Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
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Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
Interesting debate, which at this moment in time, would you say carries the title of being the greatest win for a player and team? The world cup was always the greatest but now with the success of the champions league since its inception in the early 90's, it has become a favourite with fans and players alike, with some great moments to match those of the world cup.
So is the world cup still the pinnacle of a footballers career, or is the champions league on a par or perhaps has over taken the world cup to become the most sought after trophy?
So is the world cup still the pinnacle of a footballers career, or is the champions league on a par or perhaps has over taken the world cup to become the most sought after trophy?
Liam- Posts : 3574
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
World Cup still for me.
The fact it's only every 4 years clips it, far less players therefore can claim the title.
The fact it's only every 4 years clips it, far less players therefore can claim the title.
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
I think it depends on the nation of the player. For someone from a small nation whose nation is highly unlikely to win a world cup (e.g. Ghana, Belgium etc) then winning the Champions League is probably seen as a greater pinnacle as the player would have made it to the top.
For bigger nations (E.g. Brazil, Germany, Spain etc) then winning the World cup would still be the pinnacle.
For bigger nations (E.g. Brazil, Germany, Spain etc) then winning the World cup would still be the pinnacle.
Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
All because it's less achievable doesn't make it less of a pinnacle, arguably quite the opposite. If that racist scumbag Suarez hadn't cheated Ghana in the World Cup they'd have celebrated just getting to the semis as much as winning the Champions League.
TopHat24/7- Posts : 17008
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
Hero wrote:World Cup still for me.
The fact it's only every 4 years clips it, far less players therefore can claim the title.
I'd agree with that!
Stella- Posts : 6671
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
TopHat24/7 wrote:All because it's less achievable doesn't make it less of a pinnacle, arguably quite the opposite.
exactly my thoughts.
anyone can win the champions league. look at jonathan greening.
world cup without doubt is the biggest thing you can win
JamesLincs- Posts : 2212
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
I'm sure there have been a few below average players who have won the world cup but I take your point.
Like another poster mentioned, even getting to the semi's of a world cup is a massive achievement.
Like another poster mentioned, even getting to the semi's of a world cup is a massive achievement.
Stella- Posts : 6671
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
What if the world cup was held every year or the CL every 4 years?
It could be argued that the CL features more talent
It could be argued that the CL features more talent
GSC- Posts : 43496
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
What if the world cup was held every year or the CL every 4 years?
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But it doesn't. If it did then yes, things might be looked at differently at least by me.
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But it doesn't. If it did then yes, things might be looked at differently at least by me.
Stella- Posts : 6671
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
For nations who have no chance of winning like England the champions league is bigger, certainly reflected in the players efforts.
super_realist- Posts : 29075
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
'no chance of winning'? We won it
TopHat24/7- Posts : 17008
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
TopHat24/7 wrote:'no chance of winning'? We won it
That seem like a lifetime ago. In fact it was
Stella- Posts : 6671
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
Yes you won it 46 years ago. Now however you HAVE no chance of winning it.
super_realist- Posts : 29075
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
super_realist wrote:Yes you won it 46 years ago. Now however you HAVE no chance of winning it.
Who know's?
We may be good again in 46 years time.
Stella- Posts : 6671
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
Steven Gerrard will still get picked in 46 years time...
Difficult question, this. I'll say they are both equal.
Difficult question, this. I'll say they are both equal.
The Special Juan- Posts : 20900
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
super_realist wrote:Yes you won it 46 years ago. Now however you HAVE no chance of winning it.
This time round? Ever again??
Typical Jock, get over your petty dislike of the auld enemy.
TopHat24/7- Posts : 17008
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
I don't hate England, I just hate your media and most of the players
I think everyone in the world hates you (or at least in the Euros)
I think everyone in the world hates you (or at least in the Euros)
The Special Juan- Posts : 20900
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
I think 20 or so years ago when footballers existed more in their own countries the World Cup was the pinnacle as he best english players from the english leagues/spanish from spanish leagues/german from german leagues etc etc grouped together and played each other, now days as money and the multiculturalism have grouped 90% of the worlds top players at 15 or so top clubs it has made the champs league a much bigger deal.
Dr Gregory House MD- Posts : 3624
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
world cup for sure
mystiroakey- Posts : 32472
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
Gregers wrote:I think it depends on the nation of the player. For someone from a small nation whose nation is highly unlikely to win a world cup (e.g. Ghana, Belgium etc) then winning the Champions League is probably seen as a greater pinnacle as the player would have made it to the top.
For bigger nations (E.g. Brazil, Germany, Spain etc) then winning the World cup would still be the pinnacle.
by your rationale it would actually mean that the world cup is much more of a pinnacle than the cl for a footballer over a cl- because it would be a harder(if not impossible thing to acheive for someone from scotland or moldova etc
however i will deviate from this subject and say that maybe the euro cup should also be stuck in here- ok its not for every player on planet earth- but the euro cup could be seen as the highest quality international tourny to win of all, as there is no dead wood in there.
by that rationale mind we could say that the cl is even higher quailty - therefore the cl is actually the best to win- because it features the highest quality.
but then its not all about quality is it, The world cup is the main tourny in the world, it is exeptionally special and it is the one to win.
mystiroakey- Posts : 32472
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Re: Champions league or World cup: Which is the greatest to win?
The World Cup everyday of the week. If it's not to be considered the absolute cream then we might as well do away with international football.
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