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Post by Gordy Sun 20 May 2012, 4:57 pm

First topic message reminder :

Ok so Sky are telling us we have a new all conquering heavyweight by the name of David Price. It seems like alot of people are being carried away by the hype so far. I think its quite embarrassing when people mention him in the same breath as Lennox Lewis, who outside of the great Ali was arguably the best heavyweight of all time.

But since then we have had a bunch of imposters well marketed by the media trying to convince us they are the next Lennox Lewis. Audley Harrison? David Haye? Ring any bells? Seems like we have been here before and Im suspicious Price is now simply the new Sky poster boy to try and hide the fact there are simply no good heavyweights around these days. Should we really get carried away? If he wins the world title then I will get excited. But until then I dont see any reason to be mentioning him alongside the likes of Lennox Lewis!

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon 21 May 2012, 7:36 am

rowley wrote:Is someone trying to tell me a commercial entity with a vested interest in trying to gain as many subscribers as they can in an effort to maximise their profitability might try and convince me a fighter is better than he is or indeed is capable of being. Who would have thought them capable of such cunning. It is times like this I am glad you are around Gordy because there was a real danger of be falling for this hook line and sinker.


Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh

That post genuinely drew a laugh out of me

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon 21 May 2012, 7:37 am

Steffan wrote:Price would not beat Fury. Fury would win by late KO

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 21 May 2012, 8:52 am

not sure how people can say sky are over hyping and critise them for believing the hype while also saying that fury would beat him. considering you would have to have done exactly the same from channel 5.

would like to see someone come at price now, think all his oppenents know there going to get beat and staying off at distance is sucide, just like hayes "plan" against wlad. think perfect test would be a fit chisora, daft enough to keep coming forward and wouldnt be scared, but would also be easy enough win for price imo. think chisora would take a right beating aswell which im sure plenty of people might like to see

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon 21 May 2012, 9:06 am

compelling and rich wrote:not sure how people can say sky are over hyping and critise them for believing the hype while also saying that fury would beat him. considering you would have to have done exactly the same from channel 5.

thumbsup True. Pot, kettle and all.

Fury is obviously better as he has been put down twice but two light punching heavy's and got back up to win thumbsup

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Post by azania Mon 21 May 2012, 9:10 am

SharkSoul wrote:
Steffan wrote:Price would not beat Fury. Fury would win by late KO

Fury would beat Price? Seriously Steffan? What have you witnessed in the 'dazzling' Taxi Driving Punisher Tyson Fury that we have all missed? Please enlighten me.

Price would dispatch Fury without a shadow of doubt in my eyes. Let's hope that fight gets made. I would lean towards Price to beat Haye aswell, I think he would run into similar problems like he did against Wlad (Not for one second comparing Price>Wlad) but height/reach would prove very awkward for Haye to overcome and that Jab was great lastnight from Price. Granted the counter arguement would be well he overcame height/reach dis-advantage against Valuev but I don't even rate that behemoth as a boxer so that arguement is null/void.

Lets not get carried away eh. Price has a decent jab but in no way is it comparable to Wlad's. Haye would KO Price in relatively short time. He may have looked good, but he was fighting Sexton who couldn't slip on a banana let alone slip a jab.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 21 May 2012, 9:27 am

SharkSoul wrote:
Steffan wrote:Price would not beat Fury. Fury would win by late KO

Fury would beat Price? Seriously Steffan? What have you witnessed in the 'dazzling' Taxi Driving Punisher Tyson Fury that we have all missed? Please enlighten me.

I could be wide of the mark but, slightly cynically, I think there's some residual scouse dislike like being vented there by Steffan following to Cleverly-Bellew affair.

I can't see how an argument can be made that Fury would beat Price, he has no single attribute that's better - including his chin. Erm

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Mon 21 May 2012, 9:43 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:
I can't see how an argument can be made that Fury would beat Price, he has no single attribute that's better

He has much better moobs. He could breastfeed a crèche.

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Post by superflyweight Mon 21 May 2012, 11:12 am

gordy=waingro. Lol

Both quality IMO.

Strange logic from Gordy. Don't see anyone claiming that Price is as good as Lewis but people are getting quite excited about his potential - and not without reason. A physically imposing heavyweight with genuine power in both hands to go alongside a good skill set, a fair degree of mobility and what appears to be a committment to conditioning. It certainly sets him apart from about 99% of the heavyweight division.

