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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:34 pm

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Another one bites the dust, albeit it this was a c*** fight anyway. Perhaps Warren is retiring, kidding.

I honestly could not care less about this one.



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Post by AlexHuckerby Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:48 pm

With who!? Havent been with Degale... I thought Froch looked a bit past it and much slower... I have no idea of these fictional times...

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Post by Steffan Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:50 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:I have no idea of these fictional times...
Prehaps I have caught 'Jab Machine syndrome' Laugh

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:53 pm

Sorry, I don't understand the problem here, Sean?

You want the petition taken down from a global?

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Post by manos de piedra Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:53 pm

I actually think a fight with Hopkins in the summer is not that far fetched, if Hopkins were to lose to Dawson. I think Hopkins will lose to Dawson and provided its not some kind of SD or controversial fight that spawns a rematch then I think its a possibility. A bigger issue would be trying to present Hopkins with a deal that he finds acceptable which is why if Hopkins wins I dont think the fight goes ahead until Cleverly up his reputation and financial stock within the sport.

I think Warren knows he wont be able to generate public interest in Cleverly if he fights continued unranked opposition. But I think he trying to play a bit of catch up with him and get him more experience before a fight with Hopkins.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:56 pm

At the very least put him in with guys who genuinely pose questions however, Diacanu would be perfect.

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Post by manos de piedra Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:10 pm

Well Warren be thinking that if hes going to risk him, he might aswell risk him with the biggest and most financially lucrative name in the division. That way everyone makes money and its something of a win/win scenario even if Cleverly loses. Hes lost to a legend, got some good publicity and kudos, intrest in him is raised significantly, hes made good money etc

If he puts him in with Diaconu and he loses then he loses his title and gets written off as a bum. His stock is destroyed, at least temporarily and he has to go back to stage 1.

His opposition has been so poor lately that I have wondered if it isnt just the case that they genuinely are going to try for Hopkins in the Summer and want to ensure theres no possible hiccough before then.

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Post by bhb001 Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:15 pm

manos de piedra wrote:That way everyone makes money and its something of a win/win scenario even if Cleverly loses. Hes lost to a legend, got some good publicity and kudos, intrest in him is raised significantly, hes made good money etc

What if he gets schooled for 12 rounds and looks like green behind the ears amatuer posing as a professional? Does this also count as a win, because I doubt there would be much kudos in this case? Just a possibility for supporting Bruno at this years pantomine as the back end of a donkey

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Post by manos de piedra Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:22 pm

bhb001 wrote:
manos de piedra wrote:That way everyone makes money and its something of a win/win scenario even if Cleverly loses. Hes lost to a legend, got some good publicity and kudos, intrest in him is raised significantly, hes made good money etc

What if he gets schooled for 12 rounds and looks like green behind the ears amatuer posing as a professional? Does this also count as a win, because I doubt there would be much kudos in this case? Just a possibility for supporting Bruno at this years pantomine as the back end of a donkey

Well I think thats the kind of attitude that I think makes promoters reluctant to risk fighters in the first place. I think he would get respect for taking the fight. Yes theres a risk he gets outclassed but Hopkins will be close to 48y with an engine that only allows him to fight sporadically in fights. I suspect Cleverly would lose but if he performed credibly then by and large I think he would emerge from the fight without too much damage to his career.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:29 pm

Fists of Fury wrote:Sorry, I don't understand the problem here, Sean?

You want the petition taken down from a global?

Yes please. Cheers!

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Post by Seanusarrilius Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:30 pm

Steffan wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:Name 3 examples of when I have done that and been overly harsh
Your like it all the time. Aint tracing through your posting history aint got time

Steffan is a wind up merchant. Alex, don't bite. The court jester doesn't mean it, do you Steffan.

Silly little mindless Steffan. Ha.

