JD2 may miss the Aus tour

Scarlets centre Jonathan Davies has been ruled out of the rest of the Pro12 season because of a hernia problem.

The injury could keep him out for up to five weeks if it requires surgery, raising doubts over his involvement on Wales' tour to Australia.

Scarlets will consult with the Wales team management before deciding whether Davies, 24, goes under the knife.
"It doesn't look likely Jon will be available now," said Scarlets coach Nigel Davies.

Scarlets have two games left in the regular season, starting at home to Munster on Saturday and then home again against Cardiff Blues on 5 May.
A place in the end-of-season play-offs is still within their grasp, but they need two wins and other results to go their way to move up into the top four.
Davies started every game as Wales won this season's Six Nations Grand Slam and was expected to face Australia in the three Test tour in June.

"He's gone to see a specialist for a consultation on a sports hernia," added coach Davies.
"After that consultation we'll know where he is. There's two courses of action, either we can rehab him and get him available in the next couple of weeks or the other option is that he gets an operation done.
"That's a three to five week rehab. I can't see him being available for us for the rest of the season."

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Looks like we are running out of centres.

Beck and S.Williams to play if JD2 doesn't go?

Or will Hook get a chance?

You could see S Williams and North. I wonder if we'll take another centre like Adam Hughes or extra cover at 10 and 15

Hmmm... North in centre... I'd liek to see that. I hope Gatland doesnt go for Hook...

Adam huges would be a good choice he deserves some time in the international squad.

Henson could be a wild card!

I think he may go for the extra experience that Hook brings but I would prefer to see he likes of Sc Williams, Beck and Hughes get a crack with maybe North having a run there also

Here we go, the old, we are not using this as a development tour to test new caps, honest. What's the bets Adam Jones, Mathew Rees, George North, Sam Warburton, Toby Faletau, Dan Lydiate et al will have injuries as well. The only players who will tour will be our foreign based players.

Well isn't Scott Williams injured as well. I think if Scott, JD2 and Jamie are injured it will be Beck and Hook in the centres.

Its always the same isn't it for us every time we get a big chance we end up with lots of injuries to key players.

doctornickolas wrote:Well isn't Scott Williams injured as well. I think if Scott, JD2 and Jamie are injured it will be Beck and Hook in the centres.

Its always the same isn't it for us every time we get a big chance we end up with lots of injuries to key players.

Yeh, what a coincidence.

North and Beck could be an interesting combo...! I wouldn't rule it out, depends where everyone sees young Norths future?

Well Gatts has already said that he sees him as a potential centre so i reckon its more than likely now he will play a game or two there

It will be interesting, he has good natural tendencies to look for support rather than out and out try scorer like Shane or Cuthbert do... Could be a good call putting him at 13.

Isn't Scott Williams supposed to recover in time? It also says up to five weeks regarding Davies' injury which would mean he'll be available provided there are no setbacks.

Wouldn't be surprised though with our luck if we only get to take a depleted side Down Under.

We havent had much luck in the injury regard before when we have won a GS. So I am certainly not counting my chickens, whilst sending rolls of bubble wrap to all the regions for the welsh squad players with subtle hints written as cover notes...

We need a Forth place IRB ranking more than a RAbbo 12 win...

We have depth in the forwards

But had the same backline for the entire 6Ns,

and now we could be down 2/3 centres

Typical isn't it, we lose our first choice centres. never mind, we got cover.

12. Beck
13. North

Then 1/2p and Cuthbert on the wings and Byrne to FB, Adam Hughes would be good to take, then have Byrne at FB, he's been playing well enough to justify his inclusion. Have Hook on the bench covering 10/12, don't know who the other back would be, suggestion oh Henson. If he had been playing regular for the Blues in a heart beat, now, no chance.

That's what i'm thinking they'll do martyr, although we could see Hook at 12 instead of Beck for his experience.

I wouldn't argue against Hook at 12 then Biggar covering 10 if he carries on his current form.

Bigger will go, as will Hook, I doubt Priestland will go, as I doubt North, Cuthbert, Lloyd Williams, Alyn Wyn Jones, Warburton, Faletau and Lydiate will go and Halfpenny will go. The regions will find some sort of injury that will keep them out until the start of the season. Gethin will go, Charteris, and Mike Phillips will go. Trust me we have not heard the last of our injuries yet.

