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Post by Seanusarrilius Thu 24 May 2012, 8:09 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYP7O4FWv7A

Nice support for Bute here, to be honest. Should be a cracker


One on ones with Froch and links to Bute too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIDMC-CxrU&feature=relmfu


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Post by Guest Thu 24 May 2012, 8:50 pm

Having watched the Sky prog on him I have got a bit of a hunch that Bute doesn't really like boxing,and that he may lack a bit of the old instestinal fortitude.up to now I have assumed Froch doesn't stand a chance,based purely on what I have heard about Bute.Almost despite myself, as am not a Froch fan particularly, I think he will dig deep for this one,and simply wants it more.Could look a bozo in a few days after this post I know, but heck,I was a David Haye supporter once and you can never look yourself in the mirror properly after that.

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Post by Lance Thu 24 May 2012, 10:50 pm

i think 5/2 for bute stoppage looks appealing. if bute lands some of the shots johnson or ward hav done in frochs last 2 we could see frochs chin finally crack. hope not, hope froch is at his best and that we get a very close and entertaining brawl

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Post by ThrowingLeather Fri 25 May 2012, 11:10 am

I think stylistically this is the closest we ever get to seeing a Froch vs Calzaghe fight.

...and by that I mean Froch is likely to get outboxed but not necessarily hurt.
I find Froch has a tendency to load up and telegraph shots against a fighter with more technical ability. This is most likely down to frustration.

Bute is all wrong for Froch. Sadly I think he loses this one.. most likely on a clear but not huge (home fighter) UD.

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Post by Union Cane Fri 25 May 2012, 11:13 am

Leaning towards a draw myself, with Bute UDing the rematch in Montreal.
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Post by alfredperami Fri 25 May 2012, 11:17 am

Union Cane wrote:Leaning towards a draw myself, with Bute UDing the rematch in Montreal.

at 25/1 that might be worth a fiver.
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 25 May 2012, 11:22 am

Union Cane wrote:Leaning towards a draw myself, with Bute UDing the rematch in Montreal.

Yep, same for me. I actually predicted it on the new (and improved) prediction league. I think Bute may actually 'win' the fight but Froch may get some home town judging. I can see two judges going either way and the third being 115/115 or something along those lines.

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Post by Union Cane Fri 25 May 2012, 11:26 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:(and improved)

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 25 May 2012, 11:29 am

Union Cane wrote:
a surprise tenner in my wallet yesterday

That is half a weeks wages in Grimsby, isn't it?

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Post by Seanusarrilius Fri 25 May 2012, 1:52 pm

I got money on the draw and the Froch KO. Just for odds value

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Post by Union Cane Fri 25 May 2012, 2:34 pm

Followed your lead Sean, £10 on the draw (now down to 22/1, I think they are onto me!) and the free £10 on Froch by KO at 7/1.

Fingers crossed...
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Post by JabMachineMK2 Fri 25 May 2012, 2:49 pm

I see a Froch SD here.

I think Bute is a cracking puncher, and his left hook to the body is incredible, but Froch keeps his hands low so i don't see that punch getting through. Without it it'll be a case of going to Frochs head - and that means leaving yourself open. Bute has done that a few times while unloading and Froch won't wobble - he'll charge.

Froch will look impressive. vs. Arthur Abraham impressive. Bute however will look good in the opening few rounds. I see it being a 116 - 113 each and because its hometown and Froch will want it more - he'll get the nod.

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Post by Union Cane Fri 25 May 2012, 2:52 pm

JabMachineMK2 wrote:I see a Froch SD here.

I hope not!

Carl has said he will "knock him art" and I believe him.
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Post by JabMachineMK2 Fri 25 May 2012, 2:57 pm

I hope for your sake, and for British boxing he does.

I just don't see Bute going down, Froch isn't really a KO kinda boxer at this level

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Post by Seanusarrilius Fri 25 May 2012, 3:00 pm

JabMachineMK2 wrote:I see a Froch SD here.

I think Bute is a cracking puncher, and his left hook to the body is incredible, but Froch keeps his hands low so i don't see that punch getting through. Without it it'll be a case of going to Frochs head - and that means leaving yourself open. Bute has done that a few times while unloading and Froch won't wobble - he'll charge.

Froch will look impressive. vs. Arthur Abraham impressive. Bute however will look good in the opening few rounds. I see it being a 116 - 113 each and because its hometown and Froch will want it more - he'll get the nod.

Yes, yes, yes!!!


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Post by JabMachineMK2 Fri 25 May 2012, 4:29 pm

Spoiler:

For those who haven't

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Fri 25 May 2012, 4:33 pm

God damn I hate Jim Watt.

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Fri 25 May 2012, 4:43 pm

Froch looks a lot more ripped than previously. I think he's gone for speed personally. Bute is just Bute - massive lego head.

I think it'll be great. Really excited for it, one of the best fights this year I'd say.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Fri 25 May 2012, 4:47 pm

JabMachineMK2 wrote:Froch looks a lot more ripped than previously. I think he's gone for speed personally. Bute is just Bute - massive lego head.

I think it'll be great. Really excited for it, one of the best fights this year I'd say.

Froch is definitley going to try and be more loose for this. He cannot load up like a sloth as he did v Ward

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Fri 25 May 2012, 4:51 pm

The likelihood is he'll take a few rounds to get used to Butes power - Bute will try to hurt him fast, and he'll know all about Froch being tough so he's likely to go for the body - its whether Froch can:

a) adapt to the southpaw stance fast
b) avoid that left hook - because it is a crushing shot.

