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Post by The genius of PBF Tue May 08, 2012 5:32 am

http://www.fighthype.com/news/article12368.html

If true this is why boxing needs the best testing!

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Post by hampo17 Tue May 08, 2012 7:02 am

Peterson has failed the test and according to SSN they think it's something he took befor the last fight!

Unified junior welterweight titlist Lamont Peterson, due to face Amir Khan in a much anticipated rematch on May 19 at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, has tested positive for a banned substance, putting the fight in jeopardy.

According to a source with knowledge of the situation, Peterson tested positive for synthetic testosterone following a random test in March. It is unclear why the result is just coming to light.

Ironically, it was Peterson who asked for Khan to under go random blood and urine testing leading up to their HBO-televised main event.

They contracted with the Las Vegas-based Voluntary Anti-Doping Association, whose president is Dr. Margaret Goodman, a former Nevada State Athletic Commission ringside physician. The organization's vice president is Dr. Edwin "Flip" Homansky, who also is a former NSAC ringside physician and member of the commission.

Jeff Fried, Peterson's attorney, acknowledged the positive test, on Monday night.

"We have tremendous respect for VADA and its mission," Fried said in a statement to ESPN.com. "Lamont, (trainer/manager) Barry (Hunter) and the entire team emphatically support random drug testing in the most comprehensive manner possible. We are working expeditiously with a team of pathologists and other medical specialists to confirm the origin of the test result and in full compliance with the rules of the Nevada Athletic Commission.

"Lamont has never had a positive test either before or after this isolated occurrence and we plan to submit the medical findings by close of business Tuesday reflecting the actual facts in support of Lamont's good faith intentions and the requirements of the commission."

The Khan team was not available to comment, but another source with direct knowledge of the situation told ESPN.com that after promoter Golden Boy was informed of the positive test, it notified Khan's father, Shah Khan, on Monday.

"At this point in the process, I think it would be inappropriate for me to discuss the matter with the media," Goodman said.

Peterson (30-1-1, 15 KOs) and Khan (26-2, 18 KOs), of England, waged one of the best fights of 2011 in Peterson's hometown of Washington, D.C. Peterson won a split decision in the Dec. 10 showdown, claiming two titles in a fight that ended in a storm of controversy.

Khan was docked two points in questionable calls by referee Joe Cooper for pushing, a call rarely made. Khan complained that Cooper never warned Peterson for leading with his head. Golden Boy also raised questions about judge George Hill's scoring of the seventh round, which appeared to read 10-10 on the scorecard but was crossed out to read 10-8 in Peterson's favor.

And there was the was the much-publicized issue of the so-called ringside "mystery man" at ringside, who turned out to be Mustafa Ameen, who is affiliated with the IBF and had a credential arranged as a courtesy from the organization, but was not at the fight in an official capacity. However, he was seen on video at ringside apparently touching the scoring slips, which is against the rules, and distracting a judge. He was later seen in the ring apparently celebrating with the Peterson team after the fight.

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Post by School Project Tue May 08, 2012 8:33 am

He was spiked by Roach and his evil druggy mates.

It's a conspiracy.

Joking aside, if he was doped up? We're not going to hear the end if it!

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Post by kevchadders Tue May 08, 2012 8:41 am

Regardless wether he ws on drugs when they last fought it will take the shine away from that performance.

With that said, the fight is less than 2 weeks aways so could it still go ahead? If so, will it still be Peterson or will Khan get a replacement.

Finally if he does get a replacement, could they strip Peterson of the title by then and have Amir fight someone else for the belts?

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Post by bellchees Tue May 08, 2012 8:43 am

Surely it will be made a No Contest if this is true and Khan will get his belts back.

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Post by School Project Tue May 08, 2012 10:08 am

bellchees wrote:Surely it will be made a No Contest if this is true and Khan will get his belts back.

You'd be surprised. A number of boxers have tested positive after fights but the records remain the same. I'm not sure how long after Mosely tested positive after the ODLH fight but unless they are tested positive right after the fight I don't think there's much chance of having the decision overturned.

Sad really.

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Post by azania Tue May 08, 2012 11:24 am

Their first fight cant be made a ND as there was no proof LP was juicing. But I'm sure team Khan will make a meal out of it.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Tue May 08, 2012 12:59 pm

Why would he only juice up for the rematch if he knew he had a clean victory in the first fight?

