Chisora in decent shape.

Spoiler:

Again, apologies for the source. The genuine answer is that I have a friend who is a huge boxing fan and also happens to read the Mail, he sends me stuff. Honestly.

Anyway, one of the pictures shows Del Boy looking in terrific shape, especially compared to some other pictures of him sporting breasts that Katie Price would be envious of.

He looks like he is taking this one very seriously, as well he should, but will it make any difference? Now he is in shape, I can see him making the final bell and dropping a decision to Vitali. If he was in the kind of shape he was in for Tyson Fury then I would have expected Vitali to break him down and stop him late, but now he looks trim, I can see him landing enough to keep Vitali honest and having the condition to see the final bell.

Anyone agree, or is he just a lamb to the slaughter?

I would have made a poll, but I couldn't be bothered.

Wow, gone yourself Del Boy, i'm proud of him.

Much, much more like the shape he should always be in.

However, still very much a lamb to the slaughter. It takes more than good shape to even give Dr Ironfist a contest.

Fists of Fury wrote:Much, much more like the shape he should always be in.

However, still very much a lamb to the slaughter. It takes more than good shape to even give Dr Ironfist a contest.

Do you think he can see the end of the fight, Fists? Or is getting stopped?

Fair play, looks in top shape. Gwarrrrn Del Boy!

I think he is out of their about the eight, totally agree it is a positive that he looks to be in shape and I do genuinely get the impression he is going to win rather than take an easy payday but the gap in talent and experience is just too wide, definitely don't think he has the power to hurt Vitali which leaves him needing to outpoint him and for me can't see him getting inside the jab often enough to be effective or getting out of trouble on the occasions he can get round the jab.

I'm actually looking forward to a Klitschko fight for a change, i'll be rootin tootin for Chisora but i don't know what to do in the prediction league yet.

"If so, Del Boy will add the most memorable piece of all to his curious collection of antiques - the old green and gold WBC belt previously worn not only by Vitali Klitschko but Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Rocky Marciano and Joe Louis among a myriad of legends in heavyweight history. "

Marciano and Louis wore the WBC belt?

They do say that you learn something every day....

Thanks Daily Mail.

I'll be shouting for Chisora all the way but in the prediction league it's Vitali by EKO!

Still carrying a bit of tub. For the fight of his life I would expect more.

I know others seem happy, but I for one am disappointed.

johnson2 wrote:Still carrying a bit of tub. For the fight of his life I would expect more.

I know others seem happy, but I for one am disappointed.

You'd rather he went in there ripped at 14 stone?

Might just be one of those guys that carry it Johnson, Larry Holmes never looked ripped or whatever else you want to call it and it never did him too much harm. Personally I think a bit of timber will not hurt him hugely in this fight. Suspect if he comes in too light he will get bullied by Vitali, for me it is about getting the balance right between carrying enough extra weight to counter act Vitali's obvious physical advantages but not coming in overweight and the shots suggests to be he might have the balance right in this one.

I think chisora should make the final bell.

He took huge shots from helenius and fury and was never close to getting stopped. I know these 2 don't hit as hard but they are very big men and have good knockouts on there CV's.

He looks good though. He will need speed and stamina to even past 6 rounds. The problem for me is will he get on the inside, vitali may be slow but he controls the range very well and will outmuscle you on the inside. Derek doesn't have the power imo to discourage vitali

I will go for a UD, although you must wonder why he didn't take the fury fight seriously

Union Cane wrote:

johnson2 wrote:Still carrying a bit of tub. For the fight of his life I would expect more.

I know others seem happy, but I for one am disappointed.

You'd rather he went in there ripped at 14 stone?

Where did I state that?

Give it a rest.

This shows that Chisora is in for the long haul. Good luck to him!

I think Vitali will really control rounds 1 - 6 and if he's not able to hurt Chisora, he'll start being more aggressive, and the more aggressive Vitali is the better chance Chisora has of getting him with a lucky shot.

Good on him, he looks like he's given his all in training.

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:
I will go for a UD, although you must wonder why he didn't take the fury fight seriously

Indeed. He must be kicking himself now. Perhaps he thought he would just turn up and batter him, but looking at him now, it was a truly disgraceful condition that he turned up in that night.

I agree that he doesn't have the power to really keep Vitali off him, but he throws quick punches and maybe he can throw enough to stop Vitali just walking straight through him. I think Dereck will take a fair beating, but I can see him hanging on to the bitter end.

johnson2 wrote:

Union Cane wrote:

johnson2 wrote:Still carrying a bit of tub. For the fight of his life I would expect more.

I know others seem happy, but I for one am disappointed.

You'd rather he went in there ripped at 14 stone?

Where did I state that?

Give it a rest.

Give what a rest?

I didn't say you did state that did I?

