The 2012 predictions

Aside from death and taxes these are the other things I am certain of.



1 - No British player would win a major ( English+Scottish+Welsh )

2 - Rory would overtakes a lack lustre Luke Donald and Westwood in the rankings. (Their time is up they had 2 yrs and did nothing)

3 - Tiger is back and wins multiple tournaments and a major or more (The only way is up)

4 - Europe loses the Ryder cup ( Another annex of the Euro crisis albeit smaller)

Yawn, yet another pointless, predictable, provacative post designed to elicit response despite it being poorly thought out and completely without any form or reason ( or grammar either for that matter).

1. Maybe
2. Possibly. I think he'll pass Westwood, maybe not Donald.
3. Maybe
4. Id make the Yanks favourites on home soil so probably.

super_realist wrote:Yawn, yet another pointless, predictable, provacative post designed to elicit response despite it being poorly thought out and completely without any form or reason ( or grammar either for that matter).

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Keizo,
I have never said that Woods wouldn't win another tournament, and I have never said he wouldn't win another major.

And yes McIlroy (and Clarke) are British, so Britain actually won TWO majors in 2011.

Diggers wrote:1. Maybe
2. Possibly. I think he'll pass Westwood, maybe not Donald.
3. Maybe
4. Id make the Yanks favourites on home soil so probably.

Very certain Diggers of the 4 I mentioned - one great thing about this board is that you can always bring up old posts unlike BBC where some people could post complete rubbish and pretend they never said it.

super_realist wrote:Keizo,
I have never said that Woods wouldn't win another tournament, and I have never said he wouldn't win another major.

And yes McIlroy (and Clarke) are British, so Britain actually won TWO majors in 2011.

Back tracking are we?


Not only lying but showing you are gutless. How sad... I have respect for people who say something and stick with it.

Keizo, it's you who has a selective memory. It's incredibly convenient for you to claim I said these things when you can't bring up the evidence to show that I said it. However, it isn't me who is constantly pilloried on this forum for very odd views indeed.
Keep trying though, you might manage to emulate Simba if you keep going.

May as well tacke these points as if they were made seriously.

1 - No British player would win a major ( English+Scottish+Welsh )

I would say it is practically certain that neither a Scottish or welsh player will win a major in 2012, who can argue with that?



2 - Rory would overtakes a lack luster Luke Donald and Westwood in the rankings. (Their time is up they had 2 yrs and did nothing)

I also believe Westwood will only continue to go backwards and has probably missed his chance in the majors. As for Donald, he will probably nor match 2011 in terms of consistency but it would be a big surprise no to see him contend in at least one major. For Rory to overtake him he will need to do well in the bigger events more often as Rory does not seem the sort of player that will make number one through playing a heavy schedule with great consistency. I don’t see this happening and think Kaymer is more likely to reach number 1 than Mcilroy.


3 - Tiger is back and wins multiple tournaments and a major or more (The only way is up)

It cant get worse for him and would think he will win on one of his favorites like bay hill but miss out on a major.

4 - Europe loses the Ryder cup ( Another annex of the Euro crisis albeit smaller)

Far too early to tell Keizo, it will come down to who has 5-6 players on top form come October. If pushed I would go with home advantage.

KeizoYamata wrote:

Diggers wrote:1. Maybe
2. Possibly. I think he'll pass Westwood, maybe not Donald.
3. Maybe
4. Id make the Yanks favourites on home soil so probably.

Very certain Diggers of the 4 I mentioned - one great thing about this board is that you can always bring up old posts unlike BBC where some people could post complete rubbish and pretend they never said it.

There is nothing wrong with giving your opinion with a few predictions. But thats all it is at the end of the day. If you want to convince me of how certain you are post us a link to the betting slip that shows you have put your money where your mouth is. Id settle for say a £5k stake, am sure you'd get very good odds on a multiplier of four bets. After all if you are certain of whats going to happen you'd be very foolish not to do it.

Diggers wrote:

KeizoYamata wrote:

Diggers wrote:1. Maybe
2. Possibly. I think he'll pass Westwood, maybe not Donald.
3. Maybe
4. Id make the Yanks favourites on home soil so probably.

Very certain Diggers of the 4 I mentioned - one great thing about this board is that you can always bring up old posts unlike BBC where some people could post complete rubbish and pretend they never said it.

