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The Tree of the WWE
This is a group opinion on how the wwe views its roster (I have not included the Diva's), at the moment, in terms of importance to the company. It is based upon the following criteria:
Level 1 - Vital to the company and PPV headliners with proven drawing ability
Level 2 - Important to the top story lines but cannot main event successfully without it being alongside a Level 1 competitor
Level 3 - Strong upper card / mid carder with regular and logical TV time - appear at all / nearly all PPV's
Level 4 - Solid mid carder with regular TV time and story lines - appear at most PPV's
Level 5 - Mid carders who appear on TV most weeks - occasional PPV appearances
Level 6 - Superstars / lower card talent who may be put into story lines as enhancement talent - get their annual run at the Rumble
Level 7 - Superstars / lower card talent with no obvious story line at present, any TV time will be as a jobber
New additions to roster will automatically go on Level 7 until the next tree alteration.
Based upon current standings, the tree looks like this: (NB:Italics shows inactivity at present).
Level 1: --- HHH --- Cena --- Undertaker --- Punk --- Rock --- Lesner ---
Level 2: --- Sheamus(+1) --- Jericho --- Bryan(+3) --- Orton(-1) --- Big Show
Level 3: --- Barrett(+2) --- Del Rio(-1) --- Kane(+1) --- Rhodes --- Ziggler --- Miz(-1) --- Ryback(+2)
Level 4: --- Mysterio(-1) --- Christian(-1) --- R Truth(-1) --- Kingston(+1) --- Otunga (+1) --- Clay(+2) --- Santino (+2) --- Lord Tensai (-1) --- Cesaro --- Henry(-2)
Level 5: --- Bourne --- Sin Cara --- McIntyre (+1) --- Great Khali --- Slater(+2) --- Epico(+2) --- Primo(+2) --- Swagger(-1) --- Sandow --- Mahal(+2) --- Ryder (-1)
Level 6: --- Jackson --- Ryan(-1) --- Hunico(+1) ---Gabriel (+1) --- Kidd(+1) ---
Level 7: --- Tatsu --- Riley(-1) --- Camacho --- DiBiase(-1) --- Rest of the Roster ---
Future Endeavoured/Taken out of active roster:
John Morrison (highest ranking was Level 5)
Kevin Nash (still under contract, however no plans to return. Highest rank was Level 2)
Booker T (back to commentary duties)
Tyler Reks (highest ranking was Level 7)
Please feel free to comment on standings within the tree. More than 3 votes constitutes a change in standing.
I will be updating the tree based on comments after each PPV. The tree will be based upon the time leading to that PPV in question, and the PPV results itself. Therefore, you can comment on standings at anytime and the opinions will be counted after that PPV and any changes made will be done a few days after.
Next Edit will be after: Next PPV
Level 1 - Vital to the company and PPV headliners with proven drawing ability
Level 2 - Important to the top story lines but cannot main event successfully without it being alongside a Level 1 competitor
Level 3 - Strong upper card / mid carder with regular and logical TV time - appear at all / nearly all PPV's
Level 4 - Solid mid carder with regular TV time and story lines - appear at most PPV's
Level 5 - Mid carders who appear on TV most weeks - occasional PPV appearances
Level 6 - Superstars / lower card talent who may be put into story lines as enhancement talent - get their annual run at the Rumble
Level 7 - Superstars / lower card talent with no obvious story line at present, any TV time will be as a jobber
New additions to roster will automatically go on Level 7 until the next tree alteration.
Based upon current standings, the tree looks like this: (NB:Italics shows inactivity at present).