I was asking (hence the question mark) whether you thought that coming in ripped at 14 stone would be preferable to coming in heavier with a bit of tub, as that is what you seemed to be alluding to. As rowley has pointed out, this would not seem to be the best way for Chisora to approach this fight.

They banned his Only Fools and Horses Entrance music.... he's dead meat now

He has also apparently turned down £70k for someone to advertise on the soles of his boots. Read about the theme music, does make you wonder, has often been reported the brothers contracts are tough but if they have the ability to veto what music their opponent can come out to it does suggest they really do go into some detail.

I see he turned down a reported 70k from an advertiser who offered to sponsor the soles of his boots. So I guess hes turning up for more than a pay day which is encouraging. However I believe this is often the case with Klitschko opponents but after a few rounds they simply run out of ideas, cant deal with the range and wind up going into a shell.

“Why would I want anyone to advertise on the soles of my boots? The only time you’ll see the soles of my feet is when I’m dead. Or maybe running for a bus but believe me, I won’t be running on Saturday night.”

You gotta love him.

Yeah I dont think the Fools and Horses music really fitted with the Klitschkos grand entrances idea. Would have been funny.

Union Cane wrote:

johnson2 wrote:

Union Cane wrote:

johnson2 wrote:Still carrying a bit of tub. For the fight of his life I would expect more.

I know others seem happy, but I for one am disappointed.

You'd rather he went in there ripped at 14 stone?

Where did I state that?

Give it a rest.

Give what a rest?

I didn't say you did state that did I?

I was asking (hence the question mark) whether you thought that coming in ripped at 14 stone would be preferable to coming in heavier with a bit of tub, as that is what you seemed to be alluding to. As rowley has pointed out, this would not seem to be the best way for Chisora to approach this fight.

Why do you pop up everytime I make a comment.

I'll explain. Chisora wont win this fight by being stronger than Vit. He needs to rely on speed, rolling under his shots to get his own work off then out again. The lighter he can be, the easier this will be for him. Not everyone can be ripped, I agree, but he must still be sitting around the 20% body fat mark which for a pro athlete is pretty poor. As the OP has said, he is in decent shape, poor considering he has a shot at the greatest prize in boxing.

I hold down a full time job and still manage to get myself into better shape than him, and by some margin. Obviously lacks the dedication I have.

What channel will this fight be on? Didn't see it on sky sports.

Boxnation Jay, they have been advertising on here for about the last week mate, should be at the top of your page.

Can't see Dereck winning this, much as I'd love him to. Vitali TKO9.

Love the fact he is taking it seriously, and has obviously put in the effort.

johnson2 wrote:Why do you pop up everytime I make a comment.

To be honest mate, I am waiting for you to break a house rule (any of them will do, there are plenty), so that I can take great pleasure in permanantly banning you.

Union Cane wrote:

johnson2 wrote:Why do you pop up everytime I make a comment.

To be honest mate, I am waiting for you to break a house rule (any of them will do, there are plenty), so that I can take great pleasure in permanantly banning you.

Union, if you want to do it then go ahead. I've tried to debate boxing, gave my reasons for being unhappy with Chisora's weight and the only thing you pick from my post is the unrelated boxing sentance. I'm not the one at fault here.

What if going much lighter does more damage than good though Johnson?

Fair play to him, have loved some of his comments. Apparently he has some new shorts but won't say what they are as he wants to surprise Vitali.

hampo171 wrote:What if going much lighter does more damage than good though Johnson?

Fair play to him, have loved some of his comments. Apparently he has some new shorts but won't say what they are as he wants to surprise Vitali.

One of the most bizarre things I have ever read!

Made me chuckle when I heard it, think it was on fighting talk last week.

hampo171 wrote:What if going much lighter does more damage than good though Johnson?

Fair play to him, have loved some of his comments. Apparently he has some new shorts but won't say what they are as he wants to surprise Vitali.

Dont see how it could. The fat wont give him any extra strength or pop in his punches... He would be mad to try wrestle with Vit, and even with extra weight it wouldnt prove useful because he will just be getting leaned on.

If you've walked around at say 18 stone though, dropping four stone is bound to have an effect.

Anybody got any suggetions as to what music Del Boy should use now? What about the dambusters?

I still think he needs to carry a bit of weight, whilst obviously there is no margin for him in trying to wrestle with Vitali, given that Chisora ain't exactly Ali in terms of mobility, speed or movement seems inevitable there will be points in the fight where he founds himself being leaned on held, for me the extra weight if it is not too excessive will give him the strength to extricate himself from these situations, which is essential.

rowley wrote:I still think he needs to carry a bit of weight, whilst obviously there is no margin for him in trying to wrestle with Vitali, given that Chisora ain't exactly Ali in terms of mobility, speed or movement seems inevitable there will be points in the fight where he founds himself being leaned on held, for me the extra weight if it is not too excessive will give him the strength to extricate himself from these situations, which is essential.

Then he should bulk up, not eat pies or miss a jog...

