The Tree of 6WF

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Following on from TwisTs brilliant tree of WWE here is the first ever tree of 6WF! Please suggest any changes, changes will then be made after each PPV

Level 1 - Cassius, Crime Lord, JJ Johnson, TGA
Level 2 - The Saint, Logan Kincade, Chris Patricks, Marshall Murdoch, Abe Abercorn
Level 3 - Hobo, James McManus, Vortex, Nay Bother, Blue Dragon, Hidari Kenji, Mr. Kenty, Scorpion, Lucas Takeo, Mike Hill, Uryu, Trevor Swann, Chaos, Geoff Steel, Lex Hart
Level 4 - Kenzaki Nogami, Tsukasa Yagurama, Blade, Dragon
Level 5 - Andre Licentia, Andreas Deimos, Javiér Grace
Level 6 - Rasta,

Italics = Currently inactive through "injury"

Up = Red
Down = Blue


Last Edited: 02/10/12

Maybe, I'm not convinced though.

I think he's only just into his big feud. He's been involved in a few multiman matches.

How I think of it is whether it'd be normal to have Uryu vs. Trevor Swann (for example) as a main event of a pay per view. I think Uryu is on the up, but having only just started his first big feud level 1 isn't quite there yet.

In the WWE one, this is level 1: HHH --- Cena --- Undertaker --- Punk --- Rock --- Lesner ---

I'd say Uryu wouldn't be considered at that level within the 6WF universe. If everybody else disagrees I'm happy to move him up.

Also like to reiterate that it's not based on promo ability but just storyline positions.

To add, arguably level 1-ers should have held the world title at some point. I would say that chaos didn't reach level 1 (at least in my mind) until that moment.

i have to agree here i dont think Uryu should be level 1 yet maybe after his big feud with Cassius.

I'm happy to go with the majority but I would argue that this is also based on promo ability as well as feuds because the 2 go hand in hand.

King Beer wrote:I'm happy to go with the majority but I would argue that this is also based on promo ability as well as feuds because the 2 go hand in hand.

But it takes longer for promos to get recognised in storyline terms, somebody could do a month of good promoing and then tail off pretty quickly. Just look at you. (I'm only kidding, please don't take away my world title.)

I'd say Uryu is a solid Level 2, pending Level 1 depending on how his feud with Cassius is booked, and how he comes out of it looking. If Uryu discovers his aggressive side, taking it to Cassius, whilst maintaining his main characteristics that make Uryu Uryu, then he will elevate himself to Level 1. (And I'm talking about in storyline, rather than anything Uryu does in promos per se)

I'd say in his title matches so far, he's been booked as, and has talked himself up as, an outside bet. Once he goes into a title match where he is considered an even competitor to the champion... Then he will be Level 1. And I think he could be at that stage if he comes out of the Cassius feud looking strong.

Should Max Adamson move down considering he's inactive through injury?

I think we'll just take him out until the return.

Crimey wrote:

King Beer wrote:I'm happy to go with the majority but I would argue that this is also based on promo ability as well as feuds because the 2 go hand in hand.

But it takes longer for promos to get recognised in storyline terms, somebody could do a month of good promoing and then tail off pretty quickly. Just look at you. (I'm only kidding, please don't take away my world title.)

Consider it gone!

Beer....

You know I love your promos, right?

Remember that one where I walked away from the confrontation? That was one of my favourites....

Just saying.

I found my favourite against yours the other day!

Which one was that?

I'm wondering if we've been a bit too generous with some people on the tree. Uryu I think is still a level two but.... If level two is mean't to be of the level of Sheamus i.e. can def main event a normal show but probably not a PPV then why on earth is Trevor Swann there. Uryu yes but level 2 should be those in with a chance of challenging for the title sort of Ziggler level perhaps.

well i admit myself that level 2 is best for me at the moment but i do feel kinda like in terms of promo content that me and beer are not quite on the same page yet and that is kinda my fault. if we can actually get working together so well that we know what the other is thinking I think it get me to level 1.

for example this week i portrayed myself as an angry guy in my 1st promo, toned it down due to ED saying he doesnt wanna blow this up and i agreed, only to see myself portrayed as a lonely mouse who won't fight back!

TBH that has kinda thrown me for a loop because everyone disliked my sad depressing promos and I wanted to avoid that. I understand why i'm portrayed like that by beer but what if i write like that this week, only to be portrayed as having 'king of the universe' confidence by beer on the show?

