Guscotts World XV based on the Summer Tours.

Guscott's world XV based on this years summer tours

Israel Dagg; Julian Savea, Pat McCabe, Sonny Bill Williams, Bryan Habana; Berrick Barnes, Will Genia; Tendai 'Beast' Mtawarira, Bismarck du Plessis, Dan Cole , Eben Etzebeth, Juandre Kruger, Scott Higginbotham, David Pocock, Kieran Read.

Has he watched any games yet?

I'm pretty sure, if he could get away with it, he'd just select himself 15 times. Man is a prize cockchomper.

I presume that as a matter of course Jezzabel excluded the Argentina, Italy and France matches from his erstwhile consideration.

Carpe Diem wrote:I'm pretty sure, if he could get away with it, he'd just select himself 15 times. Man is a prize cockchomper.

No youngs at 9? The man is losing it. Surprised he didn't select Henson at 12 as well......

A lot of them are actaully what I would think, but some are not

In fact, Scotland should have them all - just to make it easy

Some baffling decisions in that, as you'd expect with Guscott. How Pat "Average At Best" McCabe gets in there ahead of BOD, who has been in incredible form is ridiculous. The beast in there despite his inability to scrum legally is another random one. I'm sure that there some better than SBW aswell.

belovedfrosties wrote:Some baffling decisions in that, as you'd expect with Guscott. How Pat "Average At Best" McCabe gets in there ahead of BOD, who has been in incredible form is ridiculous. The beast in there despite his inability to scrum legally is another random one. I'm sure that there some better than SBW aswell.

BOD was horrible in the first test dont try sugarcoat it , Pat Average at best has been dependably solid and unyielding in that aussie line as i'm sure a few welshies will confirm

I often feel, when reading his pieces on the BBC site, that he probably doesn't watch a lot of the games he discusses. He just plucks names out of the air who have been mentioned in headlines or perhaps by other writers. This team also has that feel to it.

A few questions, for example:

McCabe has been playing 12 and Rob Horne 13. Horne has impressed in the 2 games vs Wales, maybe he is thinking of Horne at 13 for his team? Still wouldn't pick him myself but it would make a bit more sense.

Barnes, Australia's 4th choice flyhalf, is the best in the world?

Savea, after 2 caps - a good game and a bad game, is there?

Habana, having a solid but not particularly spectacular season after a few poor ones by his standard, and he's probably been SA's second best winger this series, picked?

Two more 2 cappers in the SR, a bit early to make those sort of calls don't you think? (Although I wouldn't be surprised to see McVisser in a few people's dream teams after 1 game.)

I think it was meant to be more of a selection purely from the last 2 weeks games, so some of these become more understandable, but calling it a 'current World XV' is misleading. Guscott is a muppet though so we shouldn't expect much different.

I think Cuthbert should be in there, he has been magnificent for Wales, as has 1/2p, although I wouldn't argue against Dagg who has been immense.

No Dan Carter or Conrad Smith,or Franz Steyn.,The Beast as a prop?laughable when he learns how to Scrummage maybe.

Barnes over Carter? Anyone over Conrad Smith? (who incidentally is the classiest centre in the game). Read no more......I doubt he watched all the games. He got a few right - luck I guess.

I can just quietly smile every time I hear Beast cannot scrum.

He ain't the best around, but to suggest he cannot scrum is frankly rather humorous.

Dan Cole spent most of the tour walking backwards

Meters run with ball ZERO
Turnovers ZERO
He has give away 5 penalties
Tackles made 14
Tackles missed 5
Over two games

Guscotts need to fit an English man into his world 15's is hilarious.

Just an FYI view - firstly Cole made a very clear steal at the breakdown in the SA test, if you watched the game you would have seen that for yourself and not relied on the stats. Secondly, if you are getting your stats from ESPN, the stats point out turnovers conceded, not won. Were you not wondering why the turnover stats looked a bit odd?

I think someone is just a little annoyed that there are no welshmen in there, eh?

viewtothegym wrote:Dan Cole spent most of the tour walking backwards


Turnovers ZERO

Your stats, or where you got them from are wrong.

Turnovers on stats is turnovers given up. We've been over this...

Nope your wrong im right.

ChequeredJersey wrote:Turnovers on stats is turnovers given up. We've been over this...

I find it hilarious that he actually believes that Youngs therefore made the most turnovers in the game with 4!

Nice one view.

Not been impressed by Sonny Bill and the Beast was well and truly tamed by Cole last weekend.

viewtothegym wrote:Nope your wrong im right.

