Some risky 2012 predictions

What fight predictions are you willing to stick your neck out on this year? Lot's of good fights to come. Who has some risky predictions? I am willing to stick my neck out on a couple that arn't fancied.

1. Carl Froch beats Lucian Bute. If it happens people will say it is not that big a deal, but very few fancy Froch.
2. Maywether will KO Cotto. Not heard too many predict that
3. Hopkins will be stopped by Dawson. Nobody has said this is going to happen but i think Dawdon has a very good chance if he ups the workrate sufficiently.
4. Alvarez to KO Mosely

There's 3 from me. Now for yours.

Mayweather will beat Cotto on points...........

Khan will beat Petersen by early stoppage......

Bradley will be exposed as the ordinary fighter he is...

Vlad and Vit will stay undefeated..

Fury will remain garbage........

Jordan will still be everywhere........

One direction will rank above The Beatles in the alltime list of some magazine...

Cowell will come out the closet and visit us in the Oyster....

Obama will get another term.....

Labour wil change it's leader..

I'll become even more of a beefster...

My Father-in-law will become even more of a chain around my neck..

How's that..

Haha, very good...


Cowell will come out the closet and visit us in the Oyster....

Is he still hiding?

GB will win Two Boxing Golds at the Olympics. Selby and Campbell.

Ireland to Win 1 via Joe Ward.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Mayweather will beat Cotto on points...........

Khan will beat Petersen by early stoppage......

Bradley will be exposed as the ordinary fighter he is...

Vlad and Vit will stay undefeated..

Fury will remain garbage........

Jordan will still be everywhere........

One direction will rank above The Beatles in the alltime list of some magazine...

Cowell will come out the closet and visit us in the Oyster....

Obama will get another term.....

Labour wil change it's leader..

I'll become even more of a beefster...

My Father-in-law will become even more of a chain around my neck..
How's that..

Maybe hes trying to bond by partaking in the rodeo

Mayweather will NOT KO Cotto.

Cotto beats Floyd, or is robbed, there I've said it!!!!

Disagree with all of yours to be honest but then you did say risky predictions.

Bradley has a good chance of beating Manny. Pacquaio appears to have slowed down enough in his last few fights for me to give Tim a decent shout. Hes a real all rounder, has a great work ethic and think he he can break Manny down on the inside where he doesn't want to be. Also has a good chin and is durable, which no doubt he'll need to be at times but just have a sneaky feeling he's being a bit under rated and is catching Manny at the right time.

paperbag_puncher wrote:Hes a real all rounder, has a great work ethic

Sorry, disagree with you there mate, which is odd as usually I don't find myself in that position.

Feel that Bradley is one of the most boring and ungifted fighters I've seen in recent years. He doesn't excite because he has no real outside ability. He's a crude inside fighter - his jab has nothing behind it, all he does is use it to obscure their vision and come in with a clubbing right hook. I've never seen him jab jab straight from range, he's always running forward.

I'm surprised Alexander had trouble with him, but I'm firmly of the opinion that Alexander just had an off night.

Ricky Burns will still be LW champion by the end of the year.

Gary Buckland will fight for/or be lined up for a World title.... which he will win.

Paul McCloskey to win the vacated (by Khan) WBA title at LWW

Sure I will think of more later.

JabMachineMK2 wrote:

paperbag_puncher wrote:Hes a real all rounder, has a great work ethic

Sorry, disagree with you there mate, which is odd as usually I don't find myself in that position.

Feel that Bradley is one of the most boring and ungifted fighters I've seen in recent years. He doesn't excite because he has no real outside ability. He's a crude inside fighter - his jab has nothing behind it, all he does is use it to obscure their vision and come in with a clubbing right hook. I've never seen him jab jab straight from range, he's always running forward.

I'm surprised Alexander had trouble with him, but I'm firmly of the opinion that Alexander just had an off night.

Think you're being overly harsh on Bradley. As I said he's a good all rounder. As in I think hes fairly good at all aspects of the game but a master of none. Where he excels is in devising a game plan and sticking to it. That's why I think Alexander would never beat him. Tim knew he probably wouldn't outbox him and roughed him and tried to turn it into a war. He didn't use these same tactics against Witter say. This along with his mentality and belief makes him a hard night's work for most, including this version of Manny.

