Southern Hemisphere Lions...?

As the excitement builds over 18 months away from the next British and Irish Lions tour, four nations, technically five, come together and tour one of the Southern Hemisphere nations. This time its the Australians, possibly the form team of World Rugby, young, fast devastating in counter attack.

But how much fun would it to have a reverse fixture?

The best of South Africa, Argentina, New Zealand and Australia combined touring the UK. Maybe attempting a three match series vs one nation or maybe touring all Six Nations in one go with one off tests.

Can we start beating their teams individually first before we let them all band together? Otherwise it could just get nasty...

I would keep it to SA, Australia and NZ, not sure England colonised Argentina.

CJ, where's your sense of fun.

Woodcock
Bismarck
Franks
Whitelock
Bekker
Pococlk
McCaw
Read
Genia
Carter
Ioane
SBW
AAC
Corey Jane
Curtly Beale

It'll be fun,

biltongbek wrote:I would keep it to SA, Australia and NZ, not sure England colonised Argentina.

CJ, where's your sense of fun.

Woodcock
Bismarck
Franks
Whitelock
Bekker
Pococlk
McCaw
Read
Genia
Carter
Ioane
SBW
AAC
Corey Jane
Curtly Beale

It'll be fun,

for you guys maybe! our teams struggle enough!

Sounds great to me...!

A South African,a Kiwi and an Aussie go into a bar to have a beer.The South African drinks his beer,throws his glass in the air,pulls out his gun and shoots the glass to pieces,and says 'In Seth Efrika our glasses are so cheap we dont have to drink out of the same one twice.".

The Kiwi,having seen the South African,drinks his beer,throws his glass in the air,pulls out his gun and shooots the glass to bits,and says " Well mate.in Niw Zulland weve got so much sand that we dont have to drink out of the same glass twice".

The Aussie looks at the other two,then picks up his beer,downs it in one gulp.then throws his glass in the air,pulls out his gun and shoots the South African and the Kiwi,and says " In Stralia weve got so many blood ee South Africans and Kiwis we dont have to drink with the same ones twice".

I think a Southern Hemisphere Lions team would probably end up with a similar result.

Hmmmm, yeah...maybe it's a little early for you guys to be canoodling under the one duvet.

Where's your sense of adventure mate, your sense of belief?

It will be great to see Ozzies (without guns), Kiwi's and Saffers sit shoulder to shoulder at Twickenham, Millenium stadium, Croke Park or Murrayfield wearing a barbarian style black, yellow and green jumper.


Come to think of it all those colours are on the SA flag.




Yep, great idea.

biltongbek wrote:I would keep it to SA, Australia and NZ, not sure England colonised Argentina.

Dont the Falklands count?

It's all good................................................................................. until is isn't.

It's when it isn't all good that the trouble starts. The Ozaffwis loose their first tour...... who get's the blame? Because blame is one of the most important traditions. Which player or players do we pin the 'loser' tag onto? And he/they won't be Ozaffwis then. Nope, they'll be reminded what shirt they usually wear. The player and his nation then have that particular sh** hit the fan anytime their brotherly neighbours want a blunt weapon to strke out with. Next tour and the stresses rise. "I hope it ain't our fault again this time, mate...couldn't live with another four years of that"

Ozaffwis

You might as well make it the Ostriches.

No worries, we'll blame Bryce Lawrence.

Even if he wasn't there

SecretFly wrote:It's all good................................................................................. until is isn't.

It's when it isn't all good that the trouble starts. The Ozaffwis loose their first tour...... who get's the blame? Because blame is one of the most important traditions. Which player or players do we pin the 'loser' tag onto? And he/they won't be Ozaffwis then. Nope, they'll be reminded what shirt they usually wear. The player and his nation then have that particular sh** hit the fan anytime their brotherly neighbours want a blunt weapon to strke out with. Next tour and the stresses rise. "I hope it ain't our fault again this time, mate...couldn't live with another four years of that"

Aye Fly, I still havent forgiven RoG for the second test last time out

But we won't lose.

TycroesOsprey wrote:

SecretFly wrote:It's all good................................................................................. until is isn't.

It's when it isn't all good that the trouble starts. The Ozaffwis loose their first tour...... who get's the blame? Because blame is one of the most important traditions. Which player or players do we pin the 'loser' tag onto? And he/they won't be Ozaffwis then. Nope, they'll be reminded what shirt they usually wear. The player and his nation then have that particular sh** hit the fan anytime their brotherly neighbours want a blunt weapon to strke out with. Next tour and the stresses rise. "I hope it ain't our fault again this time, mate...couldn't live with another four years of that"

Aye Fly, I still havent forgiven RoG for the second test last time out

Or SCW for the 05 tour

maestegmafia wrote:

TycroesOsprey wrote:

SecretFly wrote:It's all good................................................................................. until is isn't.

