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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 4:09 pm

1. Greg Richardson
2. Johnny Nelson
3. Michael Nunn
4. Eusebio Pedroza
5. Winky Wright
6. Hector Camacho (87-)
7. Greg Page
8. Ossie Ocasio
9. Pernell Whittaker
10. James Broad.........................

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Post by Seanusarrilius Sat 02 Jun 2012, 5:00 pm

Johnny Nelson always pops up on these lists, ha.

Not my top ten but Ihate the style of fighting being popularized by the likes of Carlos Molina and Andre Ward. Whent he going gets tough, the tough get grappling. Hit hold, head, hold, walk to the ropes arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sat 02 Jun 2012, 5:03 pm

Truss mate I thought you would have had at least 1 Klitschko on it. I'm surprised to see Wright and Sweet Pea on it mind you.
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Post by milkyboy Sat 02 Jun 2012, 5:06 pm

never thought anyone could come up with a list of top 10 stinkers without a-force... so good work fella.

i take it you've never seen rob norton fight either... in which case consider yourself a lucky man

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 5:15 pm

A-force wasn't good enough to go on the list..

James Broad was Ali compared to him.......

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Post by milkyboy Sat 02 Jun 2012, 5:22 pm

ah... it was top 10 stinkers who could fight! Nelson can count himself lucky to make it then

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sat 02 Jun 2012, 5:37 pm

Eubanks after Watson

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Post by Lance Sat 02 Jun 2012, 5:39 pm

calzaghe.

lacy, kessler and a few others dont make up for the countless turgid nights he provided on british tv

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Post by eddyfightfan Sat 02 Jun 2012, 6:29 pm

haye vs harrison probably the worst world title fight in history

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sat 02 Jun 2012, 6:49 pm

Johnny Nelson had a few that give it a good run for its money.
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Post by ShahenshahG Sat 02 Jun 2012, 6:51 pm

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sat 02 Jun 2012, 6:53 pm

Top of my list he makes Nelson look like Aaron Pryor. He is a bell-end as well.
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Post by Steffan Sat 02 Jun 2012, 7:03 pm

ShahenshahG wrote:Witter
Agree. Always found the other Sheffield fighter Clinton Woods a bit boring as well. His fight with Tarver was really abysmal

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Post by EdWoodjr Sat 02 Jun 2012, 7:18 pm

Has John Ruiz ever been in a fight that wasn't a stinker ? B-Hop's track record isn't much better.

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Post by paperbag_puncher Sat 02 Jun 2012, 7:52 pm

EdWoodjr wrote:Has John Ruiz ever been in a fight that wasn't a stinker ? B-Hop's track record isn't much better.

Ruiz is a good shout disagree with Hopkins though.

People sometimes forget that hes in his 40s and will do whatever he thinks is necessary to win at this stage. If being cagey and spoiling is whats necessary then thats what hes going to do. He wasn't always like that. I find him intriguing to watch and hes had some masterful performances. Watching him dominate Trinidad, Tarver, Glen Johnson and Pavlik is anything but boring.

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Post by 88Chris05 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:18 pm

Never mind Hopkins - his fallen foe Tarver must be a better option. Jones I & III, Woods, Muriqi etc - some truly awful bouts.

In particularly, Jones-Tarver I must rank as one of the worst Light-Heavyweight title fights I've ever seen. A stinker of the highest order.
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Post by Strongback Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:39 pm

It would seem Truss has made an oversight as I don't see Haye's name on the list............. but then again maybe he "wasn't good enough to go on the list.."


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Post by Guest Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:41 pm

I may be way wide of the mark here and I can't confess to have seen all of his fights but whenever I watched Howard Eastman he totally bored the hell out of me.


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Post by EdWoodjr Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:00 pm

FreekShow wrote:I may be way wide of the mark here and I can't confess to have seen all of his fights but whenever I watched Howard Eastman he totally bored the hell out of me.