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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue May 08, 2012 1:00 pm

So, this is why he was able to walk through Khan then.


http://www.boxingscene.com/team-khan-shocked-with-peterson-testing-positive--52650



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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Tue May 08, 2012 1:06 pm

Most prob weed, second hand smoke.

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Post by Union Cane Tue May 08, 2012 1:06 pm

I'll merge this, if that's ok Sean?
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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue May 08, 2012 1:06 pm

Yes of course Union. Sorry guys.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue May 08, 2012 1:14 pm

Thi sis awful if it is true. Peterson is such a :street kid done good" story too. If he is a cheat he better get banned. The figth will go ahead as Khan wants it and HBO have invested in it. Hope Khan batters him if it is true and then Peterson can blow up to 154 and fight Margarito in the battle of the scum. That said, if it is some mess up, then I take it all back. But seems unlikely.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Tue May 08, 2012 1:23 pm

Both samples came back positive so it's unlikely to be incorrect. And i don't think you can inhale second hand synthetic testosterone.

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Post by azania Tue May 08, 2012 1:33 pm

I wonder who the irrational Khan haters would want to win (if the fight goes ahead)? A cheat or Khan? I reckon there's some serious hand wronging going on.

That said, there's no evidence LP was juiced in their first fight. As for walking thru Khan's punches, so what? Many have done so before. Its not like Khan is a serious puncher.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue May 08, 2012 1:43 pm

azania wrote:I wonder who the irrational Khan haters would want to win (if the fight goes ahead)? A cheat or Khan? I reckon there's some serious hand wronging going on.

That said, there's no evidence LP was juiced in their first fight. As for walking thru Khan's punches, so what? Many have done so before. Its not like Khan is a serious puncher.

Well i think it is significant. Peterson was not that "tough" before, and this is a factor. Also he wa huge at the weight int he Khan fight. just saying. It may have been a factor, what with him testing positive the very next fight.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Tue May 08, 2012 1:46 pm

azania wrote:I wonder who the irrational Khan haters would want to win (if the fight goes ahead)? A cheat or Khan? I reckon there's some serious hand wronging going on.

That said, there's no evidence LP was juiced in their first fight. As for walking thru Khan's punches, so what? Many have done so before. Its not like Khan is a serious puncher.

But Bradley is considered a lesser puncher in comparison to Khan and he dropped, rocked and stopped peterson in his tracks on numerous occasions.

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Post by azania Tue May 08, 2012 1:47 pm

We have to wait and see. He may have a medical issue that produces abnormal readings. Cancer is one I believe or the early stages of cancer. Lets hope not.

As to his weight, he was only a couple of pounds heavier after rehydrating. Hardly huge. And Khan is not that big a puncher. Those pitter patter punchesin bunches he throws wouldn't deter the better fighters in the division.

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Post by azania Tue May 08, 2012 1:48 pm

Bradley connected better and on the chin. He is an accurate puncher.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Tue May 08, 2012 1:49 pm

according to the commentary Peterson came in at 155, that's hardly a few pounds and I was under the impression that the human body couldn't produce synthetic testosterone


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Post by azania Tue May 08, 2012 1:49 pm

My bad. Its synthetic testerone. That's not natural.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue May 08, 2012 1:54 pm

azania wrote:We have to wait and see. He may have a medical issue that produces abnormal readings. Cancer is one I believe or the early stages of cancer. Lets hope not.

As to his weight, he was only a couple of pounds heavier after rehydrating. Hardly huge. And Khan is not that big a puncher. Those pitter patter punchesin bunches he throws wouldn't deter the better fighters in the division.

Yeah ok

it wasn't a couple of poounds and you are ignoring the fact that Peterson has never been a walk through em type of fighter. Not saying he was on PED's in the first fight, but there is cause for suspicion. Not in your mind though, obviously.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Tue May 08, 2012 1:56 pm

Any opinions on Carson Jones stepping in as a replacement? If i was Khan I'd be looking for a 140lber.

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Post by J.Benson II Tue May 08, 2012 1:57 pm

Most probably Test Prop which is water based.
Peterson isnt the only one juicing. There are several well known boxers that I suspect are possibly using PED's.

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Post by azania Tue May 08, 2012 2:00 pm

Seanusarrilius wrote:
azania wrote:We have to wait and see. He may have a medical issue that produces abnormal readings. Cancer is one I believe or the early stages of cancer. Lets hope not.