From round 4 to 5 I see Froch opening Bute up more, he'll be looking to make him miss and then chase him. Bute hasn't really shown what he's capable of on the back foot so I think thats where Froch will take the fight.


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Post by manos de piedra Fri 25 May 2012, 5:20 pm

Sounded like a home fight for Bute at the weigh in! He must have a big travelling support for this one.

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Post by Nico the gman Fri 25 May 2012, 5:22 pm

manos de piedra wrote:Sounded like a home fight for Bute at the weigh in! He must have a big travelling support for this one.
Not really Manos lot of eastern europeans in this country.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Fri 25 May 2012, 5:32 pm

Will be a Froch home fight come Saturday night

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Post by Duty281 Fri 25 May 2012, 7:51 pm

Froch to win by late late TKO!

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Post by azania Fri 25 May 2012, 7:53 pm

Bute by late KO. Body punches will weaken Cary to the extent he will be defending them when a left cross/hook lands flush.

I like Bute and I cannot lie.

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Post by KingMonkey Fri 25 May 2012, 8:26 pm

I like Watt but the bloke needs eyes. No eyes.

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Post by Rodney Fri 25 May 2012, 10:51 pm

Unfortunately see Bute winning about 8 rounds to 4, just a little better in most areas at this stage.

However as most can testify from the old beeb 606 my predictions are nothing short of woeful, however I did pick Wlad over Mormeck recently so maybes I'm improving.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Fri 25 May 2012, 10:55 pm

Rodney wrote:Unfortunately see Bute winning about 8 rounds to 4, just a little better in most areas at this stage.

However as most can testify from the old beeb 606 my predictions are nothing short of woeful, however I did pick Wlad over Mormeck recently so maybes I'm improving.

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Had to chuckle at Wlad v Mormek one

You are probably going to be right on Bute, I hope not, but logic says Bute points.

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Post by owen10ozzy Fri 25 May 2012, 11:07 pm

Im going for a Froch KO....9th round,..i actually see Froch having the early success then from rounds 4-7 I can see Bute slowly beginning to work him out...however due to Froch's quite insane chin and his come forward approach I see him grinding down Bute mentally before walking through him in Round 8 and then stopping him late in the 9th!!

If the fight goes exactly like that then I will be making sure I get some kind of nomination in the 606v2 awards!

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Post by Seanusarrilius Fri 25 May 2012, 11:19 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:Im going for a Froch KO....9th round,..i actually see Froch having the early success then from rounds 4-7 I can see Bute slowly beginning to work him out...however due to Froch's quite insane chin and his come forward approach I see him grinding down Bute mentally before walking through him in Round 8 and then stopping him late in the 9th!!

If the fight goes exactly like that then I will be making sure I get some kind of nomination in the 606v2 awards!

I have 3 quid on Froch KO, I will accept an honourary mention in your accpetance speech

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Post by PPVxHOTTY Fri 25 May 2012, 11:24 pm

Many people will have to agree that if Bute dosent knock Froch down at some point, it will be another hometown decision, that's why I would put my money on Froch points.

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Post by tunes666 Sat 26 May 2012, 12:48 am

hard one to call... people doubt Froch because of the Ward fight.. but how good is Ward?..

Frosh usually seems to be able to nullify his opponents strengths and because he is such a good athlete despite his age he seems to still be able to learn and improve ..

He struggles against speed so this could be a factor.. but I think if he can really turn the fight into a brawl and pull his sleeves up he might be able to take Bute into a place he has not been to before and beat him..

if it turns into a boxing contest I think Bute will just nick the rounds and leave Froch with too much to do, catching up..




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Post by Strongback Sat 26 May 2012, 5:07 am

I see Bute staying on the outside as usual and out boxing Froch. Bute to dish out his lethal upper cuts and body punches when Froch manages to corner Bute.

Froch to look clueless at times with Bute winning by decision, by 4 rounds or so. I don't see Carl getting KO'd, he's just too tough.

Hope I'm wrong though.

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Post by Steffan Sat 26 May 2012, 8:07 am

Strongback wrote:I see Bute staying on the outside as usual and out boxing Froch. Bute to dish out his lethal upper cuts and body punches when Froch manages to corner Bute.

Froch to look clueless at times with Bute winning by decision, by 4 rounds or so. I don't see Carl getting KO'd, he's just too tough.

Hope I'm wrong though.
Nah I dont see Froch getting KTFO either but heres hoping hey cider

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Post by Steffan Sat 26 May 2012, 8:44 am

alma wrote:If you take your anti-froch hat off Steffan, who do you think will win?

Btw I see Britain's fattest teenager is from aberdare. Friend of yours?
Froch by UD

Yeah I went out with her on a few dates last year. She said I wasnt her type though

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Post by Steffan Sat 26 May 2012, 9:07 am

alma wrote:Yeah you're better off with English girls!
Indeed. Thats why my girlfriend is one Very Happy

She is half Scottish as well mind so if we ever have kids they are gonna be a proper mix Laugh

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Post by KingMonkey Sat 26 May 2012, 11:00 am

I've got a feeling we're going to see something new from Carl, certainly a makeover from the Ward fight when he threw too many looping, wide shots. Short, sharp combos. In and out being watchful of the dangerous left hand counter.

Bute won't smother Froch a la Ward but his footwork and excellent head movement could dazzle him. Box in quickly, throw shots to the body (that doesn't move) and wear him down. Look to take him out late.


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