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Post by TwisT Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:25 pm

This is a group opinion on how the wwe views its roster (I have not included the Diva's), at the moment, in terms of importance to the company. It is based upon the following criteria:

Level 1 - Vital to the company and PPV headliners with proven drawing ability
Level 2 - Important to the top story lines but cannot main event successfully without it being alongside a Level 1 competitor
Level 3 - Strong upper card / mid carder with regular and logical TV time - appear at all / nearly all PPV's
Level 4 - Solid mid carder with regular TV time and story lines - appear at most PPV's
Level 5 - Mid carders who appear on TV most weeks - occasional PPV appearances
Level 6 - Superstars / lower card talent who may be put into story lines as enhancement talent - get their annual run at the Rumble
Level 7 - Superstars / lower card talent with no obvious story line at present, any TV time will be as a jobber

New additions to roster will automatically go on Level 7 until the next tree alteration.

Based upon current standings, the tree looks like this: (NB:Italics shows inactivity at present).

Level 1: --- HHH --- Cena --- Undertaker --- Punk --- Rock --- Lesner ---

Level 2: --- Sheamus(+1) --- Jericho --- Bryan(+3) --- Orton(-1) --- Big Show

Level 3: --- Barrett(+2) --- Del Rio(-1) --- Kane(+1) --- Rhodes --- Ziggler --- Miz(-1) --- Ryback(+2)

Level 4: --- Mysterio(-1) --- Christian(-1) --- R Truth(-1) --- Kingston(+1) --- Otunga (+1) --- Clay(+2) --- Santino (+2) --- Lord Tensai (-1) --- Cesaro --- Henry(-2)

Level 5: --- Bourne --- Sin Cara --- McIntyre (+1) --- Great Khali --- Slater(+2) --- Epico(+2) --- Primo(+2) --- Swagger(-1) --- Sandow --- Mahal(+2) --- Ryder (-1)

Level 6: --- Jackson --- Ryan(-1) --- Hunico(+1) ---Gabriel (+1) --- Kidd(+1) ---

Level 7: --- Tatsu --- Riley(-1) --- Camacho --- DiBiase(-1) --- Rest of the Roster ---


Future Endeavoured/Taken out of active roster:
John Morrison (highest ranking was Level 5)
Kevin Nash (still under contract, however no plans to return. Highest rank was Level 2)
Booker T (back to commentary duties)
Tyler Reks (highest ranking was Level 7)

Please feel free to comment on standings within the tree. More than 3 votes constitutes a change in standing.

I will be updating the tree based on comments after each PPV. The tree will be based upon the time leading to that PPV in question, and the PPV results itself. Therefore, you can comment on standings at anytime and the opinions will be counted after that PPV and any changes made will be done a few days after.

Next Edit will be after: Next PPV


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Post by TopoftheChops Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:13 pm

I think Barrett will be up to level 2 by rr 2012

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Post by Gregers Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:22 pm

Based on him getting a lot of mic time and the commentators talking him up. Barrett would be above Ryder Kane and Swagger wouldn't he?

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Post by TwisT Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:13 am

Feel free to list more suggestions guys. The current tree will be altered a few days after Survivor Series, so people can comment on the card. It will show the previous months activities and the Survivor Series results itself.

So if you think someone is too high or too low based upon what has been going on in the WWE for the past few weeks, then please give us your opinions.

Also, I have added Hunico, Epico and Primo onto Level 7 until the next tree change.

Greggers....I think you are right (remember he had been pretty much unseen for weeks beforehand, hence his low ranking). Anyone else agree? Who else needs to move?

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Post by MtotheC Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:21 pm

I can't even remember the last time A-Ri was on TV! I think it may have been the sandbag incident with swagger, if he doesn't feature before or at SS which is very unlikely then he should prob be moved down.

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Post by TwisT Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:33 am

After the survivor series results, can you please place who you believe should be moved up or down.

This is based upon the previous weeks and the Survivor Series results themselves.

Remember.....its is about where you see them in the standings as of NOW and not what they should/could be in the future.