Well its out of our hands, if there's injuries there's injuries other people will have to step and play. If we can get our first choice pack out then I think we can out power the Aussies up front.

martyr_94 wrote:Well its out of our hands, if there's injuries there's injuries other people will have to step and play. If we can get our first choice pack out then I think we can out power the Aussies up front.

Had to say it didn't you

Cue Adam Jones injury...

Damn. I was looking forward to seeing Davies at 12. His best position IMO.

wales606 wrote:We have depth in the forwards

But had the same backline for the entire 6Ns,

and now we could be down 2/3 centres

Hook and Williams had loads of game time off the bench, so did Webb and Williams.

Can't do much more than that.

sure, it's team Wales, Foxy will have the op, a nice 5 weeks off and then be back fully fit to tour, after again missing key games for the Scarlets. Bloody typical

And can people stop calling for Georgie to play at centre, he's still learning his trade out on the wing, leave him be mun!

I think most people are calling for North in the centre because Gats has said that he sees him as a potential centre so we will most likely see it very soon

Well I hope not. It could ruin his development. He's still got loads to learn on the wing.

This injury is a shame. I really wanted to see what Wales could do with their full strength squad down under. In the long run though, I guess this could be seen as a great chance to develop some new talent. From what I've seen, I think Beck deserves a chance, but not sure about North in the centre just yet.

12. Beck
13. Williams if he recovers

outside chances are Hook, Hughes, Henson

I'm really worried about this - I can see Gats telling the physio's not to put JD2 under the knife, but to just rehabilitate for a few weeks (missing the rest of the Scarlets season), then he'll give him (and the rest of the squad) intensive training and take him to Oz, where he'll really screw up his hernia playing while injured and be out for 6 months, coming back just in time for the 6N's and only playing maybe 3 games for the Scarlets.

It's what happened to North and a whole load of other Welsh players and why Warbs is out for the season and why most of the Welsh team keep getting injured - Gats player management is awful

With regard to the thread - Beck is an absolute must, then it's a battle between S Williams (likely), Hughes (would be good but unlikely) and Hook (very likely but behind the rest at centre and will mess him about again)

Scott Williams is expected back this weekend, so I would expect him to partner up with Hook, and then have Lloyd Williams, Beck and Byrne on the bench.

I think Liam Williams could challenge Byrne for the bench spot - also think Beck deserves a starting place if Dr Bob and Foxy don't make it. But you're prob right SS, Gats will probably go with that selection

Smirnoffpriest wrote:I think Liam Williams could challenge Byrne for the bench spot - also think Beck deserves a starting place if Dr Bob and Foxy don't make it. But you're prob right SS, Howley will probably go with that selection

Fixed it for you.

ScarletSpiderman wrote:

Smirnoffpriest wrote:I think Liam Williams could challenge Byrne for the bench spot - also think Beck deserves a starting place if Dr Bob and Foxy don't make it. But you're prob right SS, Howley will probably go with that selection

Fixed it for you.

Cheers - but is it just me who gets the impression that Howley just does whatever Gats tells him and that he'll just be phoning up Gats all through the Oz tour asking him who to pick and what to say?

Smirnoff - I do have a feeling that Howley can talk even though Gats is drinking a glass of water, if you get what I mean

Dont think this Tour is the best place to try North out at centre, would be worried if we went for that one as the Aussie back-line is world class, would rather we go with experienced centres, if Jon Davies is fit then i'd pair him with Scott Williams, which would give us the Scarlets midfield, if hes not fit then its out of Hook, Beck or Bishop

Smirnoffpriest wrote:I'm really worried about this - I can see Gats telling the physio's not to put JD2 under the knife, but to just rehabilitate for a few weeks (missing the rest of the Scarlets season), then he'll give him (and the rest of the squad) intensive training and take him to Oz, where he'll really screw up his hernia playing while injured and be out for 6 months, coming back just in time for the 6N's and only playing maybe 3 games for the Scarlets.

It's what happened to North and a whole load of other Welsh players and why Warbs is out for the season and why most of the Welsh team keep getting injured - Gats player management is awful

Agreed i've noticed this trend as well

rugbydreamer wrote:Well I hope not. It could ruin his development. He's still got loads to learn on the wing.

Yes that is because he played all his rugby at centre. Put him in the centre and see him play his natural game. He is on the wing at the Scarlets because you have centres coming out the ying yang.. Three decent inside centres in JD, Williams and Warren and Gareth Maule at outside centre...