There is nothing wrong with giving your opinion with a few predictions. But thats all it is at the end of the day. If you want to convince me of how certain you are post us a link to the betting slip that shows you have put your money where your mouth is. Id settle for say a £5k stake, am sure you'd get very good odds on a multiplier of four bets. After all if you are certain of whats going to happen you'd be very foolish not to do it.

I'd settle for him taking down the poster of Woods from his bedroom ceiling if his "prophetic" predictions fail to come to pass.

super_realist wrote:Keizo, it's you who has a selective memory. It's incredibly convenient for you to claim I said these things when you can't bring up the evidence to show that I said it. However, it isn't me who is constantly pilloried on this forum for very odd views indeed.
Keep trying though, you might manage to emulate Simba if you keep going.

I am going to make this really easy for you we can start afresh. Lets admit I was 100% wrong and you never said Tiger would never win a tournament. Why don't you be kind enough to tell us what your 2012 predictions are that no ones ends up confuddled.

Or you don't make predictions until 30seconds before the final putt of the tournament?

Keizo

Grow up.

KeizoYamata wrote:

super_realist wrote:Keizo, it's you who has a selective memory. It's incredibly convenient for you to claim I said these things when you can't bring up the evidence to show that I said it. However, it isn't me who is constantly pilloried on this forum for very odd views indeed.
Keep trying though, you might manage to emulate Simba if you keep going.

I am going to make this really easy for you we can start afresh. Lets admit I was 100% wrong and you never said Tiger would never win a tournament. Why don't you be kind enough to tell us what your 2012 predictions are that no ones ends up confuddled.

Or you don't make predictions until 30seconds before the final putt of the tournament?

Keizo,
I haven't even thought about 2012 yet. It's a pointless thing to do. I wouldn't place a bet on any tournament that far in advance, so why try and make predictions simply to counteract yours.
Like D4S says, grow up.

McLaren wrote:



I would say it is practically certain that neither a Scottish or welsh player will win a major in 2012, who can argue with that?

Agreed

I also believe Westwood will only continue to go backwards and has probably missed his chance in the majors. As for Donald, he will probably nor match 2011 in terms of consistency but it would be a big surprise no to see him contend in at least one major. For Rory to overtake him he will need to do well in the bigger events more often as Rory does not seem the sort of player that will make number one through playing a heavy schedule with great consistency. I don’t see this happening and think Kaymer is more likely to reach number 1 than Mcilroy.

Yes agreed with almost everything you said number is between Rory, Kaymer and Tiger

It cant get worse for him and would think he will win on one of his favorites like bay hill but miss out on a major.

Disagree about the majors bit - I think we are going to see a 2005 season

Far too early to tell Keizo, it will come down to who has 5-6 players on top form come October. If pushed I would go with home advantage.

Well far too early of course but home advantage is enough for me

Keizo, home advantage hasn't been enough for you in the past. 50/50 in the last 4 matches in America.

Diggers wrote:

KeizoYamata wrote:

Diggers wrote:1. Maybe
2. Possibly. I think he'll pass Westwood, maybe not Donald.
3. Maybe
4. Id make the Yanks favourites on home soil so probably.

Very certain Diggers of the 4 I mentioned - one great thing about this board is that you can always bring up old posts unlike BBC where some people could post complete rubbish and pretend they never said it.

There is nothing wrong with giving your opinion with a few predictions. But thats all it is at the end of the day. If you want to convince me of how certain you are post us a link to the betting slip that shows you have put your money where your mouth is. Id settle for say a £5k stake, am sure you'd get very good odds on a multiplier of four bets. After all if you are certain of whats going to happen you'd be very foolish not to do it.

The fact I have publicly said it is good enough. I dont bet with the bookies out of principle as I make money other ways. But I'd wager anyone here. How about that?

drive4show wrote:Keizo

Grow up.

6ft 2 is enough for me.

KeizoYamata wrote:

drive4show wrote:Keizo

Grow up.

6ft 2 is enough for me.

That response just confirms your level of immaturity

super_realist wrote:

KeizoYamata wrote:

super_realist wrote:Keizo, it's you who has a selective memory. It's incredibly convenient for you to claim I said these things when you can't bring up the evidence to show that I said it. However, it isn't me who is constantly pilloried on this forum for very odd views indeed.
Keep trying though, you might manage to emulate Simba if you keep going.

I am going to make this really easy for you we can start afresh. Lets admit I was 100% wrong and you never said Tiger would never win a tournament. Why don't you be kind enough to tell us what your 2012 predictions are that no ones ends up confuddled.