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Post by bhb001 Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:30 pm

manos de piedra wrote:
bhb001 wrote:
manos de piedra wrote:That way everyone makes money and its something of a win/win scenario even if Cleverly loses. Hes lost to a legend, got some good publicity and kudos, intrest in him is raised significantly, hes made good money etc

What if he gets schooled for 12 rounds and looks like green behind the ears amatuer posing as a professional? Does this also count as a win, because I doubt there would be much kudos in this case? Just a possibility for supporting Bruno at this years pantomine as the back end of a donkey

Well I think thats the kind of attitude that I think makes promoters reluctant to risk fighters in the first place. I think he would get respect for taking the fight. Yes theres a risk he gets outclassed but Hopkins will be close to 48y with an engine that only allows him to fight sporadically in fights. I suspect Cleverly would lose but if he performed credibly then by and large I think he would emerge from the fight without too much damage to his career.

Big If and hypothetical at best. Given the age of Hopkins, we would all be saying father time caught up with him. I would much prefer Cleverley fight his mandatory and then we have a bench mark from which to move on from.

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Post by manos de piedra Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:40 pm

Id have no complaints if he fought Hopkins. This mandatory of Cleverlys is probably not much better than Murat is not a top ten ranked fighter in the division.

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Post by bhb001 Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:49 pm

Manos, understand your perspective on this, clearly put as always, but I'll agree to differ on this occasion

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:39 pm

Who is the admin active at the moment in this topic?

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Post by Seanusarrilius Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:43 pm

JabMachineMK2 wrote:Who is the admin active at the moment in this topic?

Rowley

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:56 pm

We'll see if an admin contacts me in relation to Steffan. Think recently he needs reigning in.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:59 pm

JabMachineMK2 wrote:We'll see if an admin contacts me in relation to Steffan. Think recently he needs reigning in.

Agreed, but they're doing nothing. Board has been too quiet recently IMO, not enough contributors and the seasoned vets seem to have not been posting, which exposes the Steffans of this world

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Post by HumanWindmill Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:02 pm

Couple of weeks off and I get back to see that nothing has changed.

Folks calling each other retards, other choice insults flying freely, double standards being practised and the whole thing descending into chaos.

Either we cut the bickering or I cut the thread.

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:06 pm

Windy, welcome back!

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:06 pm

A timely special...er Return. Sorry, Freudian Slip. Welcome back windy.

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Post by Steffan Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:08 pm

Welcome back Windy OK

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Post by Seanusarrilius Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:11 pm

HumanWindmill wrote:Couple of weeks off and I get back to see that nothing has changed.

Folks calling each other retards, other choice insults flying freely, double standards being practised and the whole thing descending into chaos.

Either we cut the bickering or I cut the thread.

Windy! Welcome back.

See the good will spread just by the mere mention of your name

Steffan i love thee, thoust hast no place but in my heart. Hither toward me my little Welsh leek. Haha

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:12 pm

Welcome back Windy - place has been poorer in your absence OK

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:13 pm

Welcome back Windy, don't be put off by the one rotten thread. Tino's been rambling on about all manner of people I've never heard of. Great stuff!

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Post by Steffan Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:13 pm

I love you too Seanusarrilius although you should cut back the preview time on your Youtube videos as they tend to go on a bit too long. Anything more than 5 minutes is a no no

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:17 pm

John Bloody Wayne wrote:Welcome back Windy, don't be put off by the one rotten thread. Tino's been rambling on about all manner of people I've never heard of. Great stuff!

Thanks John, old buddy. No-one is remotely interested but it just makes me more determined!

When did Windy leave? Only kidding, welcome back Sir.

Mind the windows Tino.
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Post by Seanusarrilius Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:19 pm

Steffan wrote:I love you too Seanusarrilius although you should cut back the preview time on your Youtube videos as they tend to go on a bit too long. Anything more than 5 minutes is a no no

I deleted them all mate. No more predicting, due to time constraints.

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Post by Steffan Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:21 pm

Seanusarrilius wrote:
Steffan wrote:I love you too Seanusarrilius although you should cut back the preview time on your Youtube videos as they tend to go on a bit too long. Anything more than 5 minutes is a no no

I deleted them all mate. No more predicting, due to time constraints.
Fair do. I been struggling for time as well between Uni and the new misses. Not much worth previewing anyway is there. Pacman v Bradley the only one that springs to mind

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Post by HumanWindmill Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:24 pm

My word, I didn't anticipate so warm a welcome.