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Post by DavidBlunkettsuppercut Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:15 pm

Yes Johnny Nelson comes to mind he was soooooo entertaining.
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Post by Guest Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:16 pm

DavidBlunkettsuppercut wrote:Yes Johnny Nelson comes to mind he was soooooo entertaining.

I suppose that if you box in a skirt you'd be half expected to hit like a girl.

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Post by DavidBlunkettsuppercut Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:22 pm

FreekShow wrote:
DavidBlunkettsuppercut wrote:Yes Johnny Nelson comes to mind he was soooooo entertaining.

I suppose that if you box in a skirt you'd be half expected to hit like a girl.

Laugh
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Post by EdWoodjr Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:45 pm

FreekShow wrote:
DavidBlunkettsuppercut wrote:Yes Johnny Nelson comes to mind he was soooooo entertaining.

I suppose that if you box in a skirt you'd be half expected to hit like a girl.

According to Boxrec, Nelson's nickname was 'The Entertainer' Laugh

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Post by Guest Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:49 pm

EdWoodjr wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
DavidBlunkettsuppercut wrote:Yes Johnny Nelson comes to mind he was soooooo entertaining.

I suppose that if you box in a skirt you'd be half expected to hit like a girl.

According to Boxrec, Nelson's nickname was 'The Entertainer' Laugh

That's a bit like calling Naseem Hamed subdued.

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Post by The Galveston Giant Sat 02 Jun 2012, 10:03 pm

Sven Ottke was pretty bad to watch, Henry Akinwande, Tony Oakey, John Ruiz.
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Post by milkyboy Sat 02 Jun 2012, 10:11 pm

bit harsh on johnny ruiz... the tua fight was great to watch

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Post by The Beast Sun 03 Jun 2012, 9:02 am

Got to agree with Johnny Nelson being high on the list.

How about Matthew Barney always seemed to be very negative IMO.

On the subject of negative styles I recall Pat Barrett losing a World Title fight to Manning Galloway who virtually threw himself to the floor to avoid taking shots.

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Post by Guest Sun 03 Jun 2012, 11:52 am

Steffan wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:Witter
Agree. Always found the other Sheffield fighter Clinton Woods a bit boring as well. His fight with Tarver was really abysmal
Whereas his fights with Hoye and Gonzalez were crackers so it might be prudent for you to think before you speak Steffan....wait, what am I saying?

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun 03 Jun 2012, 11:54 am

DAVE667 wrote:
Steffan wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:Witter
Agree. Always found the other Sheffield fighter Clinton Woods a bit boring as well. His fight with Tarver was really abysmal
Whereas his fights with Hoye and Gonzalez were crackers so it might be prudent for you to think before you speak Steffan....wait, what am I saying?

I would tend to agree with Steffanny. With the odd exception to the rule Clinton Woods was in some terrible fights. Or are people not allowed to hold that opinion?
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Post by Guest Sun 03 Jun 2012, 12:06 pm

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Steffan wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:Witter
Agree. Always found the other Sheffield fighter Clinton Woods a bit boring as well. His fight with Tarver was really abysmal
Whereas his fights with Hoye and Gonzalez were crackers so it might be prudent for you to think before you speak Steffan....wait, what am I saying?

I would tend to agree with Steffanny. With the odd exception to the rule Clinton Woods was in some terrible fights. Or are people not allowed to hold that opinion?
Just seems a bizarre choice when you consider he's been put up against the likes of Nelson and Witter. Why not pick Tony Oakley or Ensley Bingham? What about Anthony Darnell? What about Roy Jones Int who treated us to some of the most dire World title fights? Woods was a good honest pro who never claimed to be the best in the World. Just think Steffy is being a tad harsh

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Post by Steffan Sun 03 Jun 2012, 12:27 pm

Whatever fellas. This forum is joke nowadays. Cant even pass an opinion without someone ripping your head off. Thats the internet I guess though

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun 03 Jun 2012, 12:36 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Steffan wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:Witter
Agree. Always found the other Sheffield fighter Clinton Woods a bit boring as well. His fight with Tarver was really abysmal
Whereas his fights with Hoye and Gonzalez were crackers so it might be prudent for you to think before you speak Steffan....wait, what am I saying?