Level 1: --- HHH --- Cena --- Undertaker --- Punk --- Rock --- Lesner ---
Level 2: --- Sheamus(+1) --- Jericho --- Bryan(+3) --- Orton(-1) --- Big Show
Level 3: --- Barrett(+2) --- Del Rio(-1) --- Kane(+1) --- Rhodes --- Ziggler --- Miz(-1) --- Ryback(+2)
Level 4: --- Mysterio(-1) --- Christian(-1) --- R Truth(-1) --- Kingston(+1) --- Otunga (+1) --- Clay(+2) --- Santino (+2) --- Lord Tensai (-1) --- Cesaro --- Henry(-2)
Level 5: --- Bourne --- Sin Cara --- McIntyre (+1) --- Great Khali --- Slater(+2) --- Epico(+2) --- Primo(+2) --- Swagger(-1) --- Sandow --- Mahal(+2) --- Ryder (-1)
Level 6: --- Jackson --- Ryan(-1) --- Hunico(+1) ---Gabriel (+1) --- Kidd(+1) ---
Level 7: --- Tatsu --- Riley(-1) --- Camacho --- DiBiase(-1) --- Rest of the Roster ---
Future Endeavoured/Taken out of active roster:
John Morrison (highest ranking was Level 5)
Kevin Nash (still under contract, however no plans to return. Highest rank was Level 2)
Booker T (back to commentary duties)
Tyler Reks (highest ranking was Level 7)
Please feel free to comment on standings within the tree. More than 3 votes constitutes a change in standing.
I will be updating the tree based on comments after each PPV. The tree will be based upon the time leading to that PPV in question, and the PPV results itself. Therefore, you can comment on standings at anytime and the opinions will be counted after that PPV and any changes made will be done a few days after.
Next Edit will be after: Next PPV
Last edited by TwisT on Tue 06 Nov 2012, 9:47 am; edited 33 times in total
TwisT- Posts : 17835
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
I think Barrett will be up to level 2 by rr 2012
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Based on him getting a lot of mic time and the commentators talking him up. Barrett would be above Ryder Kane and Swagger wouldn't he?
Re: The Tree of the WWE
Feel free to list more suggestions guys. The current tree will be altered a few days after Survivor Series, so people can comment on the card. It will show the previous months activities and the Survivor Series results itself.
So if you think someone is too high or too low based upon what has been going on in the WWE for the past few weeks, then please give us your opinions.
Also, I have added Hunico, Epico and Primo onto Level 7 until the next tree change.
Greggers....I think you are right (remember he had been pretty much unseen for weeks beforehand, hence his low ranking). Anyone else agree? Who else needs to move?
So if you think someone is too high or too low based upon what has been going on in the WWE for the past few weeks, then please give us your opinions.
Also, I have added Hunico, Epico and Primo onto Level 7 until the next tree change.
Greggers....I think you are right (remember he had been pretty much unseen for weeks beforehand, hence his low ranking). Anyone else agree? Who else needs to move?
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
I can't even remember the last time A-Ri was on TV! I think it may have been the sandbag incident with swagger, if he doesn't feature before or at SS which is very unlikely then he should prob be moved down.
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
After the survivor series results, can you please place who you believe should be moved up or down.
This is based upon the previous weeks and the Survivor Series results themselves.
Remember.....its is about where you see them in the standings as of NOW and not what they should/could be in the future.
Cheers
Twisty
This is based upon the previous weeks and the Survivor Series results themselves.
Remember.....its is about where you see them in the standings as of NOW and not what they should/could be in the future.
Cheers
Twisty
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Firstly I'd say Barrett jumps out as a candidate to go up a level or two, maybe to three, but at least four.
I'd also wonder whether Sheamus could be bumped up to level two.
Other than that I don't disagree with anything -- although I imagine you could make a case to include The Rock now? Level one, obviously.
I'd also wonder whether Sheamus could be bumped up to level two.
Other than that I don't disagree with anything -- although I imagine you could make a case to include The Rock now? Level one, obviously.
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
I would have Barrett at 3, and Sheamus at 2. I would say Ziggler and Rhodes are both between 3 and 2 at the moment, so a case could be made for either.
Nice idea!
Nice idea!
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
I'd say Barrett goes up to 3
Ziggler goes up to 2
Sheamus goes up to 2
Del Rio down to 3
Ziggler goes up to 2
Sheamus goes up to 2
Del Rio down to 3
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Anymore opinions?
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
morrison to level 5
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Mostly agree with others on this:
Ziggler 2
Barrett 3
del Rio 3
Morrison 5
I'd keep Sheamus and Rhodes where they are... for now.
Ziggler 2
Barrett 3
del Rio 3
Morrison 5
I'd keep Sheamus and Rhodes where they are... for now.
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Barrett to Level 3
Del Rio to Level 3
Big Show to Level 3
Sin Cara Inactive
Mason Ryan to Level 5
Hunico to Level 6
Sheamus to Level 2
Del Rio to Level 3
Big Show to Level 3
Sin Cara Inactive
Mason Ryan to Level 5
Hunico to Level 6
Sheamus to Level 2
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
i have made the changes, and highlighted the new inactives.
