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Post by thebluesmancometh Wed 04 Apr 2012, 10:29 am

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At this stage of Wales development I would take a low risk development team down to Aus. For me going down all guns blazing with our best players and showing our lions hand is just too risky. Especially if we don't manage a series win.

This is a nothing tour and there is not a lot this welsh team can accomplish post world cup year. If we managed a win it's because theyre restructuring, if we don't it'd be hillarious for them!

I'd take a lot of first teamers but leave key players at home, if nothing else to get some depth in those positions.

I would leave the likes of...

Adam Jones
Matthew Rees
Gethin Jenkins
Warburton
Falatau
Phillips

We know what these players give us, but there are question marks of the players behind them. I want to see Gill, Mitchell, Owens, Tipuric, maybe Delve a chance.

My 30 man squad would look like this...

Gill
Owens
Mitchell
Charteris
Evans
Shinglar
Tipuric
Delve
Williams
Preistland
Cuthbert
JD2
Williams
North
Byrne

That'd be my first 15, then...

Paul James
Bennet
AWJ
Ryan Jones (C)
Webb
Hook
Williams

Bench. Then...

Andrews
Lloyd Burns
Turnbull
Martin Roberts
Tovey
Ashley Beck
Robinson
Dixon


Granted there are a few very young tour virgins who are just there for a bit of experience. And I am missing a few key players as previously stated but I have a reason...

No 1/2p. Preistland has to learn to kick regularly at goal otherwise we'll always have a problem area here.

Gill and Owens have done well when given the chance, and we need top quality replacements for Jenkins and Rees beyond Bennet and Paul James!

WE NEED A TIGHTHEAD!!!

I've been itching to see if Charteris and Evans will work, we need bulk up fron with my pack selected.

Again Shinglar and Tipuric have shown promise, let's see what they can do against a very good back row.

Delve is playing well down under. For me he could be a late bolter for the lions based on where he playes and his form.

Phillips is a useless lump but a weapon none the less, he offers nothing other than what we all know, keep him away and give Preistland some quick quality ball.

Prei9stland has to keep playing at present, but Biggar is playing well and I think Tovey will be the boy to push both next year.

Centres pick themselves.

Byrne has done little wrong in France and is playing a totally different style, being the boom left boot at the back. It is very effective and I want to see that employed for Wales.

Wings, well you know.

I understand people want a win, and think Wales need to push on by beating Aus but I think it's too good an opportunity to allow fringe players gametime, which unless we get injuries they won't in the autumn or next 6N. It is lions year, aand everyones playing for a place.

There are a ew players I'm not 100% about and can be convinced to change evry one with good or consistent argument, I have no bias so as I am convinced to I will change the squad.

GO

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Post by gowales Thu 05 Apr 2012, 12:09 pm

Of course Williams will he's been apart of the squad before. Walker is crap and hasn't been.

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Post by wales606 Thu 05 Apr 2012, 12:10 pm

Comfort wrote:I could see Liam Williams touring ahead of Eli Walker.
Fenby too has been playing well and scoring tries.

and Seretfly, I think thats just something thats been mentioned on here, I have no doubt Gatland will take his strongest squad with the aim to win the series!

Well, yes, Liam Williams will tour ahead of Eli Walker

Im very worried now...Eli Walker is being mentioned in the same vicinity as the Wales squad.
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Post by gowales Thu 05 Apr 2012, 12:12 pm

I know what you mean 606... it's scary Shocked

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Post by wales606 Thu 05 Apr 2012, 12:13 pm

Yikes

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Post by Morgannwg Thu 05 Apr 2012, 12:14 pm

I am equally worried that Andy Fenby's name has been mentioned too. The Scarlets very own Richard Fussell!
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Post by Comfort Thu 05 Apr 2012, 12:17 pm

who else is there realistically after North/Cuthbert/Halfpenny/Harry Robinson/Liam Williams/Aled Brew Whistle

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Post by gowales Thu 05 Apr 2012, 12:19 pm

That doesn't mean we should put average players in Comfort. I'd rather play Scott Williams or JD on the wing instead of him! or bring in another fullback and play Halfpenny on the wing

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Post by Comfort Thu 05 Apr 2012, 12:25 pm

im only pulling your chain go, theres 2 players for each back 3 position in just that list.

Dirksen to be qualified within the next year, hopefully Stoaddart returns and then Im sure we could coax back Shane if things got that bad! There's always Byrne too.

Alternatively, Roberts was a wing/FB originally and Scott Williams has covered on the wing a few times. Hell, I think even Phillips would do alright there!

I dont think the back 3 is somewhere we need to worry about.

10 is our biggest weakspot.

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Post by gowales Thu 05 Apr 2012, 12:31 pm

Fair enough Comfort, it's just that from watching Walker's performances for the O's i can't see anything special about him.

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Post by wales606 Thu 05 Apr 2012, 12:37 pm

Comfort wrote:who else is there realistically after North/Cuthbert/Halfpenny/Harry Robinson/Liam Williams/Aled Brew Whistle

Lee Byrne
Morgan Stoddart
Barry Davies
Tom Pydie
Will Harries
Adam Hughes (should be a centre though)
Dirksen (next year)
Tom James
Richard Mustoe
Chris Czekaj
Owen Williams
Anyone from the Scarlets academy (they tend to be good)
Even Fussell

^at least all of them can catch a ball and recycle it after contact.
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Post by Comfort Thu 05 Apr 2012, 12:56 pm

there is a lot of noise coming out about him, Dirksen seems way ahead of him though....

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Post by bedfordwelsh Thu 05 Apr 2012, 8:24 pm

We need to take and play our strongest team possible, lets go there and really see where we are and try get a much needed overseas win against the SH.
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