Thanks very much, fellas. Good to be here again.

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Post by Steffan Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:26 pm

Where you been anyway Windy? (Money is on all inclusive trip to the Bahamas)

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Post by Seanusarrilius Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:26 pm

WW2 Vets reunion?

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Post by Steffan Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:28 pm

Seanusarrilius wrote:WW2 Vets reunion?
Plus he lives in Germany so must think WW2 is still going on. Post war madness and that

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:30 pm

Cant be true. Post traumatic stress disorder? Disorder in germany? pshh

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Post by HumanWindmill Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:38 pm

On the trail of the Greb v Walker footage. It's out there, I tell ya!

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Post by trottb Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:39 pm

JabMachineMK2 wrote:Welcome back Windy - place has been poorer in your absence OK

Is that in a financial sense? We all know how these Mods enjoy lavish holidays on the V2 expenses.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:43 pm

trottb wrote:
JabMachineMK2 wrote:Welcome back Windy - place has been poorer in your absence OK

Is that in a financial sense? We all know how these Mods enjoy lavish holidays on the V2 expenses.

Haha, Modding it up in Ibiza with Fists and co.

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Post by HumanWindmill Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:44 pm

Mine was ruined by the breakdown of my Lamborghini, trott. Believe me, I was thinking about you all when they towed it away.

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Post by Steffan Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:48 pm

Iv never really thought about what the mods do for a living. I just assumed that:

Adam - Totally loaded and doesnt need to work

Windy - Beyond working age and retired

Fists - On incapacity benefit. Does a few hobbles on the sly

Oxy - Doing easy degree in Uni. Parents probably rich

Rowley - Claims JSA and lives in remote Yorkshire village where jobs are few and far between

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Post by trottb Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:51 pm

HumanWindmill wrote:Mine was ruined by the breakdown of my Lamborghini, trott. Believe me, I was thinking about you all when they towed it away.

Must have been dreadful having to use the Bugatti. I know you only like driving that in the Summer.

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Post by HumanWindmill Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:09 pm

trottb wrote:
HumanWindmill wrote:Mine was ruined by the breakdown of my Lamborghini, trott. Believe me, I was thinking about you all when they towed it away.

Must have been dreadful having to use the Bugatti. I know you only like driving that in the Summer.

Haha!

Yes, the blue one!

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:23 pm

Its pissing it down here in luton and I can't help but love it. Been a long time since we had proper rain!.

You missed some crackers while you were gone windy. Rowley got views in double figures and only a minor percentage referred to his gut and his racist job. Tino has become ino, from twit to wit and has brought up some crackers and Azania has been moderately peaceful. Steffan has criticised cleverly and we've had several good discussions not mentioned above and as soon as you come back the place goes to crap Laugh Think we have a seriousness limit on this place or something.

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Post by Rowley Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:27 pm

ShahenshahG wrote:Rowley got views in double figures and only a minor percentage referred to his gut and his racist job.

A brighter man than me would assume there is not really a market for the colour line greats series, unfortunately for you I am pretty stupid so will be ploughing on irrespective, am tempted to write the next one on Amir Khan, realise he has not really been impacted by the colour line but suspect people will be too busy arguing about whether he wears nice shoes or some such rubbish to notice.

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Post by HumanWindmill Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:32 pm

Certainly chose the wrong time to take a couple of weeks away, by the look of it.

Doubtless there will be more goodies just around the corner.

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:42 pm

rowley wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:Rowley got views in double figures and only a minor percentage referred to his gut and his racist job.

A brighter man than me would assume there is not really a market for the colour line greats series, unfortunately for you I am pretty stupid so will be ploughing on irrespective, am tempted to write the next one on Amir Khan, realise he has not really been impacted by the colour line but suspect people will be too busy arguing about whether he wears nice shoes or some such rubbish to notice.

You may be fat, you may be racist and you maybe stupid but you are not an ostrich. Genuinely enjoyed those articles, so get going on the next one, I might not be able to comment sometimes but rest assured I have read it. Its alright windy, long might it continue.

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