He needs more rounds and we need to see what he's like when something really meaningful is coming back at him but there is certainly something there and I'm looking forward to watching him over the next couple of years.

Would like to see him fight Fury and then start taking on some of the fringe contenders and rack up some rounds over his next twelve - fifteen fights before he even looks at someone like Wlad. No need to rush into what would, at this stage, be a rather demoralising defeat.

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 21 May 2012, 11:49 am

alma wrote:The problem is that the next 12-15 fights with price means four years by which time he'll be 33

everybody develops at different rates price is ahead of many fighters at his current rate after only 13 fights, he's no alvarez. would imagine a world title shot by his 20 fight would be a realistic target. even if not 33 isnt that old for a heavyweight in this era. wald would be long gone by then though. it all depends whether he wants the big fight against wlad or clean up after wlads gone

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 21 May 2012, 11:52 am

forgot to also add that theres no need for 12-15 fights, theres isnt 12-15 fighters out there who he could learn from after 6-7 he would just be smashing cans in and learning nothing.

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Post by OasisBFC Mon 21 May 2012, 11:56 am

price was offered 100k to fight fury (4 times his biggest purse) and price turned it down.

fury would have to leave c5 to fight him on sky and it's too lucrative.

he didn't duck at all.
if he would beat him or not is a different story all together.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon 21 May 2012, 12:07 pm

OasisBFC wrote:price was offered 100k to fight fury (4 times his biggest purse) and price turned it down.

fury would have to leave c5 to fight him on sky and it's too lucrative.

he didn't duck at all.
if he would beat him or not is a different story all together.

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I love the way people come out with all this without any proof. How do you know its 4 times his biggest purse. Are you there during Price's purse negotiations for each fight?

If Fury is happy getting paid money for fight tom cans on Channel 5 thats his business, but lets not make out he wanted to fight Price, or why else did he bin his title's to fight Rogan for the Irish Heavyweight title.

If the 100k offer is true, I think it was smart by Price to reject it because that figure that would be dwarfed now due to the attention this fight could make.

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 21 May 2012, 12:10 pm

OasisBFC wrote:price was offered 100k to fight fury (4 times his biggest purse) and price turned it down.

fury would have to leave c5 to fight him on sky and it's too lucrative.

he didn't duck at all.
if he would beat him or not is a different story all together.

your also forgetting the bit where fury himself said he was onto bigger and better things, then fought rogan!

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Post by Union Cane Mon 21 May 2012, 12:14 pm

Fury has time on his side though, he can afford to bide his time and build his record.
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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon 21 May 2012, 12:18 pm

True, but once you start taking those punches on a regular occasion doesnt matter how old you are, you will age in the ring rather quickly.

El Feroz springs to mind

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 21 May 2012, 12:45 pm

alma wrote:Price talking about fighting on khans next undercard in July. Seems unlikely but an American patsy would certainly build his reputation.

What about somebody like Seth Mitchell?

And re the Fury business, wasn't Price his mandatory therefore £100k or not should've been irrelevant? Hence why he had to dump his belts.

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Post by as1079 Mon 21 May 2012, 12:50 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
alma wrote:Price talking about fighting on khans next undercard in July. Seems unlikely but an American patsy would certainly build his reputation.

What about somebody like Seth Mitchell?

And re the Fury business, wasn't Price his mandatory therefore £100k or not should've been irrelevant? Hence why he had to dump his belts.

I think Price v Mitchell would be far too much of a risk for both parties. Down the line though, I'd be very interested by that fight.

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Post by Adam D Mon 21 May 2012, 12:51 pm

Thought it would be worthwhile to repost this from Frank Maloney and his inteview with us:

For a number of reasons, some of which couldn't be helped, David Price has been fairly inactive (having had only 12 fights in close to 3 years) for someone at the start of his career. How difficult is it to match-make for a genuine prospect like David and has this changed since you were guiding Lennox at a similar stage in his career?

He hasn't been with me that whole time and he has fought a lot more since he did join me. I have a format for heavyweight boxers and David is following it. I will not change it. The plans for the next year are to get him fighting 5 to 6 times in the next 12 months. We are aiming for a world title fight in 18 to 24 months.

https://www.606v2.com/t23597-frank-maloney-qa

If the July fight is true, it looks like that Frank is being true to his claim.