It's when it isn't all good that the trouble starts. The Ozaffwis loose their first tour...... who get's the blame? Because blame is one of the most important traditions. Which player or players do we pin the 'loser' tag onto? And he/they won't be Ozaffwis then. Nope, they'll be reminded what shirt they usually wear. The player and his nation then have that particular sh** hit the fan anytime their brotherly neighbours want a blunt weapon to strke out with. Next tour and the stresses rise. "I hope it ain't our fault again this time, mate...couldn't live with another four years of that"

Aye Fly, I still havent forgiven RoG for the second test last time out

Or SCW for the 05 tour

Or Austin Healey for the 01 tour,

TycroesOsprey wrote:

SecretFly wrote:It's all good................................................................................. until is isn't.

It's when it isn't all good that the trouble starts. The Ozaffwis loose their first tour...... who get's the blame? Because blame is one of the most important traditions. Which player or players do we pin the 'loser' tag onto? And he/they won't be Ozaffwis then. Nope, they'll be reminded what shirt they usually wear. The player and his nation then have that particular sh** hit the fan anytime their brotherly neighbours want a blunt weapon to strke out with. Next tour and the stresses rise. "I hope it ain't our fault again this time, mate...couldn't live with another four years of that"

Aye Fly, I still havent forgiven RoG for the second test last time out

Not only him Tycroes. One or two English were on that plate too. It's fun for the feeders but it's bloody cruel on the players who bought into this bull about brotherly oneness They maybe lived it by the happy-go-lucky, havin-a-larf pool and on the field, but their supporters ALWAYS know who they are - they never really suffer a genuine identity crisis. All Hail the Lions.

TycroesOsprey wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

TycroesOsprey wrote:

SecretFly wrote:It's all good................................................................................. until is isn't.

It's when it isn't all good that the trouble starts. The Ozaffwis loose their first tour...... who get's the blame? Because blame is one of the most important traditions. Which player or players do we pin the 'loser' tag onto? And he/they won't be Ozaffwis then. Nope, they'll be reminded what shirt they usually wear. The player and his nation then have that particular sh** hit the fan anytime their brotherly neighbours want a blunt weapon to strke out with. Next tour and the stresses rise. "I hope it ain't our fault again this time, mate...couldn't live with another four years of that"

Aye Fly, I still havent forgiven RoG for the second test last time out

Or SCW for the 05 tour

Or Austin Healey for the 01 tour,

Loved Scott Gibbs dumping Os Du Randt on his backside about ten foot before where he dared try tackle the fastest prop in the world in '97...

Os had an off day, I told you this before.

biltongbek wrote:Os had an off day, I told you this before.

Bet he had a day off after as well mate... ha ha ha

Just shows you, you get tacked back once in 6450 minutes of rugby, having an off day, not looking at the opponent because you are focused on catching a bad pass off balance and it creates a legend.

The legend lives on.


His name is Os du Randt.

Ha ha ha...!

The moment lives on

Lets hope there is a successful Lions tour in 2013. The organisation is wonderful and long may its special memories and legacy live on.

To be fair Ive seen Gibbs do similar to forwards as big in union and league so Os isnt on his own. Although Im assuming your talking about this gents which was Os' tackle not the other way around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqqMou-yFd4

Happy days I was in the SU in Bristol whilst doing my MA watching that game during which one of the spectators went into labour and gave birth so quickly the kid saw the end of the game.

Only took a few posts until we got to hear how good the welsh are, in a topic about the southern hemisphere players

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Only took a few posts until we got to hear how good the welsh are, in a topic about the southern hemisphere players

huh where did that come from?

Rory is being facecious, carry on

lol

TycroesOsprey wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Only took a few posts until we got to hear how good the welsh are, in a topic about the southern hemisphere players

huh where did that come from?

I think we were talking about the Lions not the Welsh...!

Can't see it working. As I understand it, whilst most of us would support a NH side against a SH one - apart from some of the terminally one-eyed, most SH supporters take great joy from the (admittedly rare) occasions when one of the others gets turned over buy NH oppsition.

As somebody said above, I could see it turning into a massive exercise in backbiting and pinning blame.

And, if that's not enough, can you imagine what they'd do to us!

Wicked, I am not so sure about wanting to see other SH teams being turned over.

I certainly don't fall in that category. Besides this thread is more tongue in cheeck than a potential reality anyway.

So was my response biltong

Sorry mate, missed that. Perhaps too early in the morning for me to make assumptions.

biltongbek wrote:I would keep it to SA, Australia and NZ, not sure England colonised Argentina.

CJ, where's your sense of fun.

Woodcock
Bismarck
Franks
Whitelock
Bekker
Pococlk
McCaw
Read
Genia
Carter
Ioane
SBW
AAC
Corey Jane
Curtly Beale

It'll be fun,

No O'Connor? No Nonu?

I have no problem seeing the other SH sides go down to the NH. If we over-demanding Kiwi fans seek perfection from our own team we also seek it in the cosmos!

