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Post by maestegmafia Sun 17 Jun 2012, 3:40 pm

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Game over...!



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Post by welshy6 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:23 pm

and his pauses at scrum are ridiculous

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Post by Scoped Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:23 pm

Standulstermen wrote:
Scoped wrote:This is some of the most disgusting refereeing I've ever seen. He was fine for the fist half but after giving NZ a full arm penalty for an early engagement and then Wales only a free kick a minute later is just diabolical not to mention the breakdown has turned into a farce.

Is that genuine? Can't believe that.

You mean the inconsistency or my opinion?
Also most recent penalty for playing ball on the ground despite the fact that he just picked it up to drive, perfectly legitimate.

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Post by wales606 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:24 pm

Ref should be cited for that urine poor decision. Refusing to use the TMO is ludicrous.
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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:24 pm

Take nothing away from the Baby Blacks, but do us a favour and take that blydi ref off to soccerland

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Post by Lord Sprey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:24 pm

This is becoming laughable now, suppose you cant have little wales beating the mighty All Blacks

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Post by sugarNspikes Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:24 pm

Can we stop blaming the ref (again)! Rolling Eyes

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Post by welshy6 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:25 pm

also this is not just this game but does the law about releasing the player before jackaling still count because it is not bloody reffed.

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:25 pm

we're not blaming the ref sugar, we're actually questioning his decisions which even the commentary team are baffled by. There is a difference.

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Post by wales606 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:26 pm

The Baby Blacks have been better, but the ref has ruined the spectacle. Completely ruined any chance of a competition in this semi final.
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Post by doctornickolas Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:26 pm

Ref having a nightmare at the set piece - funnily enough where Wales had a massive advantage. Fed up of poor refs from the SH.

Just getting reffed out of this. IRB want NZ in the final again.


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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:26 pm

rhonddasmackhead wrote:NZ are a joke.

They trawl the south seas like a giant fishing net raping islands of their resources.

Some people should learn to not mix booze and posting. Sayonara.
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Post by maestegmafia Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:26 pm

Its all turning into a mess this half... Players are doing very well to remain composed and not react to these bizarre decisions.

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Post by yappysnap Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:26 pm

It's lovely to watch the AB's starting young at and this level playing the ball on the deck while off their feet, Mccaw seems to have lent them his cload of invisability too

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Post by welshy6 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:27 pm

what surely that should go to tmo????

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Post by mckay1402 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:27 pm

fix!
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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:27 pm

RDS - agree with you the BB's have been very good, taken all their chances well (think they've just scored another too) but that doesn't take from the fact that inconsistencies in the refereeing has made this game very difficult to compete in. Refusing to award a legitimate try is just the icing on a very horrible cake.

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Post by wales606 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:27 pm

steam

This game is horrible to watch, NZ can do no wrong apparently.
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Post by Shifty Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:28 pm

sugarNspikes wrote:Can we stop blaming the ref (again)! Rolling Eyes

No one is disputing New Zealand are a better team today, but jesus the referee is giving Wales no chance at all. It's hard enough to play them anyway but when the ref won't allow you to compete and play, or use any advantages you have, there is not much point in trying.
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Post by TycroesOsprey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:28 pm

Im sorry but this ref is only officiating one side at the moment. I think the welsh mgmt would be in the rights to make a complaint about this ref and I dont ever say that.

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Post by maestegmafia Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:28 pm

wales606 wrote:The Baby Blacks have been better, but the ref has ruined the spectacle. Completely ruined any chance of a competition in this semi final.

No doubt, this AB team is superb and they deserve their win but the game fell apart this half and that was not due to either teams performance and purely by the way the game has not been consistently adjudicated.

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Post by wales606 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:28 pm

welshy6 wrote:what surely that should go to tmo????

The ref doesnt believe in TMOs
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Post by sugarNspikes Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:28 pm

rugbydreamer wrote:we're not blaming the ref sugar, we're actually questioning his decisions which even the commentary team are baffled by. There is a difference.
I think if you read back there are plenty who are. It just ends up looking like poor losers to be honest. I know all fans complain a bit, but let's just say some do it a lot more than others.