I havent commented so far on this thread but I thought that Price looked excellent, irrespective of the opposition.

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Post by superflyweight Mon 21 May 2012, 12:54 pm

It was me that mentioned 12-15 fights. He's a relative novice and barely had to go longer than 4 rounds. I don't have the stats in front of me but I suspect that he's not fought much more than 50 rounds in his 12 fights to date. He has to keep stepping up in class but (as Union said) there's no need to rush him. 28 isn't all that old for a heavyweight and even if he wasn't ready for a challenge until 33 - he could expect to enjoy a further 3-5 years at the top. If he takes a step too far at his stage then it could be a set-back that he may not recover from.

Neither brother should be remotely on the radar at the moment and I think Price has to go through a few more levels before he faces the likes of Adamek, Potevkin and Solis. I'd like to see him rack up somewhere around 25 fights before I put him in with someone like Wlad.

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Post by OasisBFC Mon 21 May 2012, 1:29 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
OasisBFC wrote:price was offered 100k to fight fury (4 times his biggest purse) and price turned it down.

fury would have to leave c5 to fight him on sky and it's too lucrative.

he didn't duck at all.
if he would beat him or not is a different story all together.

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I love the way people come out with all this without any proof. How do you know its 4 times his biggest purse. Are you there during Price's purse negotiations for each fight?

If Fury is happy getting paid money for fight tom cans on Channel 5 thats his business, but lets not make out he wanted to fight Price, or why else did he bin his title's to fight Rogan for the Irish Heavyweight title.

If the 100k offer is true, I think it was smart by Price to reject it because that figure that would be dwarfed now due to the attention this fight could make.

if price was british champ he'd have been stripped for not facing fury (if fury was mandatory) because price wouldn't have left his sky deal.
and i'd be very surprised that price was getting more than 25k a fight at that stage in his career.

now he's moved up thats fair enough.

and i also think price would win if they were to meet, but people think he ducked when theres far more to it. happens all the time in boxing, either with promoters not working together or tv channels not working together.

primetime and hbo are examples.

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Post by J.Benson II Mon 21 May 2012, 1:31 pm

Its unlikely that Price would be able to arrange fights with other contenders as they'd most likely not want the risk of losing the chance of a bigger payday against a Klitschko.
A better option would be to fight some ageing ex-champions/contenders. Helenius was able to boost his ranking and popularity by beating these type of challengers.

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Post by OasisBFC Mon 21 May 2012, 1:34 pm

J.Benson II wrote:Its unlikely that Price would be able to arrange fights with other contenders as they'd most likely not want the risk of losing the chance of a bigger payday against a Klitschko.
A better option would be to fight some ageing ex-champions/contenders. Helenius was able to boost his ranking and popularity by beating these type of challengers.

i think chisora gave Helenius a horrible time, Price would do a number on him. Good match up. always good to see 2 bombers.

i'd like him in there with an american at some point - rahman, grant, chambers later on.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon 21 May 2012, 1:38 pm

OasisBFC wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
OasisBFC wrote:price was offered 100k to fight fury (4 times his biggest purse) and price turned it down.

fury would have to leave c5 to fight him on sky and it's too lucrative.

he didn't duck at all.
if he would beat him or not is a different story all together.

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I love the way people come out with all this without any proof. How do you know its 4 times his biggest purse. Are you there during Price's purse negotiations for each fight?

If Fury is happy getting paid money for fight tom cans on Channel 5 thats his business, but lets not make out he wanted to fight Price, or why else did he bin his title's to fight Rogan for the Irish Heavyweight title.

If the 100k offer is true, I think it was smart by Price to reject it because that figure that would be dwarfed now due to the attention this fight could make.

if price was british champ he'd have been stripped for not facing fury (if fury was mandatory) because price wouldn't have left his sky deal.
and i'd be very surprised that price was getting more than 25k a fight at that stage in his career.

now he's moved up thats fair enough.

and i also think price would win if they were to meet, but people think he ducked when theres far more to it. happens all the time in boxing, either with promoters not working together or tv channels not working together.

primetime and hbo are examples.