Or you don't make predictions until 30seconds before the final putt of the tournament?

Keizo,
I haven't even thought about 2012 yet. It's a pointless thing to do. I wouldn't place a bet on any tournament that far in advance, so why try and make predictions simply to counteract yours.
Like D4S says, grow up.

Oh dear all of a sudden SR cant think that far Funny you normally cant wait to tell us what would happen. How long do I have to wait for your prediction? I am a very patient man.

KeizoYamata wrote:

drive4show wrote:Keizo

Grow up.

6ft 2 is enough for me.

Is that the distance between your bed and the poster of Woods on your ceiling in your bedroom in your mum and dad's house.

If you are so certain stick on 5k, after all you'll be quids in, what have you got to lose?

drive4show wrote:

KeizoYamata wrote:

drive4show wrote:Keizo

Grow up.

6ft 2 is enough for me.

That response just confirms your level of immaturity

True, I am old enough to post here.

Did anyone see Kenny Miller's goal against Cyprus?

For those that missed it, here is a link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FBrTvZIvvw

What about the England result against Spain? Always good to beat the world champs but how much can be written into a friendly result?

Comment please?

KeizoYamata wrote:

Diggers wrote:

KeizoYamata wrote:

Diggers wrote:1. Maybe
2. Possibly. I think he'll pass Westwood, maybe not Donald.
3. Maybe
4. Id make the Yanks favourites on home soil so probably.

Very certain Diggers of the 4 I mentioned - one great thing about this board is that you can always bring up old posts unlike BBC where some people could post complete rubbish and pretend they never said it.

There is nothing wrong with giving your opinion with a few predictions. But thats all it is at the end of the day. If you want to convince me of how certain you are post us a link to the betting slip that shows you have put your money where your mouth is. Id settle for say a £5k stake, am sure you'd get very good odds on a multiplier of four bets. After all if you are certain of whats going to happen you'd be very foolish not to do it.

The fact I have publicly said it is good enough. I dont bet with the bookies out of principle as I make money other ways. But I'd wager anyone here. How about that?

I think the point is nobody else is expressing your level of certainty, there isnt another Nostradamus on teh forum. You are the one with the crystal ball, its not about proving us wrong but you right surely.

super_realist wrote:

KeizoYamata wrote:

drive4show wrote:Keizo

Grow up.

6ft 2 is enough for me.

Is that the distance between your bed and the poster of Woods on your ceiling in your bedroom in your mum and dad's house.

If you are so certain stick on 5k, after all you'll be quids in, what have you got to lose?

It's all about ROI. I put my money where I can get the best possible return. No bookies can give me a decent return on my investment backing these obvious predictions. But I am happy to make an exception betting against anyone here.

Is that silence I hear?

My predictions for 2012
1. A European, more than likely McIlroy or Donald will top the rankings by the end of the year.
2. The Americans will probably try and move the end of the year if one of theirs isn't top
3. Europe will have yet another breakthrough major winner.
4. The Ryder cup will be too close to call
5. Ollie will have probably the most difficult time in his whole golfing career trying to decide on his Captains picks.
6. Woods will start a modest climb back up the rankings due to having very few points to drop after a relatively (for him) shocking 2 years.
7. Keizo will be banned from 606v2 for being a provocative choob
8. Keizo will be sectioned
9. Keizo will turn up at the 606v2 get together to plead for another chance to indulge in reasoned debate
10. Keizo will express disgust that the chosen 606v2 meet up venue doesn't have a hole with a Windmill to putt through.
Mad predictions??? I refer you to the original post!!

Keizo

I did not say the number one spot is between rory, kaymer and Tiger rather that Kaymer is the most likely to challenge Donald. I am not even sure what sort of season tiger needs to get back inside the top 10 never mind number 1.

KeizoYamata wrote:

super_realist wrote:

KeizoYamata wrote:

drive4show wrote:Keizo

Grow up.

6ft 2 is enough for me.

Is that the distance between your bed and the poster of Woods on your ceiling in your bedroom in your mum and dad's house.

If you are so certain stick on 5k, after all you'll be quids in, what have you got to lose?

It's all about ROI. I put my money where I can get the best possible return. No bookies can give me a decent return on my investment backing these obvious predictions. But I am happy to make an exception betting against anyone here.

Is that silence I hear?