I would tend to agree with Steffanny. With the odd exception to the rule Clinton Woods was in some terrible fights. Or are people not allowed to hold that opinion?
Just seems a bizarre choice when you consider he's been put up against the likes of Nelson and Witter. Why not pick Tony Oakley or Ensley Bingham? What about Anthony Darnell? What about Roy Jones Int who treated us to some of the most dire World title fights? Woods was a good honest pro who never claimed to be the best in the World. Just think Steffy is being a tad harsh

Everyone likes different styles. Truss had Pernell Whitaker on his list. I would rather watch Sweet P in his prime schooling good fighters than the Gatti vs Ward trilogy. A lot of people would have the Klitschkos on their list but I enjoy watching them. Maybe I'm just a bit weird but I would rather watch one guy who is special school a good fighter than watch 2 average fighters slug it out with very little skill involved.
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Post by Guest Sun 03 Jun 2012, 12:38 pm

Steffan wrote:Whatever fellas. This forum is joke nowadays. Cant even pass an opinion without someone ripping your head off. Thats the internet I guess though
Maybe you should quit then, Steffo. Seems like it would make you happy and it would certainly make me smile. Yahoo

I'm kidding, I like you Steffan...in fact, I'm one of the few on here who do.

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SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Steffan wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:Witter
Agree. Always found the other Sheffield fighter Clinton Woods a bit boring as well. His fight with Tarver was really abysmal
Whereas his fights with Hoye and Gonzalez were crackers so it might be prudent for you to think before you speak Steffan....wait, what am I saying?

I would tend to agree with Steffanny. With the odd exception to the rule Clinton Woods was in some terrible fights. Or are people not allowed to hold that opinion?
Just seems a bizarre choice when you consider he's been put up against the likes of Nelson and Witter. Why not pick Tony Oakley or Ensley Bingham? What about Anthony Darnell? What about Roy Jones Int who treated us to some of the most dire World title fights? Woods was a good honest pro who never claimed to be the best in the World. Just think Steffy is being a tad harsh

Everyone likes different styles. Truss had Pernell Whitaker on his list. I would rather watch Sweet P in his prime schooling good fighters than the Gatti vs Ward trilogy. A lot of people would have the Klitschkos on their list but I enjoy watching them. Maybe I'm just a bit weird but I would rather watch one guy who is special school a good fighter than watch 2 average fighters slug it out with very little skill involved.
Are you saying Woods wasn't skilled? He may not have been setting the World alight but he had very sound fundamentals and held a genuine World Strap. He faced RJJ in his prime and went six rounds with him. He fought Glen Johnson three times back when Johnson was still regarded as a damned good fighter and his loss to Tarver was due to him having hepatitis

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun 03 Jun 2012, 12:56 pm

I wasn't saying Woods wasn't skilled he clearly was but not in a way that entertains. Like Johnny Nelson he did the best with what he had. I wouldn't have backed him to beat Tarver even if he had no health issues.

Everyone likes different styles someone else mentioned B-Hop would be on their list. I love watching B-Hop don't me wrong he's been in a few stinkers but imo he has performances that more than make up for it. Against Trinidad and Pavlik he was outstanding and it entertained me.
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Post by davidemore Sun 03 Jun 2012, 1:02 pm

Canelo, hype over entertainment.

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Post by paperbag_puncher Sun 03 Jun 2012, 2:09 pm

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:
Everyone likes different styles. Truss had Pernell Whitaker on his list. I would rather watch Sweet P in his prime schooling good fighters than the Gatti vs Ward trilogy. A lot of people would have the Klitschkos on their list but I enjoy watching them. Maybe I'm just a bit weird but I would rather watch one guy who is special school a good fighter than watch 2 average fighters slug it out with very little skill involved.