Surely just ask Beer how he is planning to portray you on the show in the next couple of weeks, so you can do the same in your promos? Simples

I already said I am to blame.

Now then.... (JJ style)

I like your promos, if I didn't you wouldn't be where you are, however you have to pace yourself and not go into every feud at 100mph. You have closed the last 2 shows, one of which is a major PPV.

The ending this week wasn't to make you look week, but more of a reflection of how you portray your character in general. When you look at it from a storyline perspective, you've had the week from hell. Not winning the world title, watching Clarissa get shock waved from the stage and then dealing with her surgery. Given the emotional nature of your character the idea is to show that your vulnerable side is what Cassius is exploiting and that you had a breaking point.

You have done a great job considering you had no idea it was coming, but if you need a little nudge in the right direction you can PM me and ask!

Is it because he hasn't been here for a very long time, that Vortex isn't on the same level as is Consultancy allies?

TwisT wrote:Is it because he hasn't been here for a very long time, that Vortex isn't on the same level as is Consultancy allies?

Yeah.

Cool, something to aspire to

Uryu Ishida wrote:I already said I am to blame.

Wouldn't be too hard on yourself I blame the Miz personally

This is due an update.

I reckon it's spot on as it is as of present. Don't know about you guys though...

I would add in Kenty and Team Japan

Although after another look, on current stories, perhaps Patrick's down one level, but that is the slightest of slight suggestions.

I have updated it, if anybody does disagree with any the movements feel free to voice it and I'll update it.

I've removed Max Adamson and Zane Altair.

Thats fine by moi

Blade, Andre Licentia and Javier Garcia need adding please. (3 & 5)

Remove Longinus. Draigeu and Quaide White are the same person, they can go as well.

Also, rather than removing, should we have an alumni section?

Only Blade has debuted out of them though? Unless I missed something?

scorpion to level 3?

This weeks card?

what about this weeks card?
ah right i see Never mind.

Ill stay where i am.

Scorpion to 3 is right. Vortex and Kenty are there.

This needs changing.

Move The Saint down one level?

Swann down.

Add Licentia, Grace, Demios.

Takeo up to 3 maybe?

Are we adding Gold Rush returnees/additions to the list? Hill in at Level 1

Where has Zoot been recently?

I'd agree with all what Mat said (except Takeo should be Level 1 ), and The Saint going down to 2 might be a possibility imo.

Zoot better not have disappeared, especially after how many times he went on about disappearing last time.

James to come off.

Blade and Dragon to Level 4.

Saint to 2.

Uryu to 3.

Traitorelli off.

Swann and Chaos to 3.

Is there a level seven for Lex

You are having the same problem that I am having with the Tree of the 'E.

Namely a level that seems to contain half the roster. I know how hard it is to decide who has made the next level or who has lost their shine after a period of being top ranking. You end up getting this middling level full of names.

For me Saint should be automatically level 1

But is that on past glories or current angles?

Again, it is all relative. I mean I have had Undertaker at level 1 for ages when he has hardly featured. But do you take him down for that, or leave him up there simply because of what he has done in the past?

It is very tricky

TwisT wrote:But is that on past glories or current angles?

Again, it is all relative. I mean I have had Undertaker at level 1 for ages when he has hardly featured. But do you take him down for that, or leave him up there simply because of what he has done in the past?

It is very tricky

I base it on the fact that right now, Saint would main event any PPV if teaming with anyone from Level 1, but i couldn't see Saint v Uryu or Saint v Kenty headlining a PPV and for that reason i would have Saint on level 2.

These things change all the time remember.

I'd still argue that Saint should be level 1, its the same reason that Cassius and JJ would never be anything other than level 1

Gregers wrote:I'd still argue that Saint should be level 1, its the same reason that Cassius and JJ would never be anything other than level 1

But that's down to personal taste.

I personally don't put The Saint on the same level as those 2.

I think Saint can be described as Randy Orton right now. Or even Sheamus.

TwisT wrote:I think Saint can be described as Randy Orton right now. Or even Sheamus.

That's how i see it.

If i needed to throw a big name into a match to get it over, i know i could turn to The Saint. But right now i wouldn't be booking my main event around him.

Given he's "won" feuds against Cassius and JJ in the past year its interesting that you still wouldn't book a main event around him.

How is Takeo level 3 as well? Just interesting given he hasn't really done anything yet.