I must also bring up the claim of the OP that Australia are the form team of world rugby. They won the last ever 3N (the kiss of death for the World Cup) and deservingly so but they didn´t seem to me to be the form team of world rugby in the semi final. See what I mean about over-demanding?!

I´d actually love to see a combined team.
1. Woodcock 2. Du Plessis 3. O Franks
4. Bekker 5. Whitelock
6. Broussow 7. Pocock 8. Burger
9. Genia 10. Carter
11. Ioane 14. Jane 15. Beale
12. Nonu 13. Forie

Bench: McCaw, Roussow, (lock and backrow), Dagg, O'Connor, SBW, Fran Steyn, Samo (as a back replacement)

Who cares if the bench doesn´t have forwards replacements. Just get that back artillery on the field and the goalkicker Steyn and enjoy the show.

The truth is that scratch sides struggle against settled Test teams. The SH combined would be nowhere near as good as their individual parts.

But they´d make for compelling view either way. Much like the Lions.

wickedwasp wrote:Can't see it working. As I understand it, whilst most of us would support a NH side against a SH one - apart from some of the terminally one-eyed, most SH supporters take great joy from the (admittedly rare) occasions when one of the others gets turned over buy NH oppsition.

As somebody said above, I could see it turning into a massive exercise in backbiting and pinning blame.

And, if that's not enough, can you imagine what they'd do to us!

Ah I dont think you will get many supporters for England in the celtic fringe regardless of who they are playing. I supported them in 03 for the final and lived to regret it.

Well he did say apart from some of the terminally one-eyed mate.

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:I have no problem seeing the other SH sides go down to the NH. If we over-demanding Kiwi fans seek perfection from our own team we also seek it in the cosmos!

I must also bring up the claim of the OP that Australia are the form team of world rugby. They won the last ever 3N (the kiss of death for the World Cup) and deservingly so but they didn´t seem to me to be the form team of world rugby in the semi final. See what I mean about over-demanding?!

I´d actually love to see a combined team.
1. Woodcock 2. Du Plessis 3. O Franks
4. Bekker 5. Whitelock
6. Broussow 7. Pocock 8. Burger
9. Genia 10. Carter
11. Ioane 14. Jane 15. Beale
12. Nonu 13. Forie

Bench: McCaw, Roussow, (lock and backrow), Dagg, O'Connor, SBW, Fran Steyn, Samo (as a back replacement)

Who cares if the bench doesn´t have forwards replacements. Just get that back artillery on the field and the goalkicker Steyn and enjoy the show.

Not far from my team Kia. I do think ou are being a little too humble with your players though. But either team will do a great job.

Australia were`nt very convincing for much of the Rwc,or 3N for that matter.
But a Celebration NH v SH series would be fine ,there was one in mid 1960`s
2 matches SH won both.
I won`t pick a team I`m to biased they would nearly all be NZ.

You could try alan, we'll give you player profiles and performances without names an then let you decide.

Well no point in putting Read and McCaw Biltong. I know that combination. I would love to see how well Pocock would fare with some Bok grunt and pace. Sorry for spelling Fourie wrong as well! He´s one of the easier ones!

i think its time they had a lions team- at the end of the day it doesnt help us - the lions only hiders our seperate teams- yet gives them a great work out!!

Wouldn't Dagg stand a chance of displacing Beale from fullback? Not that much between them from what I know and haven't seen Dagg mentioned yet as a starter...

The SH could bring a hell of a team, I think it would be fantastic to have the opportunity to see what it like to recurve a team like the Lions, because it is so fantastic to support them when they are your own.

biltongbek wrote:I would keep it to SA, Australia and NZ, not sure England colonised Argentina.

CJ, where's your sense of fun.

Woodcock
Bismarck
Franks
Whitelock
Bekker
Pococlk
McCaw
Read
Genia
Carter
Ioane
SBW
AAC
Corey Jane
Curtly Beale

It'll be fun,

Think you are being harsh on Stevens,Hartley,Botha,Barritt and Tuilagi!

blimey when will it end- arnt you lot bored of repeating the same tired old posts time and time again!! Its like uncle albert- 'when i was in the war'

And South Africa,Australia and New Zealand teamed up and chased Rommel all over the desert.

England won the WC in 2003

Sa won in 1995, 2007
Oz won in 1991, 1999
NZ won in 1987

































And 2011.

Taffineastbourne wrote:

biltongbek wrote:I would keep it to SA, Australia and NZ, not sure England colonised Argentina.

CJ, where's your sense of fun.

Woodcock
Bismarck
Franks
Whitelock
Bekker
Pococlk
McCaw
Read
Genia
Carter
Ioane
SBW
AAC
Corey Jane
Curtly Beale

It'll be fun,

Think you are being harsh on Stevens,Hartley,Botha,Barritt and Tuilagi!

Sadly the selection policy is for players playing in the super XV.