I still think he was made for Manny, if he runs forward with that slight jab he will be hit and hit hard from 2/3 good hard straights from Pacquiao, his overhand right and his right hook won't hit its target because Pacquiao won't be there to be hit, his legs may be slower, but he does throw from angles and I'm yet to see anything in Bradleys defense to deal with someone like Pacquaio.

He showed some good outside boxing in his fight with Peterson (a win which seems even more impressive now). Recently he has resorted to bulling his way to victory but if he brings some of his boxing skills to the fight he might give an aging Pac some problems.

I remember a similar article to this being run on the Ring Mag website at the beginning of the year. The writer predicted that this year a big name in the sport would be found to be using illegal PEDs, if this were to happen who would you put your money on it being?

paperbag_puncher wrote:Disagree with all of yours to be honest but then you did say risky predictions.

Bradley has a good chance of beating Manny. Pacquaio appears to have slowed down enough in his last few fights for me to give Tim a decent shout. Hes a real all rounder, has a great work ethic and think he he can break Manny down on the inside where he doesn't want to be. Also has a good chin and is durable, which no doubt he'll need to be at times but just have a sneaky feeling he's being a bit under rated and is catching Manny at the right time.

RISKY PREDICTIONS!!!

Jesus

Nice prediction on Bradley - I disagree but...

Bradley gets stopped in the second half, nowhere near good enough and never will, made for Pac, walks in straight lines and tries to bully his opponents. I think theres a decent theory on if youre able to get on the inside of Pac you can bully him and walk him backwards, poor Bradley doesnt have the skill to do that.

1.) manny loses by the turn of the year

2.) Dawson knocks out Bhop

3.) mayweather stops cotto

4.) Chavez agrees to fight Martinez and gets knocked out

5.) Canelo stops Mosley

6.) Peterson beats khan SD

7.) brook gets a title shot

8.) kevin Mitchell knocks out burns to win a world title

9.) Bute hits the floor en route to a UD over froch

10.) Chavez Jr tests positive for PED's after the Martinez fight

11.) broner wins a second weight title at lightweight

12.) Ortiz will beat berto by KO

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:1.) manny loses by the turn of the year

2.) Dawson knocks out Bhop

3.) mayweather stops cotto

4.) Chavez agrees to fight Martinez and gets knocked out

5.) Canelo stops Mosley

6.) Peterson beats khan SD

7.) brook gets a title shot

8.) kevin Mitchell knocks out burns to win a world title

9.) Bute hits the floor en route to a UD over froch

10.) Chavez Jr tests positive for PED's after the Martinez fight

11.) broner wins a second weight title at lightweight

12.) Ortiz will beat berto by KO

I like all of these mate, really good predictions and some money to be made at bookies too.

I got money on Alvarez KO
Mayweather KO
and Dawson KO

Just hoping one comes off ha

Fingers crossed at 4 and 10 WHU

Anyway lads I'm off home =]

Have good un Alex

AlexHuckerby wrote:Bradley gets stopped in the second half, nowhere near good enough and never will, made for Pac, walks in straight lines and tries to bully his opponents. I think theres a decent theory on if youre able to get on the inside of Pac you can bully him and walk him backwards, poor Bradley doesnt have the skill to do that.

Rubbish. There aren't many boxers in and around Bradley's weight division that are better at roughing people up and getting on the inside. What might get him stopped is he'll come to win and not just to survive like Clottey, Marg or Mosley not his lack of a decent inside game.

paperbag_puncher wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Bradley gets stopped in the second half, nowhere near good enough and never will, made for Pac, walks in straight lines and tries to bully his opponents. I think theres a decent theory on if youre able to get on the inside of Pac you can bully him and walk him backwards, poor Bradley doesnt have the skill to do that.

Rubbish. There aren't many boxers in and around Bradley's weight division that are better at roughing people up and getting on the inside. What might get him stopped is he'll come to win and not just to survive like Clottey, Marg or Mosley not his lack of a decent inside game.

I agree. Hes very underrated. There are not many in the game in the moment that can get close to you or on the inside better than Bradley can. Quite often with the fighters that are very good at beating the jab and getting in close are accused of headbutts alot such as the likes of Ward, Hopkins, Holyfield back in the day. Bradley is lie this also. If you compare how a genuinely average bully fighter like Maidana fared against someone like Alexander who uses a jab, and then look at how Bradley beat him up it highlights the difference.