I can see where your coming from. He probably got a couple of ££££ for Saturday. Cant see Fury making much more per fight to be honest.

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Post by J.Benson II Mon 21 May 2012, 1:41 pm

OasisBFC wrote:
J.Benson II wrote:Its unlikely that Price would be able to arrange fights with other contenders as they'd most likely not want the risk of losing the chance of a bigger payday against a Klitschko.
A better option would be to fight some ageing ex-champions/contenders. Helenius was able to boost his ranking and popularity by beating these type of challengers.

i think chisora gave Helenius a horrible time, Price would do a number on him. Good match up. always good to see 2 bombers.

i'd like him in there with an american at some point - rahman, grant, chambers later on.

What I meant is that Helenius boosted his rating by beating on ex-champions like Peters, Brewster and Liakhovich. This propelled his ranking to 3rd prior to the Chisora fight.
Price should perhaps go down a similar route as I can't see other unbeaten contenders like Mitchell and Boytsov wanting to face him.

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Post by OasisBFC Mon 21 May 2012, 1:43 pm

J.Benson II wrote:
OasisBFC wrote:
J.Benson II wrote:Its unlikely that Price would be able to arrange fights with other contenders as they'd most likely not want the risk of losing the chance of a bigger payday against a Klitschko.
A better option would be to fight some ageing ex-champions/contenders. Helenius was able to boost his ranking and popularity by beating these type of challengers.

i think chisora gave Helenius a horrible time, Price would do a number on him. Good match up. always good to see 2 bombers.

i'd like him in there with an american at some point - rahman, grant, chambers later on.

What I meant is that Helenius boosted his rating by beating on ex-champions like Peters, Brewster and Liakhovich. This propelled his ranking to 3rd prior to the Chisora fight.
Price should perhaps go down a similar route as I can't see other unbeaten contenders like Mitchell and Boytsov wanting to face him.

ah yes read it wrong.
but if chirosa can beat him (you know what i mean), i'd fight him as well as the ex champs.

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Post by OasisBFC Mon 21 May 2012, 1:47 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
OasisBFC wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
OasisBFC wrote:price was offered 100k to fight fury (4 times his biggest purse) and price turned it down.

fury would have to leave c5 to fight him on sky and it's too lucrative.

he didn't duck at all.
if he would beat him or not is a different story all together.

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I love the way people come out with all this without any proof. How do you know its 4 times his biggest purse. Are you there during Price's purse negotiations for each fight?

If Fury is happy getting paid money for fight tom cans on Channel 5 thats his business, but lets not make out he wanted to fight Price, or why else did he bin his title's to fight Rogan for the Irish Heavyweight title.

If the 100k offer is true, I think it was smart by Price to reject it because that figure that would be dwarfed now due to the attention this fight could make.

if price was british champ he'd have been stripped for not facing fury (if fury was mandatory) because price wouldn't have left his sky deal.
and i'd be very surprised that price was getting more than 25k a fight at that stage in his career.

now he's moved up thats fair enough.

and i also think price would win if they were to meet, but people think he ducked when theres far more to it. happens all the time in boxing, either with promoters not working together or tv channels not working together.

primetime and hbo are examples.

I can see where your coming from. He probably got a couple of ££££ for Saturday. Cant see Fury making much more per fight to be honest.

yeah i kind of agree. tyson fury is a much bigger name in non boxing circles though (but then price has olympic pedigree) I dont think Price was managed well before Maloney but then Fury is with Mick. Fair play to him for negotiating the c5 deal, but my feelings is he didnt do much work. Maybe channel 5 wanted boxing and just he agreed.



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Post by J.Benson II Mon 21 May 2012, 1:53 pm

OasisBFC wrote:
J.Benson II wrote:
OasisBFC wrote:
J.Benson II wrote:Its unlikely that Price would be able to arrange fights with other contenders as they'd most likely not want the risk of losing the chance of a bigger payday against a Klitschko.
A better option would be to fight some ageing ex-champions/contenders. Helenius was able to boost his ranking and popularity by beating these type of challengers.

i think chisora gave Helenius a horrible time, Price would do a number on him. Good match up. always good to see 2 bombers.

i'd like him in there with an american at some point - rahman, grant, chambers later on.