What about skilled fighters slugging it out like Morales and Barrera or Vasquez and Marquez? Do you prefer watching Sweet pea or the Klitschkos to fights like that?

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun 03 Jun 2012, 2:16 pm

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SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:
Everyone likes different styles. Truss had Pernell Whitaker on his list. I would rather watch Sweet P in his prime schooling good fighters than the Gatti vs Ward trilogy. A lot of people would have the Klitschkos on their list but I enjoy watching them. Maybe I'm just a bit weird but I would rather watch one guy who is special school a good fighter than watch 2 average fighters slug it out with very little skill involved.

What about skilled fighters slugging it out like Morales and Barrera or Vasquez and Marquez? Do you prefer watching Sweet pea or the Klitschkos to fights like that?

Barrera vs Morales trilogy every time. Vazquez vs Marquez was fantastic as well. It's not the same as watching Micky Ward scrap with everyone because it was all he could do. These guys are top class fighters and can do so much more than just tough it out.
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Post by paperbag_puncher Sun 03 Jun 2012, 2:25 pm

Cool. So you don't mind a good slugfest as long as theres a bit of skill involved rather than 2 lads wind milling each other.

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Post by EdWoodjr Sun 03 Jun 2012, 8:58 pm

88Chris05 wrote:Never mind Hopkins - his fallen foe Tarver must be a better option. Jones I & III, Woods, Muriqi etc - some truly awful bouts.

In particularly, Jones-Tarver I must rank as one of the worst Light-Heavyweight title fights I've ever seen. A stinker of the highest order.

Tarver's a decent shout. In the 5th of his 'fight' with Kayode and I've seen enough and, as I write this, the boos are starting. It's like watching jelly set.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun 03 Jun 2012, 9:16 pm

I've been saying for ages that the Gatti and Ward fights aren't the fights you want to show a casual fan, it was one fairly good fighter and one average fighter going hell for leather, no technical ability seen at all.

Barrera vs Morales
Marquez vs Vazquez
Castillo vs Corrales

Now they are top draw fights with thrill a minute excitement, you get the slugging but it's done with sublime technical ability, Castillos body work against Corrales was first draw.

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Post by Steffan Sun 03 Jun 2012, 9:38 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Steffan wrote:Whatever fellas. This forum is joke nowadays. Cant even pass an opinion without someone ripping your head off. Thats the internet I guess though
Maybe you should quit then, Steffo. Seems like it would make you happy and it would certainly make me smile. Yahoo

I'm kidding, I like you Steffan...in fact, I'm one of the few on here who do.
Sorry been arguing with the misses all day. Think I vented a bit of frustration on here. No need for it. Why do they have to be such hard work hey Headscratch

Anyway was no disrespect to Clinton Woods he is a good sort just always found his fights boring. Bruno though same. Always cheered on big Frank but never saw him in a fight that made me jump out of my seat

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Post by azania Sun 03 Jun 2012, 9:47 pm

I jumped out of my seat when Lennox nailed him. Or was it falling out of my seat laughing. Can't remember.

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Post by Steffan Sun 03 Jun 2012, 10:20 pm

azania wrote:I jumped out of my seat when Lennox nailed him. Or was it falling out of my seat laughing. Can't remember.
My brother was at that fight at the old Cardiff Arms Park. Good performance from Frank but Lennox was always incharge. Think I did cheer on Bruno to be fair Laugh

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Post by TheMackemMawler Tue 05 Jun 2012, 2:08 pm

FreekShow wrote:I may be way wide of the mark here and I can't confess to have seen all of his fights but whenever I watched Howard Eastman he totally bored the hell out of me.



Early on I vaguely remember thinking he was an exciting fighter, then something happened.... I think he began to share a ring with people who could fight.

Worst fight ever has to be Lewis Vs Akinwande
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