Then have a quick check at the stats during the world cup. Warburton made 1 turnover during the entire campaign if that is what the stats mean. If you actually watched the games for yourself though, that is clearly not the case.

Not to mention the fact it is the backs who have the highest number under the turnover statistic.

gusscot=legend

viewtothegym wrote:Dan Cole spent most of the tour walking backwards


Turnovers ZERO

oh dear- so cole conceades no turnovers and you think he is rubbish- lols

http://www.espnscrum.com/england-tour-2012/rugby/match/154472.html


this is the first game- look at turnovers conceaded 17 SA and 13 England.

then add up the turnovers on the individual player stats- mits 13 eng and 17 under the sa names..

T/O's on stats are allways turnovers conceded- i have no idea why they dont give us turnovers made- but that is that

Too hard to tell who won a turnover in many rucks

yeah thats what i was thinking

I feel like Rennie and Gray missed out on this world XV! Why is pocock in there after being torn apart a couple of weeks ago?! Rennie's at least shown consistency in the SH tours. Gray is always a worldbeater and is still pretty firmly nailing his name onto the Lions list, as he has been doing for the last 2 years!

Well, I agree with Read and Bismark on Guscott's list...

NeilyBroon wrote:I feel like Rennie and Gray missed out on this world XV! Why is pocock in there after being torn apart a couple of weeks ago?! Rennie's at least shown consistency in the SH tours. Gray is always a worldbeater and is still pretty firmly nailing his name onto the Lions list, as he has been doing for the last 2 years!

He's the best in the world and 2 superb games out of 3 is enough to put him in a World XV

Guscott.......a little self obsessed - check. Most of the rest of the us? - Also, check.
Guscott......a genuine, world class international who has lived rugby at the highest level most of his adult life - check. Most of the rest of us? - NOPE
Ah well.....I guess if you can at least see a gym you must have insurmountable knowledge of how to use it!

Yeah but you've got to say he's said some pretty dubious things, and being an excellent international doesn't make you an excellent pundit- see Paul Ackford. I'd say Barnes too but nah

Saw this team the other day.

Man has no clue.

SBW in the centre? Really? He has done nothing, yet he leaves out BOD and Smith.

Thats just one of many problems with this teams, leaving out the best winger in the world Ioane for another, no Alberts, Dagg has done nothing.

I guess it is based solely on the Summer tour games, or Barnes would be nowhere near

Guscott is normally very pro Welsh in his comments & assessments over recent years.

Whilst I don't agree with some selections (Beast wtf !) to have no welsh players in the team is about right. Most have under performed except 1/2p but Dagg deserves his spot.

Cole has been outstanding

1. Cian Healy
2. Bismarck de Plessis
3. Dan Cole
4. Eben Etzebeth
5. Juandre Kruger
6. Willem Alberts
7. Pocock
8. Read
9. Genia
10. Carter
11. Habana
12. Don't know
13. Don't know
14. Savea
15. Halfpenny

wales606 wrote:Saw this team the other day.

Man has no clue.

SBW in the centre? Really? He has done nothing, yet he leaves out BOD and Smith.

Thats just one of many problems with this teams, leaving out the best winger in the world Ioane for another, no Alberts, Dagg has done nothing.

I guess it is based solely on the Summer tour games, or Barnes would be nowhere near

The clue is in th the title Wales606

guys these world 15's are just a bit of fun and highly subjective, i dont see the point of berating guscott for his choices but how he didnt spot that ioane has clearly been the best winger i have no idea, the ignorant fool!

I dont know when Guscott selected his World Xv based on the the summer tours, but at best it could only have been after two thirds of the games had been played , had he had the patience to wait a few more days he could have done his selections after 100 % of the games.

Maybe he had to get his team out early because he thought the public couldnt wait any longer.... little does he know.

aucklandlaurie wrote: I dont know when Guscott selected his World Xv based on the the summer tours, but at best it could only have been after two thirds of the games had been played , had he had the patience to wait a few more days he could have done his selections after 100 % of the games.

Maybe he had to get his team out early because he thought the public couldnt wait any longer.... little does he know.

It was just a question he was given on the BBC's Q&A. He simply answered the question when he was asked it. Nothing to do with lack of patience.

Heres the link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/18509728

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:

wales606 wrote:Saw this team the other day.

Man has no clue.

SBW in the centre? Really? He has done nothing, yet he leaves out BOD and Smith.

Thats just one of many problems with this teams, leaving out the best winger in the world Ioane for another, no Alberts, Dagg has done nothing.

I guess it is based solely on the Summer tour games, or Barnes would be nowhere near

The clue is in th the title Wales606

But he does say it is his World XV, which implies that it is the best players, not just the best form.