What I meant is that Helenius boosted his rating by beating on ex-champions like Peters, Brewster and Liakhovich. This propelled his ranking to 3rd prior to the Chisora fight.
Price should perhaps go down a similar route as I can't see other unbeaten contenders like Mitchell and Boytsov wanting to face him.

ah yes read it wrong.
but if chirosa can beat him (you know what i mean), i'd fight him as well as the ex champs.

Yeah but I can't see Helenius' managment being to keen to fight Price. Its a huge risk and they know a loss would seriously dent any chance they had of a lucrative Klitschko clash.
The same reason I believe Hennessey doesnt want to put Fury in the ring with him.

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Post by alfredperami Mon 21 May 2012, 1:58 pm

OasisBFC wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
OasisBFC wrote:price was offered 100k to fight fury (4 times his biggest purse) and price turned it down.

fury would have to leave c5 to fight him on sky and it's too lucrative.

he didn't duck at all.
if he would beat him or not is a different story all together.

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I love the way people come out with all this without any proof. How do you know its 4 times his biggest purse. Are you there during Price's purse negotiations for each fight?

If Fury is happy getting paid money for fight tom cans on Channel 5 thats his business, but lets not make out he wanted to fight Price, or why else did he bin his title's to fight Rogan for the Irish Heavyweight title.

If the 100k offer is true, I think it was smart by Price to reject it because that figure that would be dwarfed now due to the attention this fight could make.

if price was british champ he'd have been stripped for not facing fury (if fury was mandatory) because price wouldn't have left his sky deal.
and i'd be very surprised that price was getting more than 25k a fight at that stage in his career.

now he's moved up thats fair enough.

and i also think price would win if they were to meet, but people think he ducked when theres far more to it. happens all the time in boxing, either with promoters not working together or tv channels not working together.

primetime and hbo are examples.

Call it what you will, talk a way round it, a duck is a duck. Giving belts up 30 mins before purse bids is a massive duck. we offered him this we offered him that, irrelevant. it had gone to bids he was MC for both belts and they gave them up.
No Ch5 or sky issue(after the purse bid was won by one or the other then maybe but 30 mins before), Mick H didn’t want the golden egg cracked and he moved his man on to bigger and better.....hmmm

i hop Fury gets jumped in the rankings and i thought a lesson for moving up to taxi drivers.

as for we offered him more come what self respecting (HA!) promoter is going to say i made a strategic business decision to duck a better fighter and try top get a belt (as much cash as pos) or MC pos for a belt before i cash out on this below par big man (who by the way gordy is a well over hyped HW)
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Post by Steffan Mon 21 May 2012, 2:28 pm

[quote="TopHat24/7"]I could be wide of the mark but, slightly cynically, I think there's some residual scouse dislike like being vented there by Steffan following to Cleverly-Bellew affair.

I have nothing against scousers. Sure I dont like Bellew and a certain nasty piece of work from Liverpool who posts on here and should have been banned a long time ago but that is due to who they are not where they come from. I have nothing against Price. I just think he would have a harder job putting Fury down than all the other opponents he has fought and Fury would grind out a victory. Hardly disliking Price is it?


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Post by Steffan Mon 21 May 2012, 2:41 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:I don't think Fury makes it out of the first, seriously though.
Price may win the fight I agree (even though I pick Fury to win personally) but to suggest that Price would knock him out first round is letting your home town fighter delusion get in the way im afraid

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 21 May 2012, 2:43 pm

Steffan wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:I could be wide of the mark but, slightly cynically, I think there's some residual scouse dislike like being vented there by Steffan following to Cleverly-Bellew affair.

I can't see how an argument can be made that Fury would beat Price, he has no single attribute that's better - including his chin. Erm
I have nothing against scousers. Sure I dont like Bellew and a certain nasty piece of work from Liverpool who posts on here and should have been banned a long time ago but that is due to who they are not where they come from. I have nothing against Price. I just think he would have a harder job putting Fury down than all the other opponents he has fought and Fury would grind out a victory. Hardly disliking Price is it?

Yeh, did say I might be wide of the mark. Was just taking a punt because someone as knowlegeable of boxing as you can normally put together a more reasoned and coherent argument than just a 2 or 3 word dismissal.