BRADLEY WILL BEAT PACQUIAO!! (or another robbery)

I predict Azania won't be here by 2013.........

I predict Rowley's Mrs will get more predictions right than he will!!

I predict Windy's pink dress will sell in auction for over 10,000 dollars..

I predict Dave668 (he'll split the difference)

I predict we'll find life on Mars......and a martian will be number 1 p4p by 2025!!!!

I predict Lescargo will be a mod by 2013...

I also predict Azania will admit he is wrong on May 33rd

Sugar Floyd Louis wrote:BRADLEY WILL BEAT PACQUIAO!! (or another robbery)

Quite possibly

Sugar Floyd Louis wrote:I also predict Azania will admit he is wrong on May 33rd

Hold on these are 2012 predictions,no one said any thing about miracles.

1. Khan to KO Peterson
2. Martinez to drop a decision.
3. Marquez to retire.
4. Degale to get title shot.
5. The big one, Manny and Mayweather sign for a date in Las Vegas.

is number 5. still a big fight...kidding, but Manny v May would be ay all day long now

Broner is cleverly matched to the extent where he is in most p4p top 10's by the end of the year

Andre Ward moves up to light heavy

Bute KO's Froch

Golovkin remains avoided

Chavez beats Martinez

Macklin KO's Barker

Rigondeaux fails to get his fight with Donaire

Groves KO's DeGale for the WBO title

Mayweather Pac does not happen in Nov

Bradley outworks Pacquaio, marking the end of an era.

Price knocks Fury out early.

Brook beats the Malignaggi/Senchenko winner.

Vitali gets beaten.

Pac KOs Bradley rather sensationally and everyone is up Mannys bumhole again, including me.

Rios and Marquez fights but Rios manages to knock him out from behind on the cards.

Chavez beats Martinez, that is a brave one... First for Chavez to actually fight Martinez and then to actually land a decent punch as well before landing flat on his back.

Pacquiao easily beating Bradley by KO.
Khan beating Peterson by KO.
Mayweather winning by KO against Cotto =(.

Alvarez outclasses and destroys Mosley, sending him into retirement.
Froch KOs Bute in round 8, whilst miles behind on points.
Mayweather-Cotto is fight of the year. Floyd wins on points after being floored.
Vitali retires.
Edison Miranda steps in at late notice against Chad Dawson and KOs him heavily. (OK, so that's a bit unlikely...)
Tyson Fury has a real struggle against Rogan.

Mayweather to do a Gatti-style number on Cotto by smashing his face to a pulp before gaining a late stoppage.

Bradley will stop Pac imo. I think all the stuff Pac gets up to outside of the ring has started to take it's toll. His last few performances haven't been up to much and he has a lot going on outside the ring.

I would back Dawson to stop Hopkins. The guy is 47 if Dawson doesn't win and in style he should chuck it.

Alvarez topping or demolishing Mosley is hardly a risky prediction. If Mosley takes him the distance then Alvarez needs to have a word with himself Mosley is shot.

Mayweather gets out of prison then schools Martinez in November/December.

So should Pavlik and Pascal chuck in as well then?

Personally think Pacquiao is going to wipe Bradley out in double quick time, he hasn't to me proven to have the skill of Marquez or the durability of Mosley, Clottey or Margarito. Pacquiao will land hard and will land frequently, easy victory.

Hopkins wasn't 47 when he beat them and Pavlik may well have been drunk. Pascal is pretty average the fact he lost to Froch proves that. Dawson has all the tools but he always has he just fails to turn up and if he fails this time then he should chuck it.

Pacquiao on form no doubt wipes the floor with Bradley but I think he's on the slide. He has so much going on outside the ring it must be a distraction.

He was still an old man when he beat them both but regardless of age Hopkins is still an elite level fighter who would give anyone in the division a stern test, bit harsh to suggest Dawson should give up if he loses. Pascal must be average if he lost to such an awful fighter like Froch but beat Dawson quite comfortably, the likes of Taylor, Dirrell and Abraham must be average too.

Like I said the tools are there with Dawson he just doesn't turn up at times losing to the average Pascal proves that. Hopkins is a clever fighter no doubt but Dawson is considerably younger and fresher. My point is if Dawson isn't going to start using the talent he has he may as well chuck it.