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Post by Lord Sprey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:28 pm

Thort there were hands underneath that ball then

Ref reluctant to go to the TMO for some reason

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Post by welshy6 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:28 pm

oh FFS that was held up you could see in the replay?????

just a note AB are the better side but the ref is shoite

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:28 pm

ref is having a nightmare but just a bit of balance the last scrum on the NZ line the JABs had the nudge & the number 8 made a great break off the advantage.

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:29 pm

no sugar I don't, we're annoyed at the refereeing but I can't see anywhere where we state we've been better then the BB's? You're just reading what you want to I'm afraid.

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Post by Lord Sprey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:30 pm

Morgan off, WHY???

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Post by maestegmafia Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:31 pm

rugbydreamer wrote:no sugar I don't, we're annoyed at the refereeing but I can't see anywhere where we state we've been better then the BB's? You're just reading what you want to I'm afraid.

Please dont feed the Trolls RD...!

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:31 pm

rugbydreamer wrote:RDS - agree with you the BB's have been very good, taken all their chances well (think they've just scored another too) but that doesn't take from the fact that inconsistencies in the refereeing has made this game very difficult to compete in. Refusing to award a legitimate try is just the icing on a very horrible cake.

Frustrating to say the least. I'm not a fan of ref bashing, makes us look sore losers etc... but this one... geeesss

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Post by wales606 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:31 pm

Wales get a clean lineout, but cant play it because the ref hasn't set his watch.

They redo the lineout and Wales lose it.

Abysmal
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Post by mckay1402 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:31 pm

Actually I don't believe ABs are better. Every time Wales get a head of steam up the ref gives something unseen against them and they lose field position.

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It's easy to say that old chestnut isn't it. Makes you feel clever to do that old belittle the welsh thing eh? Wales are equal to this Baby blacks team and the ref is making the difference.
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Post by welshy6 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:32 pm

what why is morgan off, 24 points behind we need to attack not kick, and davies can tackle!!!!


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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:32 pm

I know Maes, I know. Just baffles me how people just read what they want to, makes them look a bit daft I guess OK


Bah another lost lineout. Does anyone else find it rather depressing that we are making the same mistakes as the senior side? Poor kicking and lineouts costing us again. most annoying.

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:32 pm

sugarNspikes wrote:
rugbydreamer wrote:we're not blaming the ref sugar, we're actually questioning his decisions which even the commentary team are baffled by. There is a difference.
I think if you read back there are plenty who are. It just ends up looking like poor losers to be honest. I know all fans complain a bit, but let's just say some do it a lot more than others.

So as an English fan Cyril, would you be happy if that happened to your team? The truck and trailer decision is a dreadful call. Instead of trying to bait people, try offering a worthwhile opinion.

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Post by sugarNspikes Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:32 pm

rugbydreamer wrote:no sugar I don't, we're annoyed at the refereeing but I can't see anywhere where we state we've been better then the BB's? You're just reading what you want to I'm afraid.
I never said anything about Wales being better. It's clear that isn't the case. Maybe if there hadn't been so much complaining by some on here recently it would hold more water. But, it's after every, single game now.


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Post by maestegmafia Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:32 pm

Sick of the Kiwis naming every single player as coming from the Valleys whether they are from Breeecon or Carmarthenshire...

Oh for the days of Bill McClaren

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Don't think this poster knows how to Rev.

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Post by welshy6 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:33 pm

mckay1402 wrote:Actually I don't believe ABs are better. Every time Wales get a head of steam up the ref gives something unseen against them and they lose field position.

Sugarnspikes

It's easy to say that old chestnut isn't it. Makes you feel clever to do that old belittle the welsh thing eh? Wales are equal to this Baby blacks team and the ref is making the difference.