Thank you for your feedback
Next change will be after the TLC ppv
Thank you for your feedback
Next change will be after the TLC ppv
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
After the amazing goings-on at TLC, there seems to be a change in the air about the WWE. I know two individuals that certainly need moving up! Booker T has also been added to the Tree, and the inactives updated.
What do you think guys? You deserves to go up and who deserves to go down?
What do you think guys? You deserves to go up and who deserves to go down?
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Kane and Bryan i think needs moving up
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
I actually can't see any changes in my opinion Twist!
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Nash inactive and moved down to level 3
Rhodes moved up to level 2
Kane moved up to level 3, if not level 2
Ryder moved up to level 3
Bryan moved up to level 3, if he holds his title past the rumble then possibly level 2
Ryan moved down to level 6
Kidd added to level 7
Brodus Clay is inactive atm
Primo and Epico moved up to level 5
Gabriel to level 6
Rhodes moved up to level 2
Kane moved up to level 3, if not level 2
Ryder moved up to level 3
Bryan moved up to level 3, if he holds his title past the rumble then possibly level 2
Ryan moved down to level 6
Kidd added to level 7
Brodus Clay is inactive atm
Primo and Epico moved up to level 5
Gabriel to level 6
Re: The Tree of the WWE
I think most of Gregers' moves are movements for movement's sake. I agree with the Bryan move to 3, and the Ryan move down to 6. I think Primo & Epico are borderline 5/6, and would lean toward 6 until they string a couple more weeks of TV time together. I wouldn't move Nash, Rhodes, Kane (yet), or Ryder at all. What has Gabriel done to move up?
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Gabriel is featuring regularly on Smackdown now, by the definitions that puts him level 6
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I see him as a "lower card talent with no obvious story line at present, any TV time will be as a jobber", but I generally FF whenever he's on so might've missed him winning a fight or two.
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Surely Miz and Del Rio have to be in 1 or 2, they have been involved in every major story line and main evented almost all PPV's between the 2 of them since early summer.
Definitely more so than Rhodes and Ziggler who are yet to main event any PPV and are barely involved in the main storyline.... so by simple definition they should be switched.
Definitely more so than Rhodes and Ziggler who are yet to main event any PPV and are barely involved in the main storyline.... so by simple definition they should be switched.
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Barrett, Del Rio and Miz up to 2.
Ziggler and Rhodes down to 3.
Mysterio, Truth and Christian up to 3.
Hunico up to 5.
Ryan down to 7.
Ziggler and Rhodes down to 3.
Mysterio, Truth and Christian up to 3.
Hunico up to 5.
Ryan down to 7.
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
I think Slater has been on enough Smackdown's in a row to be a Level 6er now
Reks, Tatsu and Kidd are all B-Show talent. Booker is a commentator. Slater is a Smackdown regular!
Reks, Tatsu and Kidd are all B-Show talent. Booker is a commentator. Slater is a Smackdown regular!
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Chavo was a RAW regular who also happened to be in a program with Hornswoggle, we all know what happened to him
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
He was a mouth though.
I think Heath can't be in the bottom grouping if he is on TV every single week (proper TV - not Superstars or NXT)
I think Heath can't be in the bottom grouping if he is on TV every single week (proper TV - not Superstars or NXT)
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
He's a jobber though, you'd not put Iron Mike Sharpe in anything other than the bottom group back in 1991 yet he was on TV week in week out just llosing to everyone
I don't think losing is that important so long as you have a story that's going placers, if you do then it's ok, if not you're just jobbing for comic humour
This story ain't taking him places, or at least not in the right direction anyway
I don't think losing is that important so long as you have a story that's going placers, if you do then it's ok, if not you're just jobbing for comic humour
This story ain't taking him places, or at least not in the right direction anyway
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
He's going to have a feud with Gabriel!
He's not a jobber.
He's not a jobber.
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Taking everything on board as usual. Next change will be after the next PPV (Rumble?). Let us see what the lead up is to that, and the aftermath of the event.
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Now that the Rumble has happened, who should move up or down
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
I don't even have a case.
