Cardiff Blues v Ulster Friday 17th February, Cardiff Arms Park (kick off 7.05pm):

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Ulster Match Day Squad to face Cardiff, Friday 17th February 2012, Cardiff Arms Park (kick-off 7.05pm)
(15-9): S Terblanche; C Gilroy, N Spence, P Wallace, I Whitten; I Humphreys, R Pienaar;
(1-8): T Court, N Brady, J Afoa, L Stevenson, D Tuohy, C Henry (capt), W Faloon, R Diack;
Replacements (16-23): A Kyriacou, P McAllister, A Macklin, T Barker, M McComish, P Marshall, S Danielli, A D'Arcy

Unavailable due to injury: Jared Payne (achilles), Declan Fitzpatrick (neck), Darren Cave (foot), Pedrie Wannenburg (foot), Johann Muller (calf), Ali Birch (knee)

Cardiff XV: 15 Ben Blair 14 Richard Mustoe 13 Gavin Evans 12 Gavin Henson 11 Tom James 10 Dan Parks 9 Lloyd Williams 8 Xavier Rush 7 Josh Navidi 6 Michael Paterson 5 Paul Tito (c) 4 Cory Hill 3 Scott Andrews 2 Ryan Tyrell 1 John Yapp

Replacaments: 16 T Rhys Thomas 17 Nathan Trevett 18 Ryan Harford 19 Maama Molitika 20 Martyn Williams 21 Richie Rees 22 Ceri Sweeney 23 Chris Czekaj

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I think I'll continue calling them Cardiff Blues, as that is what I've always known them as. As long as you stick Blues at the end of it, then is it alright?

So long as you don't get cut off on the phone or accidentally hit send in a forum or something... maybe.

Just make damn sure you don't just say Blues and you'll be okay.

If the clowns on the board of directors had just called themselves something a bit more original that 'Blues' and dropped the 'Cardiff' bit then we wouldnt even be having this discussion. The sooner people like the horrible Pieman and his sidekick Norster are out of Welsh rugby the better

ha aye, think you've got it Rory.

rugbydreamer wrote:MrsP - aha I get you now. Tis only a 20 min walk from CAP to CSS, so yes, many many more will go because its at CAP not CCS. if you belive the rumours, there's been about 3K or so fans that have refused to go and watch the Blues simply because the games are at CCS.

After a few seasons of complaining they've finally got their wish to be playing some games back at CAP.

There's a lot more too it than that though rugbydreamer.

Notch wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I think I'll continue calling them Cardiff Blues, as that is what I've always known them as. As long as you stick Blues at the end of it, then is it alright?

So long as you don't get cut off on the phone or accidentally hit send in a forum or something... maybe.

Just make damn sure you don't just say Blues and you'll be okay.

Don't you mean don't just say Cardiff? Ahhh

Cardiff Dave wrote:

rugbydreamer wrote:MrsP - aha I get you now. Tis only a 20 min walk from CAP to CSS, so yes, many many more will go because its at CAP not CCS. if you belive the rumours, there's been about 3K or so fans that have refused to go and watch the Blues simply because the games are at CCS.

After a few seasons of complaining they've finally got their wish to be playing some games back at CAP.

There's a lot more too it than that though rugbydreamer.

Oh yeah, for sure (there always is in Welsh rugby!). I just want these fans to actually turn up at the CAP now, the Blues do need some positive vibes, they've had a pretty miserable season so far, despite making the HEC QF. They need a boost from somewhere.

Jimmy Moz wrote:If the clowns on the board of directors had just called themselves something a bit more original that 'Blues' and dropped the 'Cardiff' bit then we wouldnt even be having this discussion. The sooner people like the horrible Pieman and his sidekick Norster are out of Welsh rugby the better

G'wan Jimmy. Get off the fence. Tell us what you REALLY think.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Don't you mean don't just say Cardiff? Ahhh

No you can say 'Cardiff' all you want

You just have to pay Peter Thomas £20 and go to the Arms Park first. Can chant it all night long then like the rest do...

Maybe we should start calling The Scarlets, the Llanelli "Vivid" Reds!

Jimmy Moz wrote:If the clowns on the board of directors had just called themselves something a bit more original that 'Blues' and dropped the 'Cardiff' bit then we wouldnt even be having this discussion. The sooner people like the horrible Pieman and his sidekick Norster are out of Welsh rugby the better

Get in there Jimmy.
So would've Ponty fans travelled down the A470 to support the Blues at Cardiff Arms Park all those years ago?