On the basis that, Chisora apart, they've fought broudly the same calibre of fighters as far as I can see and Fury has been dropped twice whereas nobody has got near Price, added to Price making much better use of his height/size/reach with a stiff jab that's much more of a weapon than Fury's, I can't see how Fury wins. Especially as his conditioning is so poor so he'll just get weaker into the later rounds and be even more exposed to one of the heaviest right hands in boxing at the moment.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon 21 May 2012, 3:13 pm

Steffan wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:I don't think Fury makes it out of the first, seriously though.
Price may win the fight I agree (even though I pick Fury to win personally) but to suggest that Price would knock him out first round is letting your home town fighter delusion get in the way im afraid

Sorry Steffan, am impartial when it comes to analysing fights.

But I reckon Fury's fighting instinct will make him want to take the fight to Price and it would be over very quickly. That’s where my money would be if the fight was made.

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Mon 21 May 2012, 3:26 pm

Right now, as someone said if you take out Chisora (an overweight out of shape version that Fury had to fight for 12 rounds with) then Price's record is just as good, if not better with the manner of which he's dealt with his opponents.

As of right now, Price is more qualified to take the next step - questions about his chin may go unanswered for a long time, and that doesn't bother me at all. if he's fighting to a point where he's not letting himself get in danger then he's clearly of a higher standard than most people give him credit for.

Comparisons with Lewis will be obvious due to his fighting style, lets not forget I'm one of Lewis' biggest fans and for them to be comparable now is ludicrous - however because of his size and fighting style I can see why people would get excited.

At this moment in time, price is nothing more than a very exciting prospect. We'll know in 3/4 fights time how good he really is, as I can see him fighting the winner of Haye/Chisora then Fury to put that to bed and probably a fringe contender like Adamek. Then he'll be in the mix for some real opponents like Povetkin and/or one of the Klitschkos. Right now I see Wlad beating him, not Vitali.

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Post by hogey Mon 21 May 2012, 3:30 pm

Price destroys Fury with ease it would be quick and onesided, i cant fathom out how anyone who knows even the slightest thing about boxing can make a case for Fury beating a fighter who is bigger and better than him in every single department.

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Mon 21 May 2012, 3:33 pm

Hogey, I suggest you change your tone - I believe that there may be a few people around here who have forgotten more about boxing than you'll ever know.

Price would beat Fury but quick and one sided? Thats a strange assessment given that Price hasn't been hit yet and Fury can get back up when knocked down and win.

It'd be a chess match for the first 2/3 rounds. Bear in mind that Price may be big, but so is Fury, I can see it being scrappy in the mid rounds with a late stoppage for Price. Fury is awkward when he wants to be and he will make Price stand and trade at some point. Its if Price comes through that test.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon 21 May 2012, 3:36 pm

Steffan wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:I could be wide of the mark but, slightly cynically, I think there's some residual scouse dislike like being vented there by Steffan following to Cleverly-Bellew affair.

I have nothing against scousers. Sure I dont like Bellew and a certain nasty piece of work from Liverpool who posts on here and should have been banned a long time ago but that is due to who they are not where they come from. I have nothing against Price. I just think he would have a harder job putting Fury down than all the other opponents he has fought and Fury would grind out a victory. Hardly disliking Price is it?

Sorry Steffan but we know how good you are with your predictions!

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Post by manos de piedra Mon 21 May 2012, 3:41 pm

I was reading that when Sky made the decision to downsize their boxing catelogue they basically had to choose between axing either Maloneys stable or Hattons. The main reason they chose to keep Maloney was due to Price. So its probably unsurprising that they are going to hype him up now and get behind him seeing as they have gambled on him being the next big thing themselves.

I cant see Price fighting any of Haye, Chisora or Fury who all have plotted different courses. Haye wont be interested, Chisora is too much trouble and Fury is going down a diferent avenue. Price needs to start looking at fights that will give him ranking points with the world sanctioning bodies and European title.

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Post by hogey Mon 21 May 2012, 3:44 pm

JabMachineMK2 wrote:Hogey, I suggest you change your tone - I believe that there may be a few people around here who have forgotten more about boxing than you'll ever know.

Price would beat Fury but quick and one sided? Thats a strange assessment given that Price hasn't been hit yet and Fury can get back up when knocked down and win.

