Another Kidney Rant, He Feckin Deserves it Too
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clivemcl
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Another Kidney Rant, He Feckin Deserves it Too
I'm under no illusions as to why Ireland lost the series. The all blacks are better than us. End of. However the manner in which we did just begs belief. We are fast becoming the most inconsistent team in world rugby, and Kidney's Ireland are easily one of the most painful teams to watch and support I've ever seen. There is a consensus that our problems internationally lie with the provinces. That is not the half of it. Ireland are just horribly stale, and woefully behind tactic wise, playing a drift defense against wales was just daft for example, similarly how they completely failed to adapt to carters restarts over 2 games. We never bring anything new to the table. Kidney refuses to blood new players (in the past- mike ross, sean o brien, and in the present- Ian madigan, gilroy, and for some reason bringing Zebo ahead of them, who is probably the worst of the three). He said in an interview after the game it was a good opportunity for young players to learn. Why did he bring ROG at all then. Our only weapon, and reason for the 3 or 4 great performances in last 4 years (which really is all to do with passion and nothing to do with coaching) stems from our nationality and our ability to up the intensity purely when we're feeling hard done by. We will never progress under kidney, or any Irish coach at this point in my opinion. Kidney has been given immunity by the Irfu so far as he won the slam, that season aside and he's been terrible. If we don't aim for bigger things, we'll never achieve them. What other team comes within a 3 point margin 1 week,and an all time greatest defeat of 60 the next week. We came closer in 2005 with Anthony Horgan on the wing. This isn't disappointing (as it might get Deccie to leave), it's just pathetic and embarrassing.
kunu- Posts : 523
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Re: Another Kidney Rant, He Feckin Deserves it Too
Thing is, Kidney doesn't get to read your rant. The people who get to read it (us) don't deserve it.
Sin é- Posts : 13725
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Re: Another Kidney Rant, He Feckin Deserves it Too
sin é talking about posts people dont want to read? bit rich Seriously though, I know its been talked about to death, I just can't let it go
kunu- Posts : 523
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Re: Another Kidney Rant, He Feckin Deserves it Too
What players and coaches would you like to see brought in?
LeinsterFan4life- Posts : 6179
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Re: Another Kidney Rant, He Feckin Deserves it Too
kunu wrote:sin é talking about posts people dont want to read? bit rich Seriously though, I know its been talked about to death, I just can't let it go
Fair play to you for admitting that this is a 'look at me, look at me thread'.
Sin é- Posts : 13725
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Re: Another Kidney Rant, He Feckin Deserves it Too
kunu, being someone that most peopl dont know and not a frequent poster is not a good place to start.
Never mind the fact there are already other threads discussing this, creating a topic with one massive big chuck of a a paragraph means a lot of people like me will not even bother reading this.
better luck next time, I'm away to one of the existing threads...
Never mind the fact there are already other threads discussing this, creating a topic with one massive big chuck of a a paragraph means a lot of people like me will not even bother reading this.
better luck next time, I'm away to one of the existing threads...
clivemcl- Posts : 4681
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Re: Another Kidney Rant, He Feckin Deserves it Too
Venting anger more than anything. i nearly broke the television this morning, did break the remote, terrible stuff. Leinsterfan - players for the most part dont need changing, its tactics. Ireland just have nothing about them, and havent for the past 2 years at least. Id rather we went back to Eddie, if its possible.
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Re: Another Kidney Rant, He Feckin Deserves it Too
clivemcl wrote:kunu, being someone that most peopl dont know and not a frequent poster is not a good place to start.
Never mind the fact there are already other threads discussing this, creating a topic with one massive big chuck of a a paragraph means a lot of people like me will not even bother reading this.
better luck next time, I'm away to one of the existing threads...
bit elitist , heartwarming. Im not saying it is exiting, because it isnt, but you've just stated that you didnt bother reading the article, then branded it boring. Real sound there
kunu- Posts : 523
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Re: Another Kidney Rant, He Feckin Deserves it Too
60-0 is disgraceful, embarrassing and unacceptable. Even against a great side like New Zealand it's beyond sub-standard.
We've been going backwards for three years. One more year of mostly unbearably poor performances and Kidney's contract ends. Only then can we see if us Kidney-blamers are correct. Or if Sin is right that the players aren't good enough, but inexplicably dominate European domestic rugby.
We've been going backwards for three years. One more year of mostly unbearably poor performances and Kidney's contract ends. Only then can we see if us Kidney-blamers are correct. Or if Sin is right that the players aren't good enough, but inexplicably dominate European domestic rugby.
Feckless Rogue- Posts : 3230
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Re: Another Kidney Rant, He Feckin Deserves it Too
The inconsistency of this side is inexcusable. None of the provinces have anything like this inconsistency and they all are obliged to switch around the personnel! Irish rugby teams were for ten years organized and consistent. This is an absolute disaster. I have never seen Ireland not score a point. This is not good enough. I would love it if we could sack half the players and the coaches. But my head tells me we have not much better options in either. God this is depressing.
Intotouch- Posts : 653
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Re: Another Kidney Rant, He Feckin Deserves it Too
A coaching change can bring a new spark and sounds like the best thing for Ireland. Hope you guys get what you're looking for. Just out of curiosity, is there a coach out there that you guys would really like to see in the role?
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Re: Another Kidney Rant, He Feckin Deserves it Too
Pat Lam and Martin Johnson are looking for the jobs!
anotherworldofpain- Posts : 2803
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Re: Another Kidney Rant, He Feckin Deserves it Too
EBOP wrote:A coaching change can bring a new spark and sounds like the best thing for Ireland. Hope you guys get what you're looking for. Just out of curiosity, is there a coach out there that you guys would really like to see in the role?
Joe Schmidt or Mike Ruddock are the two realistic options.
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