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Possible changes post rumble:
Bryan and Show up to level 2
Swagger up to level 3
Clay up to level 4 or 5
Ryan down to level 6
DiBiase up to level 5
McIntyre added to level 7 (or maybe 6, he is getting regular TV time)
R-Truth up to level 3
Bryan and Show up to level 2
Swagger up to level 3
Clay up to level 4 or 5
Ryan down to level 6
DiBiase up to level 5
McIntyre added to level 7 (or maybe 6, he is getting regular TV time)
R-Truth up to level 3
Re: The Tree of the WWE
Ahhhh man, come on don't be like that. At least do it for me. I have 4 months worth of data that I will put up in October. It is a pet project of mine.
I think Jericho and Clay needs to move up.....Ryan/Bourne needs to move down. Miz and Del Rio move down one. And Nash taken out entirely.
Thoughts?
I think Jericho and Clay needs to move up.....Ryan/Bourne needs to move down. Miz and Del Rio move down one. And Nash taken out entirely.
Thoughts?
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Id put Rhodes down one, and Bryan and Kane up to Level 2
Nash down to Level 4 (or maybe even lower)
Nash down to Level 4 (or maybe even lower)
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
I'd leave Miz where he is for now TwisT, he's an upper midcarder in a hot(ish) feud and did well in the rumble.
Jericho needs to be level 1 or 2 in my opinion, possibly 1 as he is a proven main eventer
Jericho needs to be level 1 or 2 in my opinion, possibly 1 as he is a proven main eventer
Re: The Tree of the WWE
Jericho's not actually in a storyline yet, so I think he should stay where he is.
Unless you count his video - which still makes no sense
Or is "end of the world" - which as yet makes no sense
Until either is explained, and proved to be at all relevant, I don't think he's any higher
Unless you count his video - which still makes no sense
Or is "end of the world" - which as yet makes no sense
Until either is explained, and proved to be at all relevant, I don't think he's any higher
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Cheers guys. Really would like more feedback from other people (without pestering them about it). Try and get a clearer indication of peoples thoughts.
Since October, Bryan and Barrett have both gone up 2 levels. Hopefully as the months pass we will have more fluctuations
Since October, Bryan and Barrett have both gone up 2 levels. Hopefully as the months pass we will have more fluctuations
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Clay and Miz up a level, Rhodes and Ziggler down.
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Drew MacIntosh to level 6 due to his minor story line involvement. Mason Ryan and Alex Riley should be level 7 now. Although he has the heat of a snowball, Mahal should probably be up to level 6.
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Interesting that only one of our "Level 1" wrestlers was involved in the Rumble...
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Changes made......next update after Elimination Chamber
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
Think Wade and Cody need a switch.
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
I also think Kingston deserves to go up a level.
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Re: The Tree of the WWE
As much as it pains me to say it Mahal needs to go up at least 1 level. He's on tv almost every week.
Khali needs to go into level 3
Khali needs to go into level 3
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Rhodes down one.
Barrett up one.
The Miz up one due to past achievements and how even though he is currently floating in upper mid card he can main event at the drop of a dime.
Kingston up one.
Nash and Booker T tooken off completely.
Ryder down one.
Riley down one.
Mahal up one.
Epico and Primo should be on the same level?
On a side note, could anyone see Sheamus on level 1 by the end of the year if he is continued to be booked as strong as he is, wins the title at Mania and has a 3 month plus reign.
Barrett up one.
The Miz up one due to past achievements and how even though he is currently floating in upper mid card he can main event at the drop of a dime.
Kingston up one.
Nash and Booker T tooken off completely.
Ryder down one.
Riley down one.
Mahal up one.
Epico and Primo should be on the same level?
On a side note, could anyone see Sheamus on level 1 by the end of the year if he is continued to be booked as strong as he is, wins the title at Mania and has a 3 month plus reign.
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Post EC:
Miz back up to level 2
Clay possibly italicised as inactive
Santino up to level 3 or 4
Otunga up to 4
Mahal up one level
Khali added
Miz back up to level 2
Clay possibly italicised as inactive
Santino up to level 3 or 4
Otunga up to 4
Mahal up one level
Khali added
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I think Christian is a #3 guy, could be a level two guy but for me he epitomises exactly what you wrote in the OP about level 3
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