It'd be a chess match for the first 2/3 rounds. Bear in mind that Price may be big, but so is Fury, I can see it being scrappy in the mid rounds with a late stoppage for Price. Fury is awkward when he wants to be and he will make Price stand and trade at some point. Its if Price comes through that test.

I would suggest its you that needs to change your tone mate, i have been a boxing fan for nearly half a century and i boxed many times myself while in the forces during that time so i doubt i know less than someone who makes up fantasy sparring sessions with real pro fighters to appear clever.
I stand by what i think, for me having seen then both of them fight Fury is not in the same league as Price and i think in 18 months to 2 years time many people will wonder how on earth they never saw through Fury much sooner

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Post by Union Cane Mon 21 May 2012, 3:53 pm

hogey wrote:I would suggest its you that needs to change your tone mate, i have been a boxing fan for nearly half a century and i boxed many times myself while in the forces during that time so i doubt i know less than someone who makes up fantasy sparring sessions with real pro fighters to appear clever.

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Post by OasisBFC Mon 21 May 2012, 3:59 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
Steffan wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:I could be wide of the mark but, slightly cynically, I think there's some residual scouse dislike like being vented there by Steffan following to Cleverly-Bellew affair.

I can't see how an argument can be made that Fury would beat Price, he has no single attribute that's better - including his chin. Erm
I have nothing against scousers. Sure I dont like Bellew and a certain nasty piece of work from Liverpool who posts on here and should have been banned a long time ago but that is due to who they are not where they come from. I have nothing against Price. I just think he would have a harder job putting Fury down than all the other opponents he has fought and Fury would grind out a victory. Hardly disliking Price is it?

Yeh, did say I might be wide of the mark. Was just taking a punt because someone as knowlegeable of boxing as you can normally put together a more reasoned and coherent argument than just a 2 or 3 word dismissal.

On the basis that, Chisora apart, they've fought broudly the same calibre of fighters as far as I can see and Fury has been dropped twice whereas nobody has got near Price, added to Price making much better use of his height/size/reach with a stiff jab that's much more of a weapon than Fury's, I can't see how Fury wins. Especially as his conditioning is so poor so he'll just get weaker into the later rounds and be even more exposed to one of the heaviest right hands in boxing at the moment.

wasn't fury just knocked down the once, then got up to KO his opponent?
price beat him in the amateurs but fury must have been just a young teenager. and didnt fury knock him down? tyson has got a better chin, and has fought better opponents. he's fought about 5 unbeaten fighters in his last 7 or 8 fights.

but price edges it for me. possibly by KO.

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Post by Union Cane Mon 21 May 2012, 4:07 pm

OasisBFC wrote: he's fought about 5 unbeaten fighters in his last 7 or 8 fights.


Hadn't realised that, but you are right. Amongst his last 7 opponents are:

Rich Power (12-0-0)
Marcelo Nascimento (13-0-0)
Dereck Chisora (14-0-0)
Neven Pakjic (16-0-0)

Whilst Price has faced a series of human punchbags and Tom Dallas (15-0-0).


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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 21 May 2012, 4:12 pm

I can't say without rewatching his recent few fights but I'm sure there was one other occassion where I thought he went down. Maybe the ropes saved him or maybe it was just a very heavy wobble, however given it was against a feather-fisted tomato can I think it still points to a slight 'chinny-ness'

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Post by manos de piedra Mon 21 May 2012, 4:19 pm

Price has looked so much better than Fury though. Even if Fury does edge it in the chin department its kind of irrelevant because Price has serious power and if he gets through it will hurt Fury and be well capable of stopping him.

Fury might have the better resord aswell but in terms of performances its hard to find any flaws with Price thus far whereas Fury has not impressed in the same way.

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Post by Guest Mon 21 May 2012, 4:20 pm

Union Cane wrote:
OasisBFC wrote: he's fought about 5 unbeaten fighters in his last 7 or 8 fights.


Hadn't realised that, but you are right. Amongst his last 7 opponents are:

Rich Power (12-0-0)
Marcelo Nascimento (13-0-0)
Dereck Chisora (14-0-0)
Neven Pakjic (16-0-0)

Whilst Price has faced a series of human punchbags and Tom Dallas (15-0-0).



