Who has the best chance of beating Wales in the 2013 6N?

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England did well to keep the score close at Twickenham, but will struggle in Cardiff next year.
3 in a row for Wales v Ireland. Never thought I would see the day. Traditionally Ireland do well in Cardiff, but those days are over.
France will probably be the toughest opponent next year for Wales when they play in Paris.

viewtothegym wrote:Sorry leinsterbaby did you say something?
I stopped reading when it said 'built on sand'
Good old dickie said the same back in 2005 and 3 grandslams later and a world cup semi.
Please do refresh me on what Ireland has done in the last 70+yrs?
One slam

You won't be laughing when welsh regions begin to fall apart completely. Up until now they have been reasonably competitive. The tide seems to be turning wouldn't you agree. Surely this will affect the national team?

And the Welsh away last season....

Just ignore viewtothegym. I don't think he represents Welsh fans on here. Most seem pleased with progress so far but know they have to kick on, especially against the SH sides.

No point getting into an argument with him.

Wales record away against Scotland

Wins 41%

Losses 54%

Acid test indeed!

Ozzy3213 wrote:What a pointless article.

Then get rid of it Ozzy.

HERSH wrote:Then get rid of it Ozzy.

+1. Pointless article for a few pugnacious posters.

viewtothegym wrote:2013 wales will be beyond any NH team in every single aspect of the game WUMMING so I can't see any six nations team finishing with in supporter providing more than ten points of Wales lines of response.

France-ruderless, but have the ability to steer to a World Cup Final, better than Wales did
England -seriously overhyped underhyped - and developing into a good team - another year then they could be quite a dangerous team
Ireland-just plain awful that they seem to never get the rub of the ref against you, but likely that will change and wales will need to use the right ball next time
Scotland-weak in mind and in skill - yet scored more tries than Wales when down to 13 men this year (Even if the ref again helped Wales by disallowing one)
Italy- who cares how many they put past you - well actually most posters do now
Wales - not nearly as good as you think, got very lucky with wins and could easily be beaten by 3 teams next year

There fixed you

PS For normal Wales posters this is just a response to this post and not a real indication :-)

Like that Risky- complimenting all nations where they deserve it. There are still some proper rugby fans out there with some intellect.

bluestonevedder wrote:

Knackeredknees wrote:

viewtothegym wrote:2013 wales will be beyond any NH team in every single aspect of the game so I can't see any six nations team finishing with in ten points of Wales.

France-ruderless
England -seriously overhyped
Ireland-just plain awful
Scotland-weak in mind and in skill
Italy- who cares

WOW and the Welsh call us arrogant

It's absolute double standards Knackeredknees

No- it's just ONE embarrassing (from a Welsh point of view) WUM who is getting way too much attention. Ignore him and hopefully he willgo away

irfon17 wrote:

bluestonevedder wrote:

Knackeredknees wrote:

viewtothegym wrote:2013 wales will be beyond any NH team in every single aspect of the game so I can't see any six nations team finishing with in ten points of Wales.

France-ruderless
England -seriously overhyped
Ireland-just plain awful
Scotland-weak in mind and in skill
Italy- who cares

WOW and the Welsh call us arrogant

It's absolute double standards Knackeredknees

No- it's just ONE embarrassing (from a Welsh point of view) WUM who is getting way too much attention. Ignore him and hopefully he willgo away

+1

View never has a valid point or manages to bring anything to a discussion other than brainless comments (often misspelt)

Sgt_Pooly wrote:

irfon17 wrote:

bluestonevedder wrote:

Knackeredknees wrote:

viewtothegym wrote:2013 wales will be beyond any NH team in every single aspect of the game so I can't see any six nations team finishing with in ten points of Wales.

France-ruderless
England -seriously overhyped
Ireland-just plain awful
Scotland-weak in mind and in skill
Italy- who cares

WOW and the Welsh call us arrogant

It's absolute double standards Knackeredknees

No- it's just ONE embarrassing (from a Welsh point of view) WUM who is getting way too much attention. Ignore him and hopefully he willgo away

+1

View never has a valid point or manages to bring anything to a discussion other than brainless comments (often misspelt)

Is View actually Gavin Henson?

I'm going to be controversial and put it right out there now. France are rubbish and will finish 4/5th next 6 nations. You heard it here first people! Everyone bigs them up every time and for the last couple of seasons they have stunk up the competition. I'm also fairly certain that they will have a brilliant summer tour and autumn internationals and they will be favouriites for the next 6 nations but they will fail, again. I think they are an exceptional KNOCK OUT rugby country. At one off games they are second to none but in a competition like the 6 nations they just don't have the consistency.
There i've said it, tear it apart by all means, it's just my opinion!

Careful carpe you will get shot down with personal abuse if you don't agree with the masses on 606,
They get ugly when you lay down cold hard facts.

Carpe Diem wrote:I'm going to be controversial and put it right out there now. France are rubbish and will finish 4/5th next 6 nations. You heard it here first people! Everyone bigs them up every time and for the last couple of seasons they have stunk up the competition. I'm also fairly certain that they will have a brilliant summer tour and autumn internationals and they will be favouriites for the next 6 nations but they will fail, again. I think they are an exceptional KNOCK OUT rugby country. At one off games they are second to none but in a competition like the 6 nations they just don't have the consistency.
There i've said it, tear it apart by all means, it's just my opinion!

They have been the most consistent team in the history of the six nations winning most games. Can't win every year. Hard to please some people.

That's why i said in the last couple of seasons. They just seem to have lost it over the last couple of years. They do just enough in knock out comps and one offs. Like i say just my opinion. Nothing personal.

I agree to an extent Carpe. They aren't the France we all know and enjoy watching. I think they're in a bit of a 'Lievermont-Hangover' period, and expect them to take a while to find their feet again.

Something that may be starting to have an effect on their international scene is the influx of foreign talent into the Top 14...something i've thought for a while.

Wales should really given that Italy have gotten better results in Rome v Wales than any other team in the 6 nations.

Except Scotland obviously.

Les blues is just too much for the Welsh. Only England can win there. Ireland could also mount a challenge with Wales holding off in that match and expecting an easy win, only for SOB to run over them and score multiple tries.

nobbled wrote:

Sgt_Pooly wrote:

irfon17 wrote:

bluestonevedder wrote:

Knackeredknees wrote:

viewtothegym wrote:2013 wales will be beyond any NH team in every single aspect of the game so I can't see any six nations team finishing with in ten points of Wales.

France-ruderless
England -seriously overhyped
Ireland-just plain awful
Scotland-weak in mind and in skill
Italy- who cares

WOW and the Welsh call us arrogant

It's absolute double standards Knackeredknees

No- it's just ONE embarrassing (from a Welsh point of view) WUM who is getting way too much attention. Ignore him and hopefully he willgo away

+1

View never has a valid point or manages to bring anything to a discussion other than brainless comments (often misspelt)

Is View actually Gavin Henson?

Come on, View may be a raving crackhead but he isnt that bad. When he isnt going cold turkey, he can be quite amusing. Keep it up View.