Fat (to the extent he has it) serves absolutely no purpose in this type of fight.

"decent" shape isn't enough.

He needs to be in the best shape of his life to be in with a chance.

Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:"decent" shape isn't enough.

It was just a word I plucked out of the air. I imagine he is in the best shape of his life. He certainly looks it.

Chis is never going to be ripped or close to it. If he ever came in ripped, he'll get KO'd mid round as he tires. Muscles tighten up when you get tired. Having some body fat means you burn that off first.

azania wrote:Chis is never going to be ripped or close to it. If he ever came in ripped, he'll get KO'd mid round as he tires. Muscles tighten up when you get tired. Having some body fat means you burn that off first.

You still have muscles when you have fat...

And what would suggest he is KO'd because he is 'ripped'...

Not true regarding your statement about burning fat either.

johnson2 wrote:

azania wrote:Chis is never going to be ripped or close to it. If he ever came in ripped, he'll get KO'd mid round as he tires. Muscles tighten up when you get tired. Having some body fat means you burn that off first.

You still have muscles when you have fat...

And what would suggest he is KO'd because he is 'ripped'...

Not true regarding your statement about burning fat either.

Obiously. But better to burn off some fat than burn off muscles. If he's ripped, it would be against his body composition it seems. It would mean he would have to utilise different methods of training to get ripped. It would affect his stamina and lead to a KO. The greatest HWs in history were not ripped. Even Tyson. Holy was, but there's a theory about that.

I have a funny feeling Del Boy is going to come out of this with his head held high.

And in turn, making David Haye look even more of an embarrasment than he was made to look when he took his step up.

I would say if he lost too much weight from his last fight then it would affect his punch resistance.

He was at about 240 when he fought helenius, I doubt he's that much lighter so he shouldn't lose punch resistance.

Being fat would serve no purpose in this fight. Vitali is a mountain of a man and chisora is just too small.

He needs to be able to roll vitali's slow shots but needs to get off quickly when he gets on the inside as vitali will lean on him if he takes too long

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:I have a funny feeling Del Boy is going to come out of this with his head held high.

And in turn, making David Haye look even more of an embarrasment than he was made to look when he took his step up.

With all due respect to fighters stepping in with the K Boys (or anyone else for that matter) I don't think Chisora is going to have to perform miracles to make Haye's effort look mediocre.

However....

Whilst I wish Chisora all the luck in the world and will be rooting for him to pull off a massive upset this weekend, there's a small part of me that wants him to get a bit of a slapping so he can come out afterwards and say "David Haye wen't 12 rounds with the brother and never looked liked getting KO'd? He must be better than I thought..."

BTW completely off topic, I'm hoping Lennox Lewis' words are resonating in Haye's head at the moment. Even Lennox thinks Haye should stop showboating towards another crack at the HW title and get in with a couple of top contenders first. If Haye admires Lewis enough, one would hope he'd take his advice on this one.

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:

He needs to be able to roll vitali's slow shots but needs to get off quickly

Don't know how to break this to you but am not sure they have perfected the talent transplant procedure just yet.

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:I have a funny feeling Del Boy is going to come out of this with his head held high.

And in turn, making David Haye look even more of an embarrasment than he was made to look when he took his step up.

I hope for his sake he doesn't go into the fight with his head held high.

Unfair on Haye as he faced the far better boxer brother.

azania wrote:

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:I have a funny feeling Del Boy is going to come out of this with his head held high.

And in turn, making David Haye look even more of an embarrasment than he was made to look when he took his step up.

I hope for his sake he doesn't go into the fight with his head held high.

Unfair on Haye as he faced the far better boxer brother.

In fairness to Reborn, I think he's talking about Haye's lack of agression/passion during the biggest night of his life....even Audley's looking at a bit of redemption.

Haye's lack of aggression was due to Wlad's superb boxing. He simply is the better boxer. Many bought into Haye's hype. That he couldn't live up to it is due to Wlad's better boxing that nullified anything Haye tried to do.

he does look in good shape and fair play to him.

read the rubbish thats posted below in the comments section:

Calling Chisora British is why 'British' is no longer an identity. If anyone can be British and anything eg Curries can be British then WHAT IS BRITISH? This anyone and anything idology is why this country has no pride in who and what it is. Britishness is now so cheap it is worthles
- English not British!, Wakefield ENGLAND, 16/2/2012 10:51
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He is a natural heavyweight and I think he has more of a chance than Haye did. Anyway, as Steve Martin said; "the only thing I know about boxing is never bet on the white guy!"
- Mark , minster, Kent., 16/2/2012 10:51
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He's as British as Klitschko.
- AKN, UK, 16/2/2012 10:31
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if he was born in zimbabwe then he is not and can never be 'as british as a red phone box'.
- nononsenseman, windsor, 16/2/2012 09:50

who says the daily mail attracts a certain type of reader.