Cardiff Dave wrote:Get in there Jimmy.
So would've Ponty fans travelled down the A470 to support the Blues at Cardiff Arms Park all those years ago?

We will never know now

That's a thought actually.

Isn't that what the fans chant at games?

Keirrrrrrrrrdif!

rugbydreamer wrote:

Oh yeah, for sure (there always is in Welsh rugby!). I just want these fans to actually turn up at the CAP now, the Blues do need some positive vibes, they've had a pretty miserable season so far, despite making the HEC QF. They need a boost from somewhere.

They need financial stability first and fourmost coz the deal at CCS is killing them.

MrsP wrote:Maybe we should start calling The Scarlets, the Llanelli "Vivid" Reds!

not sure that's quite catchy enough!

MrsP wrote:That's a thought actually.

Isn't that what the fans chant at games?

Keirrrrrrrrrdif!

Yes.

MrsP - it is indeed, it's mightily annoying, it even annoys a lot of Blues fans!

Cardiff Dave - oh definitely. I really hope there is some sort of get out clause with them and the deal at the CCS. The rumours about the loss they're going to make from it is crazy. They need out of it asap really.

rugbydreamer wrote:MrsP - it is indeed, it's mightily annoying, it even annoys a lot of Blues fans!

I don't get it. Why should chanting "Cardiff" annoy Blues fans when the team has been known as Cardiff Blues from the very beginning?

maybe because a lot of fans are actually from outside of Cardiff? Why would they want to chant Cardiff?

Jimmy Moz wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:Get in there Jimmy.
So would've Ponty fans travelled down the A470 to support the Blues at Cardiff Arms Park all those years ago?

We will never know now

Be honest Jimmy, you lot didn't really buy into the Celtic Warriors, so I think it would fair to suggest you also wouldn't have bought into a Blues side especially when its home was Cardiff Arms Park.

Cardiff Dave wrote:Be honest Jimmy, you lot didn't really buy into the Celtic Warriors, so I think it would fair to suggest you also wouldn't have bought into a Blues side especially when its home was Cardiff Arms Park.

Yes we are just a horrible bunch who dont deserve any rugby at all

rugbydreamer wrote:maybe because a lot of fans are actually from outside of Cardiff? Why would they want to chant Cardiff?

What has where they live or where they come from got to with it?
The name of the team is Cardiff Blues and has been from the very beginning. If they don't want to chant Cardiff then fine, but why object if somebody else wants to? They can always chant Blues if they want.

Cardiff Dave wrote:What has where they live or where they come from got to with it?
The name of the team is Cardiff Blues and has been from the very beginning. If they don't want to chant Cardiff then fine, but why object if somebody else wants to? They can always chant Blues if they want.

And now the true colours are starting to show. Shame...

Jimmy Moz wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:Be honest Jimmy, you lot didn't really buy into the Celtic Warriors, so I think it would fair to suggest you also wouldn't have bought into a Blues side especially when its home was Cardiff Arms Park.

Yes we are just a horrible bunch who dont deserve any rugby at all

I signed your petition Jimmy and I don't think you are a horrible bunch at all. Let's get that straight, but stop blaming Cardiff and everybody else for all your woes.

Jimmy Moz wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:What has where they live or where they come from got to with it?
The name of the team is Cardiff Blues and has been from the very beginning. If they don't want to chant Cardiff then fine, but why object if somebody else wants to? They can always chant Blues if they want.

And now the true colours are starting to show. Shame...

Here we go.
All i'm saying is that the name of the team is Cardiff Blues and it's ok for people to chant Cardiff, Blues or Cardiff Blues because that is the name of the team.

Cardiff Dave wrote:I signed your petition Jimmy and I don't think you are a horrible bunch at all. Let's get that straight, but stop blaming Cardiff and everybody else for all your woes.

I dont blame Cardiff. I blame the WRU for allowing Cardiff to do what they have. Same goes for Llanelli and Newport

The best team Ponty could have gone in with is Neath if im honest. That would have covered the whole of RCT, Merthyr and Neath Port Talbot counties. Alternated games at the Gnoll and Sardis. Even stick a few in Penydarren Park

Now neither Neath or Ponty bother with their "regions". Bridged seem quite happy with the Ospreys so maybe they should have merged with Swansea from the start. Shame about the Dragons keeping the 'Newport' bit. They would be a proper region if it wasnt for that. Cardiff and Llanelli can do what the hell they like as far as myself and the WRU are concerned

We're gonna be in BIG TROUBLE when Rava see what a mess we've made of his lovely article!!!



