Three words to define a nation's rugby character
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Three words to define a nation's rugby character
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It's no surprise to most on here that the different rugby nations play the game in different styles. But can we distill those styles down to an ethos for various countries. I did some research for a comment on another thread this afternoon and stumbled across the "Southern Style" based around the ruck pioneered by Vic Cavanagh Sr and Jr and Charlie Sexton in the 30s, 40s and 50s which flowed into the NZ game as a whole. Sexton defined that ethos as "Position, Possession and Pace" which I think still defines NZ rugby - get field position, get the ball, and run it over the line.
So looking at the major rugby nations (alphabetically), what do people think are the key attributes?
Argentina
Australia
England
France
Ireland
New Zealand - Position, Possession, Pace
Scotland
South Africa
Wales
Some other key words for consideration (please feel free to suggest others)
Flair - Australia, France, Wales
Power - Argentina, England, South Africa
Set-piece
Precision
Unpredictability
Audacity
Pluck
Self-belief
Unity
Planning
Pressure
Defence
Simplicity
etc
I'd like to see if we can get a v2Journal article out of this that distills the collective wisdom of v2.
It's no surprise to most on here that the different rugby nations play the game in different styles. But can we distill those styles down to an ethos for various countries. I did some research for a comment on another thread this afternoon and stumbled across the "Southern Style" based around the ruck pioneered by Vic Cavanagh Sr and Jr and Charlie Sexton in the 30s, 40s and 50s which flowed into the NZ game as a whole. Sexton defined that ethos as "Position, Possession and Pace" which I think still defines NZ rugby - get field position, get the ball, and run it over the line.
So looking at the major rugby nations (alphabetically), what do people think are the key attributes?
Argentina
Australia
England
France
Ireland
New Zealand - Position, Possession, Pace
Scotland
South Africa
Wales
Some other key words for consideration (please feel free to suggest others)
Flair - Australia, France, Wales
Power - Argentina, England, South Africa
Set-piece
Precision
Unpredictability
Audacity
Pluck
Self-belief
Unity
Planning
Pressure
Defence
Simplicity
etc
I'd like to see if we can get a v2Journal article out of this that distills the collective wisdom of v2.
Last edited by Kiwireddevil on Thu May 03, 2012 4:05 am; edited 1 time in total
Pete C (Kiwireddevil)- Posts : 10925
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Re: Three words to define a nation's rugby character
gregor, Personal attack removed - KRD, I'll try to help you.
See?
Now can we get back to constructive stuff instead of this petty tripe
Morgannwg wrote:England - overhyped, overated and overcelebrating.
See?
Now can we get back to constructive stuff instead of this petty tripe
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Re: Three words to define a nation's rugby character
very personal there Morganwy
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Re: Three words to define a nation's rugby character
gregortree wrote:very personal there Morganwy
Don't respond to it mate, it is clear what Morgann is after
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Re: Three words to define a nation's rugby character
Biltong. I took it as a daft wum attempt I was happy to ignore, but thanks anyway
regards, Greg
regards, Greg
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Re: Three words to define a nation's rugby character
biltong, you got me all wrong mate! I commented from an honest perspective. I've watched England rugby for years whilst living in the UK, a country with a very Englandcentric media, which leads to them often overhyping anything and everything to do with the national team.
I do remember the time I wound you up though and as a result you stopped speaking to me for a few days!
I do remember the time I wound you up though and as a result you stopped speaking to me for a few days!
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Re: Three words to define a nation's rugby character
No worries Morgan, perhaps myself and Gregor misread your intentions, if that's the case, then my humble apologies.
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Re: Three words to define a nation's rugby character
I feel the love from here
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Re: Three words to define a nation's rugby character
eirebilly wrote:I feel the love from here
Billy are you feeling better after nobody wanted to laugh with you this morning?
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Re: Three words to define a nation's rugby character
Nah, i just gave up on you ya miserable Saffa
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Re: Three words to define a nation's rugby character
eirebilly wrote:Nah, i just gave up on you ya miserable Saffa
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