Taylor was boxing Froch's ears off and ran out of gas. If that fight was a year earlier Taylor wins comfortably. Abraham is a good 160lbs fighter but nothing more than Euro level at 168lbs the super 6 proved that. Dirrell should have got the decision over Froch so that wasn't a great example.

Think you are being massively disrespectful to a lot of fighters there. Taylor always had trouble with his stamina and don't think he lost anything in the year prior to that, while losing to Ward and Froch doesn't make a fighter euro level, suppose Froch is euro level too.

Abraham has never looked a force at 168lbs apart from against Taylor who was finished. Froch is World class but nowhere near as good as the hype suggests. A level below Ward and Bute imo.

If Kessler doesn't get injured then Froch doesn't make the final of the super 6 imo.

Who was I being disrespectful to?

Calling Pascal average for losing to Froch is disrespectful to both of them, as for not being near Butes level that is fairly ludicrous when you compare their level of opposition.

It's not just for losing to Froch I called pascal average I just think he is pretty average. Losing to a guy like Froch just backs it up.

Bute and Froch have a common opponent and they faced him in a close time frame so it's a good yard stick. Bute schooled him Froch struggled a fair bit and if Johnson was anywhere near close to still being good he would have sparked Froch out the amount of time he caught him with that big right hook.

Who are these great fighters Froch beat as far as I can see he came up short in a close fight with Kessler and got put right in his place by Ward. I thoroughly expect Bute to do the same.

Pascal- Just not that good
Taylor- Past it
Abraham- Not a super middleweight
Dirrell- Froch got a home town decision
Johnson- If he was 5 years younger Froch would have left on a stretcher

paperbag_puncher wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Bradley gets stopped in the second half, nowhere near good enough and never will, made for Pac, walks in straight lines and tries to bully his opponents. I think theres a decent theory on if youre able to get on the inside of Pac you can bully him and walk him backwards, poor Bradley doesnt have the skill to do that.

Rubbish. There aren't many boxers in and around Bradley's weight division that are better at roughing people up and getting on the inside. What might get him stopped is he'll come to win and not just to survive like Clottey, Marg or Mosley not his lack of a decent inside game.

rubbish is your comment about marg coming to survive. wasnt clottey and mosley enough to make your point, so you had to beef it up a bit

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:It's not just for losing to Froch I called pascal average I just think he is pretty average. Losing to a guy like Froch just backs it up.

Bute and Froch have a common opponent and they faced him in a close time frame so it's a good yard stick. Bute schooled him Froch struggled a fair bit and if Johnson was anywhere near close to still being good he would have sparked Froch out the amount of time he caught him with that big right hook.

Who are these great fighters Froch beat as far as I can see he came up short in a close fight with Kessler and got put right in his place by Ward. I thoroughly expect Bute to do the same.

Pascal- Just not that good
Taylor- Past it
Abraham- Not a super middleweight
Dirrell- Froch got a home town decision
Johnson- If he was 5 years younger Froch would have left on a stretcher

dirrell wasnt just a hometown decision, it was a total robbery. had to laugh at froch and buncey criticising all the british pundits for not supporting him and suggesting dirrell had won.

Lance wrote:

paperbag_puncher wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Bradley gets stopped in the second half, nowhere near good enough and never will, made for Pac, walks in straight lines and tries to bully his opponents. I think theres a decent theory on if youre able to get on the inside of Pac you can bully him and walk him backwards, poor Bradley doesnt have the skill to do that.

Rubbish. There aren't many boxers in and around Bradley's weight division that are better at roughing people up and getting on the inside. What might get him stopped is he'll come to win and not just to survive like Clottey, Marg or Mosley not his lack of a decent inside game.

rubbish is your comment about marg coming to survive. wasnt clottey and mosley enough to make your point, so you had to beef it up a bit

Marg doesn't know what survival mode is he comes to fight and gives it a go til the end. I agree with him on Bradley though he is the best around the weight at roughing people up on the inside I see him causing Pac a lot of trouble.

Sorry PBK but that is complete garbage, im out.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Sorry PBK but that is complete garbage, im out.

Sorry mate but what bit was garbage or was it that I upset you by having a go at Froch the self proclaimed warrior.

Do you really think the Dirrell fight was a robbery? A close fight in which Dirrell was unbelievably negative. I wouldn't shout anyone down for picking Dirrell but calling it a robbery is too far.