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Post by maestegmafia Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:10 am

WALES: Liam Williams; Harry Robinson, Andrew Bishop, Ashley Beck, Aled Brew; James Hook, Rhys Webb; Paul James, Richard Hibbard, Rhodri Jones, Alun Wyn Jones (Captain), Luke Charteris, Josh Turnbull, Justin Tipuric, Aaron Shingler

REPLACEMENTS: Ken Owens, Rhys Gill, Ian Evans, Gareth Delve, Lloyd Williams, Rhys Priestland, Alex Cuthbert



Rob Howley says

"We are a game down, but we still have all to play for in this series and Tuesday night is the perfect opportunity for this squad of players to move on," said Wales head coach Rob Howley.

"We have one or two bumps and bruises and we are expecting players to 'back-up' after playing a tough Test match and go out there 72hrs later and play for their country.

"But that is exactly what touring is all about. It will be a test of character for the likes of Luke (Charteris), James (Hook) and Alun Wyn (Jones) who all made significant contributions on Saturday."

http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/news/22599.php



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Post by maestegmafia Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:12 am

Delve, who won the last of his 11 international caps in March 2010, became the first non-native to captain an Australian Super Rugby side last year and was already in the southern hemisphere when he got the call to replace the injured Toby Faletau late last night).

Faletau will play no further part in the series after breaking a bone in his hand and is set to fly home for his injury to be reviewed in the next few days.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:26 am

Personally I would have started Rees, will be good to see Williams go at XV in case North doesn't recover.
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Post by maestegmafia Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:33 am

Yes.. Though we have plenty of back three cover in the touring party.

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Post by TycroesOsprey Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:41 am

Delve could be an inspired choice. Sort of explains why Faletau was a shadow of himself yesterday. Hook really has an oppurtunity to take RP's shirt.

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Post by Cymroglan Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:44 am

Lot's have wanted Delve in the Welsh squad so now is his chance to prove them right.

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Post by yappysnap Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:44 am

Is Biggar not in the squad?

I hope Delve goes well, he's always looked pretty impressive for his club teams but does not seem to ever stand out like Jones, Warbertun etc do at times. Must do something right though as he's nearly always club captain where ever he goes.

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Post by Guest Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:22 am

Actually looks like a pretty decent 2nd string squad again, I hope a few players lay down their mark.

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Post by Morgannwg Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:21 pm

Seeing as James the other LH is always on the bench covering the TH, would it not have made more sense for him to start in the 3 jersey? I also would have probably opted to start Turnbull at 8, that way we would have plenty of much needed pace at 6 and 7.
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Post by flyhalffactory Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:15 pm

Morgannwg wrote:Seeing as James the other LH is always on the bench covering the TH, would it not have made more sense for him to start in the 3 jersey? I also would have probably opted to start Turnbull at 8, that way we would have plenty of much needed pace at 6 and 7.

Makes alot of sense
James should have started the game and young Jones could have replaced him at halftime.

Shingler at blindside is ideal, much quicker than Lydiate and better at the offload, however defensively worse, and doesnt make the same hits as him. Turnbull whilst having a great season at 6 a few seasons ago playing at 8 would have given a better balance to the pack
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Post by Guest Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:22 pm

I think its odd seeing Shingler at 8, has he ever played there? His first game at openside was for Wales. I'd probably have Turnbull at 8 and Shingler at 6.

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Post by Knowsit17 Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:28 pm

Can't understand the logic of putting Shingler at 8 when you've got Jones and Delve to choose from. If we're not careful he could become the James Hook of the forwards, messed around too much without being allowed to settle into one role.

Besides that I can't complain.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:33 pm

Yeah I would have had them two the other way around, maybe they will swap or maybe its just to see if he can do job there knowing Delve is on the bench.

I would have started Gill and James on the T/Head instead of Jones
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Post by Guest Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:48 pm

Not forgetting of course that Delve covers 6 pretty well.

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Post by Morgannwg Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:59 pm

It appears our coaching staff are doing a 'mad marc'. How many capped internationals do we have now? It's no good have a lot of players, we need the best players playing the positions they are best suited to. We are still lacking options at 3, 8 and 10 in my opinion.
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Post by emack2 Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:04 pm

IF you talk the talk,you have to walk the walk at Home or in bad conditions the NH can nick a win.Away that`s hard Yacca for the SH sides too,upsets happen yes BUT not that many.

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Post by gowales Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:46 pm

Strange seeing Shingler at 8, he played there for a bit against the Baa-Baas when we had Martyn and Tipuric on but i don't think he's physical enough to have a future there, he's a bit like our Tom Croft.

I'd like Tipuric to play the first 40-50 mins, then benched so he can rest for the test match. Bring on Delve and put Shingler to 6 and Turnbull 7.

The back three will be tested a lot, the Brumbies play a very pragmatic game and their 9 Nic White is an excellent box kicker. I'm worried about Liam, Harry and Aled.

Good to see Hibbard start, i'd like to see him on the bench for the test.


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Post by gowales Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:47 pm

Morgannwg wrote:It appears our coaching staff are doing a 'mad marc'. How many capped internationals do we have now? It's no good have a lot of players, we need the best players playing the positions they are best suited to. We are still lacking options at 3, 8 and 10 in my opinion.

Don't forget 15

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Post by wales606 Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:44 am

I just saw the suggestion of Hook at 8 and I fully agree.