As to his weight, he was only a couple of pounds heavier after rehydrating. Hardly huge. And Khan is not that big a puncher. Those pitter patter punchesin bunches he throws wouldn't deter the better fighters in the division.

Yeah ok

it wasn't a couple of poounds and you are ignoring the fact that Peterson has never been a walk through em type of fighter. Not saying he was on PED's in the first fight, but there is cause for suspicion. Not in your mind though, obviously.

I beleive it was a couple of pounds. Probably 1lb is mempry serves me right. Of course there is cause for suspiscion. Where have I said there wasn't? What I did say is that there is no proof that he juiced in their first fight and as such is cannot be declared a ND.

Just because he walked thru Khan's light flurried didn't mean he was juicing. That is not proof no matter how you decide to spin it.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Tue May 08, 2012 2:03 pm

Your memory is wrong. HBO tale of the tape had Khan at 149 and Peterson at 155.

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Post by azania Tue May 08, 2012 2:06 pm

Fair enough. Still not evidence he was on gear. That type of weight drain if it were juice induced would mean he was on diuretics (spelling) not testerone.

Didn't Ortiz come in at SMW against Floyd and Berto?

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Post by OasisBFC Tue May 08, 2012 2:11 pm

azania wrote:Bradley connected better and on the chin. He is an accurate puncher.

thats all you need to know. its not all about the power, its about timing and technique.

and anyway, since when did taking substances improve your punch resistance?

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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue May 08, 2012 2:12 pm

azania wrote:Fair enough. Still not evidence he was on gear. That type of weight drain if it were juice induced would mean he was on diuretics (spelling) not testerone.

Didn't Ortiz come in at SMW against Floyd and Berto?

Yeah, but he took the test v floyd and was negative. Kind of negates your point.


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Post by Pound-for-Pound Tue May 08, 2012 2:12 pm

OasisBFC wrote:
azania wrote:Bradley connected better and on the chin. He is an accurate puncher.

thats all you need to know. its not all about the power, its about timing and technique.

and anyway, since when did taking substances improve your punch resistance?

Wouldn't it strengthen the neck muscles?

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Post by ShahenshahG Tue May 08, 2012 2:15 pm

how muvh did peterson weigh in vs bradley

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Tue May 08, 2012 2:17 pm

ShahenshahG wrote:how muvh did peterson weigh in vs bradley

It wasn't on HBO so nobody weighed them as far as I'm aware.

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Post by Sugar Floyd Louis Tue May 08, 2012 2:18 pm

DAMN! I was looking forward to this fight. Shame really.

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Post by azania Tue May 08, 2012 2:19 pm

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azania wrote:Fair enough. Still not evidence he was on gear. That type of weight drain if it were juice induced would mean he was on diuretics (spelling) not testerone.

Didn't Ortiz come in at SMW against Floyd and Berto?

Yeah, but he took the test v floyd and was negative. Kind of negates your point.

That should read weight gain not drain. Apologies once again. Look at how much weight Ortiz gained against Floyd. More that LP against Khan. Plus he had random testing. There is absolutely zero evidence LP was juicing. High degree os suspiscion but that isn't enough to declare their first fight a ND.


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Post by azania Tue May 08, 2012 2:19 pm

Pound-for-Pound wrote:
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azania wrote:Bradley connected better and on the chin. He is an accurate puncher.

thats all you need to know. its not all about the power, its about timing and technique.

and anyway, since when did taking substances improve your punch resistance?

Wouldn't it strengthen the neck muscles?

If you train your neck muscles it will. Dont know about punch resistance though. Cant put muscles on your chin.


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Post by OasisBFC Tue May 08, 2012 2:21 pm

Pound-for-Pound wrote:
OasisBFC wrote:
azania wrote:Bradley connected better and on the chin. He is an accurate puncher.

thats all you need to know. its not all about the power, its about timing and technique.

and anyway, since when did taking substances improve your punch resistance?

Wouldn't it strengthen the neck muscles?

not to a degree where you can walk through punches you once would have been knocked out from.
apparently 'riods can increase pain threshold though, although this is just internet rubbish posted from people with no medical background so i cant believe it.

until i see an article stating that PEDs can help you take a punch better i wont be swayed. it can help you train harder, faster etc, but ability to take a punch? im not too sure.

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Post by hampo17 Tue May 08, 2012 2:25 pm

Anybody seen any reasons why it took two months for the results to come out?