McKay its nice to see england doing so wel.... oh wait yeh, 25-5 to ireland, for 5th place? wales will be at least 4th

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Post by maestegmafia Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:33 pm

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sugarNspikes wrote:
rugbydreamer wrote:we're not blaming the ref sugar, we're actually questioning his decisions which even the commentary team are baffled by. There is a difference.
I think if you read back there are plenty who are. It just ends up looking like poor losers to be honest. I know all fans complain a bit, but let's just say some do it a lot more than others.

So as an English fan Cyril, would you be happy if that happened to your team? The truck and trailer decision is a dreadful call. Instead of trying to bait people, try offering a worthwhile opinion.

Here here...! Well said

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Post by mckay1402 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:34 pm

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rugbydreamer wrote:no sugar I don't, we're annoyed at the refereeing but I can't see anywhere where we state we've been better then the BB's? You're just reading what you want to I'm afraid.
I never said anything about that Wales being better. It's clear that isn't the case. Maybe if there hadn't been so much complaining by some on here recently it would hold more water. But, it's after every, single game now.

It's a rugby forum. people are going to disagree with the ref.
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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:34 pm

Sugar - maybe that's because refereeing standards, everywhere, are pretty poor? Just a thought.

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:34 pm

mckay1402 wrote:Actually I don't believe ABs are better. Every time Wales get a head of steam up the ref gives something unseen against them and they lose field position.

Sugarnspikes

It's easy to say that old chestnut isn't it. Makes you feel clever to do that old belittle the welsh thing eh? Wales are equal to this Baby blacks team and the ref is making the difference.

I disagree the better side are winning. the ref is not good & it is very frustrating if you are losing end of.

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:35 pm

welshy6 wrote:
mckay1402 wrote:Actually I don't believe ABs are better. Every time Wales get a head of steam up the ref gives something unseen against them and they lose field position.

Sugarnspikes

It's easy to say that old chestnut isn't it. Makes you feel clever to do that old belittle the welsh thing eh? Wales are equal to this Baby blacks team and the ref is making the difference.

McKay its nice to see england doing so wel.... oh wait yeh, 25-5 to ireland, for 5th place? wales will be at least 4th

think that was a bit uncalled for Welshy.

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BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
mckay1402 wrote:Actually I don't believe ABs are better. Every time Wales get a head of steam up the ref gives something unseen against them and they lose field position.

Sugarnspikes

It's easy to say that old chestnut isn't it. Makes you feel clever to do that old belittle the welsh thing eh? Wales are equal to this Baby blacks team and the ref is making the difference.

I disagree the better side are winning. the ref is not good & it is very frustrating if you are losing end of.

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Post by maestegmafia Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:35 pm

rugbydreamer wrote:I know Maes, I know. Just baffles me how people just read what they want to, makes them look a bit daft I guess OK

Well do something about it... It is his constant Modus Operandi and you have house rules against Trolling.


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Post by sugarNspikes Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:35 pm

rugbydreamer wrote:Sugar - maybe that's because refereeing standards, everywhere, are pretty poor? Just a thought.
I wouldn't disagree that there is sometimes some poor refereeing, but to say that it makes more than a 20-point swing is a bit rich.

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Post by Shifty Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:36 pm

The ref is now giving a shed load of penalties to Wales to even up the stats so no one can accuse him of bias at the end of the game.
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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:36 pm

sugarNspikes wrote:
rugbydreamer wrote:no sugar I don't, we're annoyed at the refereeing but I can't see anywhere where we state we've been better then the BB's? You're just reading what you want to I'm afraid.
I never said anything about Wales being better. It's clear that isn't the case. Maybe if there hadn't been so much complaining by some on here recently it would hold more water. But, it's after every, single game now.

So you just come on here to check if we're still bitchin'?

Don't have to, do you?

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Post by welshy6 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:36 pm

sorry RD, just getting frustrated and i know i shouldnt bite, but i was also being factual.

so i shall put a more positive slant on that

wales will be at least 4th, which is much better than last year!

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Post by wales606 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:36 pm

Playing the ball off your feet is ok, as long as you are playing in black apparently.
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