I will now start the Hook to 8 campaign - I expect it to be in the WM tommorow. After all, he is too talented not to be in the forward pack against Australia.
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Post by Ospreydragon Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:02 am

This match appears not to be televised anywhere in UK -- not on BBC/S4C or Sky Sports.

Where can the live match be viewed?

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Post by Pal Joey Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:02 am

Miserable weather in Sydney for the last 48 hours - over 5" of rain.
Canberra is less than 300km away but it appears it will be fine on Tuesday evening. 1-14 deg. C

http://weather.smh.com.au/local.jsp?lt=aploc&lc=3928&d=1

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Post by Biltong Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:14 am

wales606 wrote:I just saw the suggestion of Hook at 8 and I fully agree.

I will now start the Hook to 8 campaign - I expect it to be in the WM tommorow. After all, he is too talented not to be in the forward pack against Australia.
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Post by Morgannwg Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:04 pm

If the match is on really early then it's going to be difficult to get a stream. The Australians have been boosted with the news of Beale possibly making the bench and Jake White's assistance for the 2nd test; that and they know the series is over if they win.
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:18 pm

Am suprised and worried by Howley putting R Jones at TH, he is a LH who hasn't played TH for the Scarlets, it would have made a lot more sense to put James at TH and either Gill or Jones at LH (depending on if you wanted to give Jones another chance to experience this level of rugby). I really worry that the Welsh management are going to mess Rhodri's development up by trying to force him to be a TH, and instead creating a poor TH and LH instead of leaving him as a very promising LH.


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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:23 pm

Priest,

I thoguht that but wasn't sure how much game time R Jones has had there, I know he played against the Baa Baas but wasn't sure.

In that case I agree with you I would have put James there cos at least he has played there on many occasions and give Gill the L/Head shirt
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Post by Morgannwg Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:25 pm

You never know, we might see the Scarlets start playing Rhodri at TH. You have another promising LH coming through the ranks btw (Rob Evans). I also hope you give Dan Thomas some game time next season, along with the Williams brothers.
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:31 pm

Morgannwg wrote:You never know, we might see the Scarlets start playing Rhodri at TH. You have another promising LH coming through the ranks btw (Rob Evans). I also hope you give Dan Thomas some game time next season, along with the Williams brothers.

We've already decided to leave R Jones at LH as that is where he's best and wants to stay - we did toy with the idea briefly during this last season apparently - but decided (rightly IMO) to allow him to develop properly at LH.

As such we've resigned Manu and look to be signing another TH - maybe Campbell Johnson, so can't imagine R Jones will get any/much gametime at TH.

Also I'd imagine that S Lee and R Evans might get some gametime this season with the Scarlets, but probably only in the LV Cup.

A few posters on the Scarlet Fever board think that D Thomas will feature quite a bit this season - I'd don't know but He looks very good and we could really do with an out and out 7.

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:32 pm

I also expected Rees to be on the bench/in the team instead of Owens as I reckon Rees needs the gametime more

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Post by Comfort Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:41 pm

Gotta agree im not sure on the Rh.Jones at TH experiment Wales are going with at the moment....

I would have thought giving Gill a shot at the LH shirt and putting James at TH would have been the better option but aaaaye, what do i know!

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Post by Ospreydragon Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:52 pm

Morgannwg, there are various hits when you google "Wales Brumbies live stream" -- can anyone recommend a stream site?

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:55 pm

Just a reminder folks, please be circumspect when talking publicly about how you watch matches - other sites hosted by Forumotion have been shut down in the past by the copyright police.

However, us Admins/Mods are unable to monitor your PMs. Whistle

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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:07 pm

nudge nudge wink wink hey kiwi lol Hug
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Post by Comfort Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:08 pm

OD - pm.

gotta say, I'm happy to see Shingler getting a game, even at 8!

we can see what Webb's got in welsh colours, albeit in a midweek game against a club-side, for me he's the on-form SH in wales.

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Post by Morgannwg Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:12 pm

KRD what time is the game on in UK time?
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Post by TycroesOsprey Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:24 pm

can someone pm me with a link?

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:25 pm

Me too - as long as it's 'legal' Very Happy Whistle

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me too oops lol
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Post by Ospreydragon Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:36 pm

Comfort, many thanks for the pm.

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Post by Full Credit Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:42 pm

Guys, from what I can gather I don't think anyone's going to be covering (even filming) this match. It's not being covered by any of the free to air channels and Fox Sports aren't even doing it. People on Aussie websites are talking about only listening to it on the radio or live updates online. I hope I'm wrong.

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Post by wales606 Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:58 pm

Me too, incase its not on any off my *censored for Kiwireddevil*
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Post by Toffnana Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:04 pm

Please can someone PM me the link too? Can't believe not being televised on one of standard channels.

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Post by Morgannwg Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:06 pm

TycroesOsprey wrote:can someone pm me with a link?

Plus one.
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:07 pm

Morgannwg wrote:
TycroesOsprey wrote:can someone pm me with a link?

Plus one.

Plus two

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Post by Comfort Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:13 pm

guys, ill pm you all, theres enough comfort to go around! heart

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Post by Morgannwg Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:19 pm

Thanks Comfort Hug.
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Post by welshy6 Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:14 pm

damn i'm in school ='(

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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:26 pm

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Post by wales606 Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:51 pm

What about me?

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Post by Cocokav Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:05 pm

I'd appreciate a PM too

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Post by Bazzer79 Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:09 pm

Anyone know if these matches are being shown on the goggle box? They're not listed on sky, maybe there's a feed on tinternet somewhere?

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