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Post by anotherworldofpain Sun 08 Jul 2012, 11:26 am

Is no secret that in the home nations the weather is more raining than the environment in part of Australia and South Africa. New Zealand climate is very similar one to England but slightly close to the equator. But main difference is big rugby centers of Auckland, Christchurch and Waikato all volcanic geology to the surface and means the rain impact the surface different naturally because is more drainage casuing by the pumice layer to the surface.

Some times is an old north/south cliche division about particular English club rugby about rolling in the mud and making scrums for 80 minutes and SANZAR is a kind of basketball and not focus on grinding defense and set piece.

Another example might be how the high altitude of places in SA affect the style by encourage kicking because just you can kick so much far and it make a good sense.

My point here is not to starting off another silly fight about NH v SH style or do SA kick to much. So hold your horse if you about to take a swipe at me. But here if we assuming that there is some difference in style and is caused by the environment which might seem fair because certain is true Australia score my tries than Scotland for example but not as good in the scrum as any home nation team...so let make the axiom to this discussion that is some part at least affect the game plan and combinators select by the teams.

So my first riddle is: as winter become drier and warmer in the NH and summer become wetter and longer and in the SH climate become less stability will there be a change to the cliche?

Second point is as the weather predictor become more accurate long range by the new satellite system and modelling technology and environment science and the rugby become more professional then would the long range predictor play a role in choose the wider combinator? For example if the RFU know that is prediction wet rainy winter 2015 then will they building the more set piece and kicking orientation for EPS? but if the predictor is drought then might be select the more expansive and mobile group?

Final riddle: will meteorologist and geologist ever have the part in back room planning teams in rugby? like they do in America's cup, formula one and american football?

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Post by sugarNspikes Sun 08 Jul 2012, 11:39 am

Fair play this, made me laugh Laugh

NZ are already planning a side that can play in Ice Age conditions while the French will probably opt to hibernate though it Wink

Our local weather forecasters can't predict what it's going to be like after lunch.

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Post by aucklandlaurie Sun 08 Jul 2012, 11:43 am


What do the geologists do in the back room of Americas Cup?

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Post by anotherworldofpain Sun 08 Jul 2012, 11:48 am

aucklandlaurie wrote:
What do the geologists do in the back room of Americas Cup?

In big money professional sport always comes a lot of tangentals that you might not expecting. So for example:

http://asianconservatives.com/government/its-your-money-u-s-geological-survey-to-study-birds-to-keep-san-franciscos-americas-cup-afloat/

"In order to keep America’s Cup afloat, the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) on behalf of the City of San Francisco will spend $150,000 to study whether racing boats and their towering sails, will scare birdies on the bay."

Or for example more serious note, then the Geologists involvement quite a lot in the LV cup in Venice in make sure is safety and not impacting.

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Post by aucklandlaurie Sun 08 Jul 2012, 11:57 am


So does Dean Barker and Russel Coutts have a geologist so that they get the best rocks, and in the race they can throw them at the other boat?

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Post by anotherworldofpain Sun 08 Jul 2012, 1:13 pm

To be fair my mind is Russel Coutts make such a good deal he gets his throwing rocks from De Beers.

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Post by anotherworldofpain Wed 11 Jul 2012, 10:08 am

I noticed 3 meteorologists join Team GB this morning. So I waiting patient for the apology about the ridicule.

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Post by caoimhincentre Wed 11 Jul 2012, 10:18 am

Think move to the desert planet of tattoine we should. wise this would be. everyone playing in the same conditions we would have

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Post by tigertattie Wed 11 Jul 2012, 10:34 am

AWOP, did you swallow a thesaurus?

Using big words in a paragraph of broken English is really quite odd!

In terms of the weather - If you think Scotland has been getting drier winters recently, you've obviously not been to Scotland in the winter!

Also, I hardly think weather forcasters are really needed for rugby. If the met office get the weather right in this country, it is known as a lucky guess!

We'd be better off hiring astrologists instead!
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Post by anotherworldofpain Wed 11 Jul 2012, 10:47 am

caoimhincentre wrote:Think move to the desert planet of tattoine we should. wise this would be. everyone playing in the same conditions we would have

...playing in the same conditions, would everyone be.

Stop getting Yoda wrong! mad

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Post by disneychilly Wed 11 Jul 2012, 10:47 am

To be honest the big words are the easy part when speaking other languages as a lot of them have the same specialised words. Syntax and congugations are much more difficult.

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Post by anotherworldofpain Wed 11 Jul 2012, 10:49 am

tigertattie wrote:AWOP, did you swallow a thesaurus?

Using big words in a paragraph of broken English is really quite odd!

Everyone saying this but let me tell you two things that are true:

(a) learn the words is easy. Longer words easier to learn and remember because they more distinct. Most difficult to get right is stupid "in,at,to,the,a,are,they,them,they're,isn't,aren't" because in my mind they not necessary at all if the other words construct properly!!!! like a NORMAL languages.
(b) learn the grammar is hardest.



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Post by caoimhincentre Wed 11 Jul 2012, 10:50 am

anotherworldofpain wrote:
caoimhincentre wrote:Think move to the desert planet of tattoine we should. wise this would be. everyone playing in the same conditions we would have

...playing in the same conditions, would everyone be.

Stop getting Yoda wrong! mad

OK got me.

Is it not the different conditions and different types of styles that makes it such an exciting sport.

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Post by anotherworldofpain Wed 11 Jul 2012, 10:51 am

that it be! king

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Post by Guest Wed 11 Jul 2012, 11:01 am

Team geologist would take core samples from the pitch, could happen. Decide sprig length, inner shoe support, knee strapping, etc. Small margins, but who'd have thought that we'd have computer software that figures out defenses for us.

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Wed 11 Jul 2012, 11:22 am

anotherworldofpain wrote:Is no secret that in the home nations the weather is more raining than the environment in part of Australia and South Africa. New Zealand climate is very similar one to England but slightly close to the equator. But main difference is big rugby centers of Auckland, Christchurch and Waikato all volcanic geology to the surface and means the rain impact the surface different naturally because is more drainage casuing by the pumice layer to the surface.

Some times is an old north/south cliche division about particular English club rugby about rolling in the mud and making scrums for 80 minutes and SANZAR is a kind of basketball and not focus on grinding defense and set piece.

Another example might be how the high altitude of places in SA affect the style by encourage kicking because just you can kick so much far and it make a good sense.

My point here is not to starting off another silly fight about NH v SH style or do SA kick to much. So hold your horse if you about to take a swipe at me. But here if we assuming that there is some difference in style and is caused by the environment which might seem fair because certain is true Australia score my tries than Scotland for example but not as good in the scrum as any home nation team...so let make the axiom to this discussion that is some part at least affect the game plan and combinators select by the teams.

So my first riddle is: as winter become drier and warmer in the NH and summer become wetter and longer and in the SH climate become less stability will there be a change to the cliche?

Second point is as the weather predictor become more accurate long range by the new satellite system and modelling technology and environment science and the rugby become more professional then would the long range predictor play a role in choose the wider combinator? For example if the RFU know that is prediction wet rainy winter 2015 then will they building the more set piece and kicking orientation for EPS? but if the predictor is drought then might be select the more expansive and mobile group?

Final riddle: will meteorologist and geologist ever have the part in back room planning teams in rugby? like they do in America's cup, formula one and american football?
No, you hold my horse while I take a swipe at you! boxing

It is an interesting point that you raise, and I suppose there will always be some sense of teams being more used to playing in certain conditions, but I think more of it is made than is actually true. The best teams will simply adapt their game to the conditions and still win, simple as. OK

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