It was all Penfro's fault!

THat's just what I was thinking MrsP!

righty quickly back on topic....


Anyone know when the actual teams are going to be announced? I would assume tomorrow? Hope the Blues have some of their injured players back fit, especially in the back line. With Roberts away they are really missing the likes of Hewitt.

Can we call Cardiff Dave just "Dave"?

Yes! But you must NEVER call him Cardiff!

Don Alfonso wrote:Can we call Cardiff Dave just "Dave"?

Too regional.

MrsP wrote:Yes! But you must NEVER call him Cardiff!

Boom!

Jimmy Moz wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:I signed your petition Jimmy and I don't think you are a horrible bunch at all. Let's get that straight, but stop blaming Cardiff and everybody else for all your woes.

I dont blame Cardiff. I blame the WRU for allowing Cardiff to do what they have. Same goes for Llanelli and Newport

The best team Ponty could have gone in with is Neath if im honest. That would have covered the whole of RCT, Merthyr and Neath Port Talbot counties. Alternated games at the Gnoll and Sardis. Even stick a few in Penydarren Park

Now neither Neath or Ponty bother with their "regions". Bridged seem quite happy with the Ospreys so maybe they should have merged with Swansea from the start. Shame about the Dragons keeping the 'Newport' bit. They would be a proper region if it wasnt for that. Cardiff and Llanelli can do what the hell they like as far as myself and the WRU are concerned

Yes, but Ponty were broke back then, had no backer and therefore unfortunately for you fans had no say.
Why that was the case I don't know, but maybe it had something to do with the way the club was being run.

Maybe we should just rename this article,

"The Welsh Welsh bickering Article"

and start a new one about the match?

PenfroPete wrote:Jenny - the point I'm trying to (rather hamfistedly) make, is that they are CARDIFF BLUES not Cardiff. It's a small but appreciable difference.

Personally, I'd like to see BLUES, DRAGONS, OSPREYS and SCARLETS as the 'official' names and each region to play at least some games away from their HQ

i agree.



i have been getting quite wound up by the cardiff blues over the last week. i heard some cardiff blues guy saying about the recent cap games, 'we are listening to the fans'. if, IF!!!, if they had been listening we wouldnt have gone to the schitty schtadium in the first place. now we are saddled with a 20YEAR?!?!?!?!? lease to pay there (not a typo, we dont play there but we still pay there) what a fffffarce.

i was at that retail park today. we are paying thousands of pounds a week to have the cardiff blues badge on a football stadium.

some one needs a size 12 up their a2se

Remember that Godawful brandng thing years ago where we all got unwieldy NFL-esque titles? Ukster White Knights, Leinster Lions, Munster - Turnipheads? What was theirs? Anyway, they all died a death, thank goodness.

Personally, I get upset that so many of our supporters drop the "Branch" from our title. it dilutes our connection with the IRFU...

How's the newest Alfonso?

Munster turnipheads!

Breaking news BBCNI have just advertised the game as Cardiff V Ulster!

roddersm wrote:Breaking news BBCNI have just advertised the game as Cardiff V Ulster!

Hale and hearty, MrsP. All's good in The Zoo. His big brothers have been very good with him.

Don,

If it's any comfort, it doesn't get any busier than 3.

Or at least it doesn't until they all start to do all the after school stuff.

So when's the Cardiff team announced then?

Cardiff Blues play in this league

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/tables/4777185.stm

Cardiff play in this one.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/tables/4777221.stm

Cymro,

Do we have to say it's being played in Cardiff Blues Arms Park?

Cardiff Arms Park will do fine

It's only the Cardiff Blues fans from Ponty who get upset. No one has a problem with calling Cardiff City FC the Bluebirds. Perhaps the rugby region could adopt that title to rival the Ospreys and have a scary looking mascot like this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gME8nuaWlis/TfdTsBCOEGI/AAAAAAAAAqM/w5Gc-RY-loA/s1600/AngryBird+Soft+Toys+%252815inch%2529+-+Blue+Bird+RM39.90.jpg

Cari wrote:

Nooooooo Cari, Not You

Just the article in general. I think there are about six posts on topic

Clearly we need. Less divisive moniker for this particular Welsh team. What about "the Eurythmics"?

In that note, I would fully endorse any proposal to rename Ulster "the New Power Generation".