Hmm, I very much doubt that. I recken you'd get at least 10-1 on a multiplier on your bet, probably better. Thats a very good return for what is in your mind a certainty. You'd be far more foolish to make the same bet with another individual on a 50-50 basis.
You will get 5/2 on Woods winning a major alone with Paddy Power, factor in all your other predictions and you'd be quids in with a bookie.

Diggers wrote:

KeizoYamata wrote:

Diggers wrote:

KeizoYamata wrote:

Diggers wrote:1. Maybe
2. Possibly. I think he'll pass Westwood, maybe not Donald.
3. Maybe
4. Id make the Yanks favourites on home soil so probably.

Very certain Diggers of the 4 I mentioned - one great thing about this board is that you can always bring up old posts unlike BBC where some people could post complete rubbish and pretend they never said it.

There is nothing wrong with giving your opinion with a few predictions. But thats all it is at the end of the day. If you want to convince me of how certain you are post us a link to the betting slip that shows you have put your money where your mouth is. Id settle for say a £5k stake, am sure you'd get very good odds on a multiplier of four bets. After all if you are certain of whats going to happen you'd be very foolish not to do it.

The fact I have publicly said it is good enough. I dont bet with the bookies out of principle as I make money other ways. But I'd wager anyone here. How about that?

I think the point is nobody else is expressing your level of certainty, there isnt another Nostradamus on teh forum. You are the one with the crystal ball, its not about proving us wrong but you right surely.

Market makers don't have to be nostradamus, it's all about perception, analysis and probability.

Keizo

Once again, you ruin what could have been interesting posting with deliberate WUMing. I don't feel in the mood anymore so I'll say this once and once only:

Keep your comments away from the personal and on the golf please. If you can't comment without deliberately being inflammatory, don't comment at all.

KeizoYamata wrote:3 - A British player would win a major in 2011 (Oops looks like that failed but then again I see you are taking Rory as one of yours

Rory and Darren are both British players from "our wee country" therefore SR was correct.

Never the less, predicitons...

[1] Rory / Donald to finish 2012 World #1
[2] Rory to win the Masters, Woods and Scott to push close
[3] Tiger to win 1 PGA event (non-Major)
[4] Tiger to get back into the World Top 10
[5] Europe to retain the Ryder Cup
[6] Tom Lewis to finish season within World Top 50

Oh... I forgot one...11. Keizo's geography teacher gives him detention for not being able (despite being told multiple multiple times) that Northern Ireland is actually a part of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (to be fair the clue is actually in the name!!)
For ROI to be winning majors there would have to be a dramatic return to form for Harrington or perhaps a breakthrough for SRs favourite, the svelt athletic Lowry.

JAS wrote:My predictions for 2012
1. A European, more than likely McIlroy or Donald will top the rankings by the end of the year.
2. The Americans will probably try and move the end of the year if one of theirs isn't top
3. Europe will have yet another breakthrough major winner.
4. The Ryder cup will be too close to call
5. Ollie will have probably the most difficult time in his whole golfing career trying to decide on his Captains picks.
6. Woods will start a modest climb back up the rankings due to having very few points to drop after a relatively (for him) shocking 2 years.
7. Keizo will be banned from 606v2 for being a provocative choob
8. Keizo will be sectioned
9. Keizo will turn up at the 606v2 get together to plead for another chance to indulge in reasoned debate
10. Keizo will express disgust that the chosen 606v2 meet up venue doesn't have a hole with a Windmill to putt through.
Mad predictions??? I refer you to the original post!!

I am interested in 1 - 6. Fair enough points made and easier predictions to make but at least you made them based on your perception and did not hide behind any excuses. I am waiting for Kwini's prediction- (not that I expect him to give any as he is too coy )

McLaren wrote:Keizo

I did not say the number one spot is between rory, kaymer and Tiger rather that Kaymer is the most likely to challenge Donald. I am not even sure what sort of season tiger needs to get back inside the top 10 never mind number 1.

I know what you meant, but I was giving my take who I think would be number 1 and it's between Rory, Kaymer and Tiger. For Tiger to get to top 10 just 3 wins and 1 top 5 starting from Chevron would do the trick. It would be walk in the park - the easiest stroll to a top 10.

Considering he has won ZERO competitions for over two years, 3 wins would seem anything but a walk in the park, and that's IF the top ten stand still, which most of them will not, I fully expect Donald, Kaymer, McIlroy, Day and Johnson to continue to garner points, thus distancing themselves even further.