Cheers

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Post by sodhat Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:45 am

Firstly I'd say Barrett jumps out as a candidate to go up a level or two, maybe to three, but at least four.

I'd also wonder whether Sheamus could be bumped up to level two.

Other than that I don't disagree with anything -- although I imagine you could make a case to include The Rock now? Level one, obviously.

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Post by theanimal316 Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:00 pm

I would have Barrett at 3, and Sheamus at 2. I would say Ziggler and Rhodes are both between 3 and 2 at the moment, so a case could be made for either.

Nice idea!

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Post by Kay Fabe Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:39 pm

I'd say Barrett goes up to 3
Ziggler goes up to 2
Sheamus goes up to 2
Del Rio down to 3

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Post by TwisT Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:39 am

Anymore opinions?

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Post by TopoftheChops Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:37 pm

morrison to level 5

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Post by Statto00 Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:14 pm

Mostly agree with others on this:
Ziggler 2
Barrett 3
del Rio 3
Morrison 5

I'd keep Sheamus and Rhodes where they are... for now.

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Post by JoshSansom Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:18 pm

Barrett to Level 3
Del Rio to Level 3
Big Show to Level 3
Sin Cara Inactive
Mason Ryan to Level 5
Hunico to Level 6
Sheamus to Level 2

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Post by TwisT Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:37 pm

i have made the changes, and highlighted the new inactives.

Thank you for your feedback thumbsup

Next change will be after the TLC ppv

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Post by TwisT Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:06 am

After the amazing goings-on at TLC, there seems to be a change in the air about the WWE. I know two individuals that certainly need moving up! Booker T has also been added to the Tree, and the inactives updated.

What do you think guys? You deserves to go up and who deserves to go down?

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Post by TwisT Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:18 am

Anybody? Crying or Very sad

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Post by Bull Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:20 am

Kane and Bryan i think needs moving up

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Post by sodhat Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:21 am

I actually can't see any changes in my opinion Twist!

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Post by Gregers Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:24 am

Nash inactive and moved down to level 3

Rhodes moved up to level 2

Kane moved up to level 3, if not level 2

Ryder moved up to level 3

Bryan moved up to level 3, if he holds his title past the rumble then possibly level 2

Ryan moved down to level 6

Kidd added to level 7

Brodus Clay is inactive atm

Primo and Epico moved up to level 5

Gabriel to level 6

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Post by Statto00 Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:26 pm

I think most of Gregers' moves are movements for movement's sake. I agree with the Bryan move to 3, and the Ryan move down to 6. I think Primo & Epico are borderline 5/6, and would lean toward 6 until they string a couple more weeks of TV time together. I wouldn't move Nash, Rhodes, Kane (yet), or Ryder at all. What has Gabriel done to move up?

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Post by Gregers Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:58 pm

Gabriel is featuring regularly on Smackdown now, by the definitions that puts him level 6

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Post by Statto00 Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:33 pm

I see him as a "lower card talent with no obvious story line at present, any TV time will be as a jobber", but I generally FF whenever he's on so might've missed him winning a fight or two.

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Post by TwisT Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:50 pm

Changes made

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Post by alanqlm Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:22 pm

Surely Miz and Del Rio have to be in 1 or 2, they have been involved in every major story line and main evented almost all PPV's between the 2 of them since early summer.

Definitely more so than Rhodes and Ziggler who are yet to main event any PPV and are barely involved in the main storyline.... so by simple definition they should be switched.

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Post by BloscarPit09-ASK_HIM Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:52 pm

Barrett, Del Rio and Miz up to 2.
Ziggler and Rhodes down to 3.
Mysterio, Truth and Christian up to 3.
Hunico up to 5.
Ryan down to 7.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:46 am

I think Slater has been on enough Smackdown's in a row to be a Level 6er now

Reks, Tatsu and Kidd are all B-Show talent. Booker is a commentator. Slater is a Smackdown regular!

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Post by Kay Fabe Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:46 am

Chavo was a RAW regular who also happened to be in a program with Hornswoggle, we all know what happened to him

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:47 am

He was a mouth though.