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Tue May 08, 2012 2:27 pm

Does anybody know how the VADA will have gone about this? Will they have approached Peterson immediately following the positive results to get another sample without informing him first so he couldn't come off the steds and give a clean sample?


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Post by Pound-for-Pound Tue May 08, 2012 2:29 pm

hampo171 wrote:Anybody seen any reasons why it took two months for the results to come out?

Drug testing can take a while as it is quite extensive and difficult with the creation of masking agents making most steroids undetectable unless you know the exact composition of the steroid and agent. Plus they have to test sample A and if they yield a positive result they will test sample B and only if both are positive can they take action. They will then have to review the results to make sure they're not making a mistake which would ruin theirs and the athlete's reputation.


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Post by J.Benson II Tue May 08, 2012 2:53 pm

OasisBFC wrote:
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OasisBFC wrote:
azania wrote:Bradley connected better and on the chin. He is an accurate puncher.

thats all you need to know. its not all about the power, its about timing and technique.

and anyway, since when did taking substances improve your punch resistance?

Wouldn't it strengthen the neck muscles?

not to a degree where you can walk through punches you once would have been knocked out from.
apparently 'riods can increase pain threshold though, although this is just internet rubbish posted from people with no medical background so i cant believe it.

until i see an article stating that PEDs can help you take a punch better i wont be swayed. it can help you train harder, faster etc, but ability to take a punch? im not too sure.

It can't. Or if it can, not to any significant degree. There are plenty of heavily juiced athletes in various combat sports with suspect chins.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Tue May 08, 2012 2:55 pm

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OasisBFC wrote:
Pound-for-Pound wrote:
OasisBFC wrote:
azania wrote:Bradley connected better and on the chin. He is an accurate puncher.

thats all you need to know. its not all about the power, its about timing and technique.

and anyway, since when did taking substances improve your punch resistance?

Wouldn't it strengthen the neck muscles?

not to a degree where you can walk through punches you once would have been knocked out from.
apparently 'riods can increase pain threshold though, although this is just internet rubbish posted from people with no medical background so i cant believe it.

until i see an article stating that PEDs can help you take a punch better i wont be swayed. it can help you train harder, faster etc, but ability to take a punch? im not too sure.

It can't. Or if it can, not to any significant degree. There are plenty of heavily juiced athletes in various combat sports with suspect chins.

Which combat sports allow steroids?

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Post by manos de piedra Tue May 08, 2012 2:56 pm

Its not going to do much for Peterson mental preparation anyway.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Tue May 08, 2012 2:59 pm

manos de piedra wrote:Its not going to do much for Peterson mental preparation anyway.

Don't think that matters now. I can't see the fight happening after this.

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Post by azania Tue May 08, 2012 3:06 pm

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manos de piedra wrote:Its not going to do much for Peterson mental preparation anyway.

Don't think that matters now. I can't see the fight happening after this.

Are you kidding me? I will be shocked if the fight doesn't go ahead. This is Vegas where a rich and guilty person can defer their prison sentence until it suits them. What's a few hard-on pills when there are millions to be made? The fight goes ahead. LP would need to use steel chairs on Khan to score a points victory. The judges will allow Khan to push and probably even kick so long as he wins. LP will be suspended for 9-12 months and all will be forgiven when he returns and becomes a bigger attraction.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Tue May 08, 2012 3:09 pm

As much as money matters in Vegas they won't allow a guy to get in the ring when there is evidence he is on steroids. GBP have already contacted Carson Jones

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Post by manos de piedra Tue May 08, 2012 3:17 pm

Its so late in the day to call it off I think there would be serious pressure to go through with it.

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Post by hampo17 Tue May 08, 2012 3:20 pm

Strange they've contacted Carson Jones with him being a WW, you'd think they'd be able find a LWW.

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Post by azania Tue May 08, 2012 3:21 pm

Pound-for-Pound wrote:As much as money matters in Vegas they won't allow a guy to get in the ring when there is evidence he is on steroids. GBP have already contacted Carson Jones

I dont think that level of sanity will apply. Will Carson (who) take the fight in such short notice?

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Tue May 08, 2012 3:22 pm

Even if there is pressure surely it shouldn't be allowed. You can't knowingly endanger a person for the sake of money and that is what you're doing if you put someone in the ring with a steroid user. I'm sure they said Jones is interested in taking the fight so the card should still go ahead.

Didn't Shane Mosley end a sparring partner's career back when he was juicing?

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