Pacquiao v Bradley a 2 fight deal?

I'm not sure how much is in it but it makes sense if Pacquiao loses but what if he hands it to Bradley?

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I dont see the sense in signing a 2 fight deal. Look at the froch/bute deal. What's the point of a rematch? A close and exciting will lead to calls for a rematch anyway.

Anyone feel that Arum is attempting to keep Pac in a place where he can't fight certain other 'challengers'? Either that or its bullhonkey.

Yes Alex, in short. I just hope that if this is close, Pac doesn't get gifted the decision.

With all the disruptions in his life and his focus being more spiritual, Pac may not be the same fighter - be interesting to see what Bradley can do against him.

From watching 24/7s I get that feeling Manny is too into God and other things to completely be committed to fighting, just getting more and more of a sense that we could see a huge upset.

Me too, but it would have to be so clear cut Alex, toherwise you know its 116-112 Pac. Can Bradley "dominate" him?

I don't think Manny is at his best anymore but I can't see Bradley being the guy to beat him. I do rate Bradley but his style is a not one that Manny has struggled with in the past.

I think it may be a possibility that the drive and confidence could be a huge factor and the adaptability of Bradley. His camp all seem very sure of a gameplan that they have devised so its possible we may be seeing something a bit different to what we're used to seeing from Bradley, all up in the air mind. I just don't believe you can win fights at the highest level if your heart and mind aren't fully committed, especially when you're against someone who has that in abundance.

True, people forget that Bradely is coming to win. He will look to take advantage of every chink in Pacs armour. Should be good

pac man never has the best prep before a fight, i doesnt seem to make a difference if his head is in the right place.

bellchees wrote:I don't think Manny is at his best anymore but I can't see Bradley being the guy to beat him. I do rate Bradley but his style is a not one that Manny has struggled with in the past.

What's the evidence that Manny is not at his best anymore?

His last fight was against JMM who will always give him fits. Prior to that was SSM who put up a non performance and Manny won every second of the fight. In fact he beat SSM more convincingly that Floyd did.

AlexHuckerby wrote:I think it may be a possibility that the drive and confidence could be a huge factor and the adaptability of Bradley. His camp all seem very sure of a gameplan that they have devised so its possible we may be seeing something a bit different to what we're used to seeing from Bradley, all up in the air mind. I just don't believe you can win fights at the highest level if your heart and mind aren't fully committed, especially when you're against someone who has that in abundance.

Game plans are one thing. They tend to fly out of the window when facing a buzz-saw throwing 100 punches per round.

I hate that term "game-plan" The only sensible thing Hopkins said is that boxing is not a game. You play games. You don't play boxing.

Hate to hear Pac is a buzz-saw, he's really not.

Ok

azania wrote:

bellchees wrote:I don't think Manny is at his best anymore but I can't see Bradley being the guy to beat him. I do rate Bradley but his style is a not one that Manny has struggled with in the past.

What's the evidence that Manny is not at his best anymore?

His last fight was against JMM who will always give him fits. Prior to that was SSM who put up a non performance and Manny won every second of the fight. In fact he beat SSM more convincingly that Floyd did.

I just think he looked very flat and a bit slower than previously against Mosley and Marquez, both his hand and foot speed didn't seem as quick to me.

bellchees wrote:

azania wrote:

bellchees wrote:I don't think Manny is at his best anymore but I can't see Bradley being the guy to beat him. I do rate Bradley but his style is a not one that Manny has struggled with in the past.

What's the evidence that Manny is not at his best anymore?

His last fight was against JMM who will always give him fits. Prior to that was SSM who put up a non performance and Manny won every second of the fight. In fact he beat SSM more convincingly that Floyd did.

I just think he looked very flat and a bit slower than previously against Mosley and Marquez, both his hand and foot speed didn't seem as quick to me.

I didn't see any depreciation in speed against either. I saw that JMM having his number and a lack of a Plan B against Mosely though.

Because Manny for how great he is really has no clue on how to set up attacks to people that circle to his right. (Marquez 3 times, Morales, Barrera in the second fight, Mosley)

AlexHuckerby wrote:Because Manny for how great he is really has no clue on how to set up attacks to people that circle to his right. (Marquez 3 times, Morales, Barrera in the second fight, Mosley)

Outside of JMM, he beat the others convincingly (Morales was weight drained in their rematch imo). SSM was a near shut out. How much more convincing can you get? The others are seriously good fighters.

azania wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Because Manny for how great he is really has no clue on how to set up attacks to people that circle to his right. (Marquez 3 times, Morales, Barrera in the second fight, Mosley)

Outside of JMM, he beat the others convincingly (Morales was weight drained in their rematch imo). SSM was a near shut out. How much more convincing can you get? The others are seriously good fighters.

No doubt, but you have to take everything in perspective, SSM showed that Pac doesn't how to set up attacks if you circle to the right which was Nazim Richardson was telling him, he just didn't have it in him to fire back to do the job. Barrera 2, similar case, realised what Morales and JMM had done and attempted to mimic, but didn't have enough left at this stage to do it and the score was surely a lot closer than what the judges had them. JMM has clearly showed it 3 times and Morales once. No doubt these are fantastic fighters and theres no shame in the weakness, but if those tactics wee employed by a SSM (Especially) or maybe Barrera that were capable of doing the job theres no doubt in my mind Manny loses or at least goes to a squeeky decision.

When fighting a south paw the obvious thing is to circle to the right. Only an elite fighter can beat Paq and Bradley is not the one. No doubt he will circle the right and keep to it as he is very disciplined. But he is a level below Paq. Also a level below MAB and Morales who couldn't do the job.

Is Manny fighting at full WW limit now?

Yes the Marquez fight was a catch weight of 144lbs at the request of Marquez.