I think Heath can't be in the bottom grouping if he is on TV every single week (proper TV - not Superstars or NXT)

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Post by Kay Fabe Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:54 am

He's a jobber though, you'd not put Iron Mike Sharpe in anything other than the bottom group back in 1991 yet he was on TV week in week out just llosing to everyone

I don't think losing is that important so long as you have a story that's going placers, if you do then it's ok, if not you're just jobbing for comic humour

This story ain't taking him places, or at least not in the right direction anyway

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:55 am

He's going to have a feud with Gabriel!

He's not a jobber.

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Post by TwisT Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:34 am

Taking everything on board as usual. Next change will be after the next PPV (Rumble?). Let us see what the lead up is to that, and the aftermath of the event.

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Post by TwisT Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:31 pm

Now that the Rumble has happened, who should move up or down

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:31 pm

I don't even have a case.

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Post by Gregers Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:32 pm

Possible changes post rumble:

Bryan and Show up to level 2
Swagger up to level 3
Clay up to level 4 or 5
Ryan down to level 6
DiBiase up to level 5
McIntyre added to level 7 (or maybe 6, he is getting regular TV time)
R-Truth up to level 3

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Post by TwisT Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:35 pm

Ahhhh man, come on don't be like that. At least do it for me. I have 4 months worth of data that I will put up in October. It is a pet project of mine.

I think Jericho and Clay needs to move up.....Ryan/Bourne needs to move down. Miz and Del Rio move down one. And Nash taken out entirely.

Thoughts?

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:37 pm

Id put Rhodes down one, and Bryan and Kane up to Level 2
Nash down to Level 4 (or maybe even lower)


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Post by Gregers Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:37 pm

I'd leave Miz where he is for now TwisT, he's an upper midcarder in a hot(ish) feud and did well in the rumble.

Jericho needs to be level 1 or 2 in my opinion, possibly 1 as he is a proven main eventer

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:39 pm

Jericho's not actually in a storyline yet, so I think he should stay where he is.

Unless you count his video - which still makes no sense
Or is "end of the world" - which as yet makes no sense

Until either is explained, and proved to be at all relevant, I don't think he's any higher

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Post by TwisT Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:44 pm

Cheers guys. Really would like more feedback from other people (without pestering them about it). Try and get a clearer indication of peoples thoughts.

Since October, Bryan and Barrett have both gone up 2 levels. Hopefully as the months pass we will have more fluctuations

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Post by Ent Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:01 pm

Clay and Miz up a level, Rhodes and Ziggler down.

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Post by ramjam Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:15 pm

Drew MacIntosh to level 6 due to his minor story line involvement. Mason Ryan and Alex Riley should be level 7 now. Although he has the heat of a snowball, Mahal should probably be up to level 6.

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Post by Statto00 Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:28 pm

Interesting that only one of our "Level 1" wrestlers was involved in the Rumble...

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Post by TwisT Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:04 am

Changes made......next update after Elimination Chamber

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Post by A Fine Folk. Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:12 pm

Think Wade and Cody need a switch.

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Post by A Fine Folk. Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:17 pm

I also think Kingston deserves to go up a level.

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Post by Gregers Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:42 pm

As much as it pains me to say it Mahal needs to go up at least 1 level. He's on tv almost every week.

Khali needs to go into level 3

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Post by Dx Dan. Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:46 pm

Rhodes down one.
Barrett up one.
The Miz up one due to past achievements and how even though he is currently floating in upper mid card he can main event at the drop of a dime.
Kingston up one.
Nash and Booker T tooken off completely.
Ryder down one.
Riley down one.
Mahal up one.
Epico and Primo should be on the same level?

On a side note, could anyone see Sheamus on level 1 by the end of the year if he is continued to be booked as strong as he is, wins the title at Mania and has a 3 month plus reign.

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Post by Gregers Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:07 pm

Yes yes I could

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Post by Gregers Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:40 pm

Post EC:

Miz back up to level 2
Clay possibly italicised as inactive
Santino up to level 3 or 4
Otunga up to 4
Mahal up one level
Khali added

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Post by Kay Fabe Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:43 pm

I think Christian is a #3 guy, could be a level two guy but for me he epitomises exactly what you wrote in the OP about level 3

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