's guide to Better sex... or something

by Super D Boon Tue 14 Feb - 16:05

Come to think of it. Does Martin Tyler still do Sky football? Can't stand that guy either. He's a complete moron who screams when anyone scores. They should have thrown the book at him too!

by The Galveston Giant Tue 14 Feb - 16:08

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
The Galveston Giant wrote:I find keys too hairy, he's annoying thats for sure.

I heard he had the hair removed from his hands with the advent of HD TV. Could have been rubbish though.

If he did, he must be regretting that now he is on Boxnation, he could wear a chewbacca suit and no-one would notice.

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 Feb - 16:17

Screams when Utd score more like......Ferguson backside licker..

by The Galveston Giant Tue 14 Feb - 16:28

Yeah i hate when he screams Rooney, i can hear it now.

by Nico the gman Tue 14 Feb - 16:30

I couldn't stand Richard Keys on Sky,smug git and not that knowledgeable on football and same boxing knowledge nil.

Sack Keys and replace him with Holly Willoughby or Kelly Brooks same boxing expertise as Keys, but hell who cares might as well look at something good talking rubbish.

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 Feb - 16:31

Holly Willoughby half naked please...

and then I'll subscribe......

by The Galveston Giant Tue 14 Feb - 16:31

I agree Nico, why not if they both have the same knowledge.

by tcribb Tue 14 Feb - 16:48

Richard Keys actually presented Sky's ringside program in the early 90s when the excellent Gary Norman departed so his knowledge isn't that limited, as for the question no I don't think he should I'd much prefer someone like Paul Dempsey.

But anything other an Glenn McCrory and Adam Smith

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 Feb - 16:50

You're Right...can't stand McCrory he's so prone to over-exaggeration and hyperbole....

Smith is butt licker extraordinaire..

by tcribb Tue 14 Feb - 16:53

Totally agree mate !

I don't like anyone really come to think of it, maybes just skip the presenting!

by Benelio Tue 14 Feb - 16:58

tcribb wrote:Totally agree mate !

I don't like anyone really come to think of it, maybes just skip the presenting!

Howabout a narration by Morgan Freeman linking everything together?

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