Who would you have him face in his first fifteen fights? How much world class opposition is a novice pro likely to find? How many propmotors have thrown their new charges in with the creme de la creme? Someone on here keeps banging on about Seth Mitchell and Deontay Wilder as the future of the HW division and yet their oppostion to date must make Price's look like a "Who's Who" of HW brilliance. Kell Brook's best opponent to date has been Matthew Hatton and now we're expected to believe this proves his genuine World Class despite the 2nd best fighter on his record being Michael Jennings (a fight he won after a nasty clash of heads).

Price did exceptionally well against Sexton and, when you consider that the supposed 2nd best HW in England (Chisora) had a real struggle on his hands with the same opponent before finishing him off, it makes what Price did look that much more impressive. Chisora hit Sexton with half a dozen full-blooded shots and still couldn't floor him, Price hit Sexton with a short right hook and completely knocked him cold.

Personally, I'd risk putting Price in with someone like Arreola. He's tough and well rounded and floating around the top ten. A decent outing against him would give us a better idea of where Price is at. Would Helenius be prepared to step up to the plate or someone around that calibre. Albert Sosnowski is taking part in Prizefighter otherwise a fight with Price would be something to consider also.

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Post by hogey Mon 21 May 2012, 4:21 pm

Pakjic put him down, Firtha had him in real trouble before a very premature stoppage, a disgustingly out of condition Chisora had him rocked on a few occassions and even McDermott hurt him several times. Not one of these men are known as big punchers yet all had him badly hurt. While i don't question his heart for me his chin is looking less than solid in recent fights. Fact is if the above fighters who all seemed to find Fury easy to hit and were able to hurt him what chance does he have when hit by a massive puncher like Price.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon 21 May 2012, 4:24 pm

Union Cane wrote:
OasisBFC wrote: he's fought about 5 unbeaten fighters in his last 7 or 8 fights.


Hadn't realised that, but you are right. Amongst his last 7 opponents are:

Rich Power (12-0-0)
Marcelo Nascimento (13-0-0)
Dereck Chisora (14-0-0)
Neven Pakjic (16-0-0)

Whilst Price has faced a series of human punchbags and Tom Dallas (15-0-0).

These are all flawed undefeated records. Like Dalla's really

Rich Power beat three fighters with a winning record one 3-2-1, one 1-0 and one 2-0. Spanked out by the crude Magomed in 3 in his last fight. Marcelo Nascimento has been beaten in his only meaningful fights since Fury. Punchbags if you ask me.

Pakjic had a half decent record but managed to put Fury on his ass.

Chisora only meaningful opponant and he was and stone and a half then he had ever been in the ring and gassed out.

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Post by Union Cane Mon 21 May 2012, 4:27 pm

Just saying that Fury has risked himself against unbeaten fighters whilst Price hasn't.

Price has looked good beating rubbish, whereas Fury has looked rubbish beating slightly better (on paper) rubbish.

Price would KO Fury though, of that there is no doubt.
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Post by manos de piedra Mon 21 May 2012, 4:31 pm

Helenius just had shoulder surgery recently and I dont think he plans on fighting until after the Summer.

I think Dimitrenko would be a decent opponent if the fight could be made. But I wouldnt be overly surprised if its a journey man style fighter they bring up next like Maddalone, Guinn, Barrett, Sprott etc

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 21 May 2012, 4:35 pm

Union Cane wrote:
OasisBFC wrote: he's fought about 5 unbeaten fighters in his last 7 or 8 fights.


Hadn't realised that, but you are right. Amongst his last 7 opponents are:

Rich Power (12-0-0)
Marcelo Nascimento (13-0-0)
Dereck Chisora (14-0-0)
Neven Pakjic (16-0-0)

Whilst Price has faced a series of human punchbags and Tom Dallas (15-0-0).



And Nascimento, for example, was frankly appalling. Sexton, despite not having an "0", is a much better win.

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Post by Nico the gman Mon 21 May 2012, 4:46 pm

The Price KO of Sexton was chilling,but the variation of punches was just as impressive, nobody in their right mind would call Price another Lewis,but so far what Price has done his done in style without any problems.
Fury doesn't impress me and if they fought, I fancy Price to put Fury down and this time he doesn't get up and recover.

Maloney has been in the game long enough and will know exactly when its right to move Price up in class.

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