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Post by azania Fri 08 Apr 2011, 9:05 pm

These guys are the mainstay of boxing. They are there to be the opponents usually for hometown fighters and up and commers. They take their beating, pack their bags and get ready for their next fight.

But have there been any "professional opponents" who have gone on to realise any potential and won titles?

The one who springs to mind was Steve Robinson (did he fight after Naz beat him?).

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Post by HumanWindmill Fri 08 Apr 2011, 9:19 pm

Jimmy Braddock BECAME one after a very promising career seemed to have gone down the tubes.

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Post by azania Fri 08 Apr 2011, 9:45 pm

HumanWindmill wrote:Jimmy Braddock BECAME one after a very promising career seemed to have gone down the tubes.

He was fighting at a time when ....nah. Done that already.

The cinderella man. Good one windy.

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Post by Scottrf Fri 08 Apr 2011, 9:46 pm

azania wrote:The cinderella man. Good one windy.
It was actually Damon Runyon I believe.

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Post by 88Chris05 Fri 08 Apr 2011, 9:52 pm

Saoul Mamby; the absolute definition of a 'gatekeeper' to a division, a solid professional at 135 lb or 140 lb who could be relied upon to give a decent fight and experience to a big name or and up and comer, but could also always be relied upon to lose on points. But eventually became a world champion and made half a dozen or so defences of the WBC Light-Welterweight title, even scoring a win over De Jesus.
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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Fri 08 Apr 2011, 10:07 pm

Emannuel Augustus has been used as a stepping stone for a lot of young American talent and fighters trying to rebuild their career. Never been a world champion but has fought a fair few before they were champs including Floyd Mayweather and David Diaz.
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Post by azania Fri 08 Apr 2011, 10:09 pm

prettyboy1304 wrote:Emannuel Augustus has been used as a stepping stone for a lot of young American talent and fighters trying to rebuild their career. Never been a world champion but has fought a fair few before they were champs including Floyd Mayweather and David Diaz.

Didn't Floyd refer to him as the best fighter he fought?

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Fri 08 Apr 2011, 10:10 pm

azania wrote:
prettyboy1304 wrote:Emannuel Augustus has been used as a stepping stone for a lot of young American talent and fighters trying to rebuild their career. Never been a world champion but has fought a fair few before they were champs including Floyd Mayweather and David Diaz.

Didn't Floyd refer to him as the best fighter he fought?

Think he meant up until the point of the fight.
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Post by Guest Fri 08 Apr 2011, 10:43 pm

prettyboy1304 wrote:Emannuel Augustus has been used as a stepping stone for a lot of young American talent and fighters trying to rebuild their career. Never been a world champion but has fought a fair few before they were champs including Floyd Mayweather and David Diaz.

Isn't that missing the original point of the article? The guy hasn't realised his potential & gone on to win anything, if anything he's gone on to becoming a decent journeyman after a 'better' start to his career.

I was gonna mention Dennis Andries but I think he did better than expected late on in his career rather than starting as a journeyman. Anybody know much of him before he got the breaks?

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Fri 08 Apr 2011, 10:50 pm

sohotnot wrote:
prettyboy1304 wrote:Emannuel Augustus has been used as a stepping stone for a lot of young American talent and fighters trying to rebuild their career. Never been a world champion but has fought a fair few before they were champs including Floyd Mayweather and David Diaz.

Isn't that missing the original point of the article? The guy hasn't realised his potential & gone on to win anything, if anything he's gone on to becoming a decent journeyman after a 'better' start to his career.

I was gonna mention Dennis Andries but I think he did better than expected late on in his career rather than starting as a journeyman. Anybody know much of him before he got the breaks?

He did win an IBA title at Welterweight but I know what you mean. He did achieve his potential that was as good as he could be. He has had a decent career fought a good few top fighters (lost to them all) and earned good money.
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Post by The Galveston Giant Sat 09 Apr 2011, 9:15 pm

Would add Glen Johnson, there was a large part of his career where he was nothing more than an opponent, altough a world class opponent, he definitely changed that, although still goes by the name 'The Road Warrior'.
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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun 10 Apr 2011, 1:00 am

The Galveston Giant wrote:Would add Glen Johnson, there was a large part of his career where he was nothing more than an opponent, altough a world class opponent, he definitely changed that, although still goes by the name 'The Road Warrior'.

Great shout with Johnson looked for a while like he might not be a champ after he lost 2 fights after his defeat to Bhop in 97
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