Seriously, you give a person enough rope and he'll hang himself.

D4S, thanks for the link. Probably the only time you will see the following three words on a Keizo thread: Super was right; great goal.

England beating Spain, so what, need to do it when it matters but a win is a win. Let's jump on the bandwagon, we're winning the Euros.

I think Keizo forgot one thing to complete his predictions. If he had included FACT, there would be no doubt whatsoever.

navyblueshorts wrote:Keizo

Once again, you ruin what could have been interesting posting with deliberate WUMing. I don't feel in the mood anymore so I'll say this once and once only:

Keep your comments away from the personal and on the golf please. If you can't comment without deliberately being inflammatory, don't comment at all.

I agree!

From now on no more prediction threads from me.

super_realist wrote:Considering he has won ZERO competitions for over two years, 3 wins would seem anything but a walk in the park, and that's IF the top ten stand still, which most of them will not, I fully expect Donald, Kaymer, McIlroy, Day and Johnson to continue to garner points, thus distancing themselves even further.

Seriously, you give a person enough rope and he'll hang himself.

Have you forgotten 2005?

JAS wrote:Oh... I forgot one...11. Keizo's geography teacher gives him detention for not being able (despite being told multiple multiple times) that Northern Ireland is actually a part of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (to be fair the clue is actually in the name!!)
For ROI to be winning majors there would have to be a dramatic return to form for Harrington or perhaps a breakthrough for SRs favourite, the svelt athletic Lowry.

It's the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It's been that way since 1921. If you don't believe me, look inside your passport.

So players from Northern Ireland are from the UK, but not from Great Britain. They are mistakenly referred to as British for reasons of giving them a 'tag' because UK doesn't have a convenient adjective like 'British'.

Let me see Keizo, that was 6 years ago (SIX).

Stop living in the past. You might as well say Alan Shearer should still be playing for England on that basis. The past, especially a past that distant, bears absolutely not relevance to the current day.

I'd like to make a prediction. Keizo will make more predictions.









Almost forgot.... FACT

Try telling Westwood & Stricker not to look at the past when they made there comebacks !!, lets hope Woods makes a full comeback & starts slaping the rest in the face with a large fish just like before !!.

dr

I'd rather not hope for a Woods comeback thanks.

Ok then lets hope for a Faldo comeback then !! If Shearers back in the England squad surely Faldo & Lyle will contest the next Masters.

predict this !! Woods to finish above Westwood in all 4 Majors ??

super_realist wrote:Let me see Keizo, that was 6 years ago (SIX).

Stop living in the past. You might as well say Alan Shearer should still be playing for England on that basis. The past, especially a past that distant, bears absolutely not relevance to the current day.

I brought up the past because their is a correlation - each time he had a swing change he went through a 2 year period where he did not win or hardly won 1997 - 1998, - 2003 - 2004. We have reached the 2 year milestone - the wins might had come sooner if not for the injury but they are coming. You think his game just fell of like that for no reason? We have had this arguement for over a year. Give me your predictions where. How do you think Luke and Westwood would fare. It's fun talking about how Tiger would fail, but lets see you talk about how good your favourites would play?

Predictions please! Or you just are not confident or have no insight into Golf

dr_peeps wrote:Ok then lets hope for a Faldo comeback then !! If Shearers back in the England squad surely Faldo & Lyle will contest the next Masters.

predict this !! Woods to finish above Westwood in all 4 Majors ??

Yes Woods Trumps westwood in all 4 majors!!

P.S No one would take you on that bet

dr_peeps wrote:Ok then lets hope for a Faldo comeback then !! If Shearers back in the England squad surely Faldo & Lyle will contest the next Masters.

predict this !! Woods to finish above Westwood in all 4 Majors ??

I'll take you up on that, loser to donate say £100 to charity of the winners choice...

Woods issues are more mental than physical though Keizo, far harder to come back from. He could be another Michael Campbell or Baker-Finch for all you know.

super_realist wrote:Woods issues are more mental than physical though Keizo, far harder to come back from. He could be another Michael Campbell or Baker-Finch for all you know.

To be fair thats complete conjecture on your part Super. I personally dont agree with you.

Diggers, it's an opinion, like everything else. I personally do go along with that , as how could someone so good, suddenly start stinking the place out (by his standards) coinciding with his "problems".